Will Hulk be leaping and running fast in the movie?

[spideyboy_1111]

so a really long run up than a take off...stop and start again or land running and repeat?

no hops

right, hes not a friggin bunny rabbit... lol, just looks wierd

 

[Sava]

love that 10min scene, just beautiful to watch.

 

[November Rain]

I'm almost certain the hulk has been shown 'Bunnying' in the comics though with those continous semi circular smoke trails behind him...

alright fair enough..

I will say about the second jump, what for me makes it special is that he doesn't intend to get as much air time as he does, realises he's over done it, gets a lil worried, tries to slow down (but obviously he can't) flaps a bit then makes somewhat of a crash landing in the sand. it's a great representation of experimenting with one's limits on their abilities.

I managed to get all of that without the need for extended dialogue, growling or a musical accompany which i think is truelly amazing.

Considering you never see the creature test any his powers it was nice for something like this to be utilised to counter the scene normally depicted in origin films of characters getting a feel for their abilities.

i.e.

daredevil, fantastic four, superman returns, batman begins, spiderman, ghost rider and certain characters within the x-men movies as well...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

ill agree with you on the 2nd one...

funny thing is.. the "bunny jumps" it's seriously like a cartoon.. he falls down as fast as he goes up... its wierd.. you cant fall faster everything falls at the same speed.. lol i was like... what?

 

[November Rain]

well of course, that isn't taking into consideration the aerial resistance.

outside of a vacuum, you do find there is some general variation in falling speed of objects. you can test this by dropping a computer monitor and also a feather at teh same time off the top of a building and see which one lands first.

a creature hulk size would be susceptible to a considerable amount of air resistance or lack of it depending on his trajectory and also his form through the air.

as for if you are wondering on the general speed of his descent, that could perhaps be more of an editing thing in order to get that slot to be a certain time length or perhaps to get it to fit with the music.

how long into that segment are you talking about.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

well of course, that isn't taking into consideration the aerial resistance.

outside of a vacuum, you do find there is some general variation in falling speed of objects. you can test this by dropping a computer monitor and also a feather at teh same time off the top of a building and see which one lands first.

a creature hulk size would be susceptible to a considerable amount of air resistance or lack of it depending on his trajectory and also his form through the air.

as for if you are wondering on the general speed of his descent, that could perhaps be more of an editing thing in order to get that slot to be a certain time length or perhaps to get it to fit with the music.

how long into that segment are you talking about.

dude a feather is not even close to a comparison to hulk... lol... you wouldnt even really notice much of a difference in speed if you dropped a human and hulk at the same time...

i just want hulks jumps to remain like the first one did... no shots of him staying in the air.. or close ups while hes in the air... just up he goes.. next scene, lands (thats most effective). They should also utilize his running more, i think nothing is more threatening then a pissed off hulk running towards something, picking up anger and speed as he goes.. never stopping till he smashes his goal.. that is a threat, not a hopping hulk to get where he wants

 

[Riddick2009]

If Hulk doesn't run fast or leap then this is going to be like the damn tv show, boring Hulk. I hope to god he leaps!

 

[antsiou]

dude a feather is not even close to a comparison to hulk... lol... you wouldnt even really notice much of a difference in speed if you dropped a human and hulk at the same time...

i just want hulks jumps to remain like the first one did... no shots of him staying in the air.. or close ups while hes in the air... just up he goes.. next scene, lands (thats most effective). They should also utilize his running more, i think nothing is more threatening then a pissed off hulk running towards something, picking up anger and speed as he goes.. never stopping till he smashes his goal.. that is a threat, not a hopping hulk to get where he wants

I understand your point but would be of the same views as November Rain

I will say about the second jump, what for me makes it special is that he doesn't intend to get as much air time as he does, realises he's over done it, gets a lil worried, tries to slow down (but obviously he can't) flaps a bit then makes somewhat of a crash landing in the sand. it's a great representation of experimenting with one's limits on their abilities.

we have to remember that Hulk's intellect is like a young kid, everything is new to him, especially jumping (almost flying)
I think that if it made you feel ankward, it a great point, cause you shoul consider Hulk as a Kid, not as a grown up who knows what is he's doing...
Hulk is still ankward with his own power, ability to jump, run, etc....
and as a child, he does enjoy flying...
I think this scene was both story/character wise spot on, and simply beautiful to watch... (Hulk he's all rage and anger we know that, but he's a child, and even the angriest child gets happy when he experience something nice for the first time...
He's just been shot at, capture in foam, torture, etc etc, and for 10 sec, he's flying free.... thus happy face
and it's exactly the same feeling he has a tad later when he watches himself in the water........ period
bang, helicopters attacks...
He's all the more angry that he wants to be left alone (or be with Betty only), and the same "puny humans" that have been trying to hurt so far, are still there, trying to hurt him even more and ruining a bit of peacefulness...

And for the records, he's been "Bunny Jumping" more than once in the comic..
I remember in the Professor incarnation, he would have evacuated on of the Pantheon's guy (don't remember which one) from the field up to the pantheon's base in the Mount....

and more of that i'm sure....

 

[Casius--J]

I thought the running was fine, if he can jump that high then he should be able to run very fast too.

I cant see them leaving that out in the new film, wouldnt make sense imo.

 

[November Rain]

I think spiderboy likes the leaps but first of all doesn't like the height but i tried to explained that i don't think the hulk can actually jump as high as a cloud from ground level but because he was in a mountanous area it was possible (if only for a single shot)

but he doesn't like the camera being up close with the hulk during his hang time because it makes him look like he is flying.

Personally i think all superheroes that get sufficient air time via flight, jumping, falling, gliding or webslinging should get some facial hang time because that movement is unique to them and we need to see it through their eyes. The shot itself wasn't long but it was important. It wasn't over emphasised in the first film nor do i think it should be in the next, only merely highlighted just like ang did.

It is certainly one of the more memorable hulk shots, especially considering there was no violence involved.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I think spiderboy likes the leaps but first of all doesn't like the height but i tried to explained that i don't think the hulk can actually jump as high as a cloud from ground level but because he was in a mountanous area it was possible (if only for a single shot)

but he doesn't like the camera being up close with the hulk during his hang time because it makes him look like he is flying.

Personally i think all superheroes that get sufficient air time via flight, jumping, falling, gliding or webslinging should get some facial hang time because that movement is unique to them and we need to see it through their eyes. The shot itself wasn't long but it was important. It wasn't over emphasised in the first film nor do i think it should be in the next, only merely highlighted just like ang did.

It is certainly one of the more memorable hulk shots, especially considering there was no violence involved.

Actually in the comics Hulk jumped into orbit once and has coverred over a thousand miles in a leap. So really in the movie they played it quite modestly.

I think it is necessary for him to be jumping as that is one of the most familar parts of the comic book character.

 

[November Rain]

have you noticed any of this bunny hopping phenomenon in the comics, you're probably one of the more resourceful people who would know.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

have you noticed any of this bunny hopping phenomenon in the comics, you're probably one of the more resourceful people who would know.

I thought his jumping scene from clifftop to clifftop was fine as that is really how I saw him jump in the comics, but other like CJ and X would know more as they probably have read more comics then I.

 

[Sava]

bunny hopping? you guys mean when he's jumping short distances or that little hop he did before he actually did his very first leap after getting out of the base?

 

[onticdeus]

Yea, i'm one for hulks last movie abilities in regards to running and jumping. WAY more interesting. although... the movie itself didn't intigrate it into the plot quite as creatively as i was anticipating, it was really redundant. i would hope they keep the jumping, and running, but use the running in moderation, as jumping is the hulks major transport mode.

 

[November Rain]

bunny hopping? you guys mean when he's jumping short distances or that little hop he did before he actually did his very first leap after getting out of the base?

after talking with the president, he does multiple long distance leaps without any intermedial running.

all two footed jumps, or hops.


not the couple of lil pre jumps he does just after sprinting.

 

[Sava]

after talking with the president, he does multiple long distance leaps without any intermedial running.

all two footed jumps, or hops.


not the couple of lil pre jumps he does just after sprinting.

so what was wrong with that?... he jumped short distance and he nearly fell when he started to run the first time, which was what the hops were for, gaining speed without tripping over himself.

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

Spideyboy_1111, I've COMPLETELY agreed with everything you're saying. November Rain, a lot of what you're saying also seems to make sense... but the bottom line for me is...

It. Just. Doesn't. Look. Real.

Hulk may be able to jump from planet to planet or between galaxies and universes, for all I care -- IN THE COMICS. But until the movie producers can actually make it believable, Hulk jumping those ridiculous distances in a cineplex serves one purpose and one purpose only - to make people LAUGH.

Riddick2009, can you not see what I'm saying? It's the whole believability factor, as characterized on the big screen. I have no problem believing that gamma radiation can somehow transform a man into the Hulk. I have no problem believing the Hulk can crush things, smash things, regenerate flesh instantly, turn green, turn GRAY, etc. All of those things are within the realm of believability because we SEE them - at least in part - in nature already!! An ant is able to carry seemingly LIMITLESS times its own body weight, so the idea that a green man essentially on steroids can do the same isn't so much a stretch to me. Do you see what I'm getting at? It's that when he jumped in the first movie, it looked completely SILLY because there's no foundation for it outside of the comics. I said it once before, but if he had legs like a grasshopper, I would believe it. But short, stalky legs? No way, not even with multiple doses of gamma radiation, whatever the heck THAT means. I would be more likely to believe that MR. FANTASTIC could jump the way that Hulk did.

i just want hulks jumps to remain like the first one did... no shots of him staying in the air.. or close ups while hes in the air... just up he goes.. next scene, lands (thats most effective). They should also utilize his running more, i think nothing is more threatening then a pissed off hulk running towards something, picking up anger and speed as he goes.. never stopping till he smashes his goal.. that is a threat, not a hopping hulk to get where he wants

Agreed on the first point. On the second, I think we need more of the desert scenes when he does damage to the tanks. Those, to me, were spot-on PERFECT in capturing the essence of Hulk. He ran - at a believable speed - and had just the right grimmace on his face. I get chills every time I watch the part when he approaches the guys in the tank, handling the broken off cannon like a baseball bat. Conversely, I NEVER get chills when I see him jumping around. That does absolutely nothing for me.

I thought the running was fine, if he can jump that high then he should be able to run very fast too.

Yeah, well, when you START with the premise that he CAN jump that high, naturally, you're going to end up seeing nothing wrong with him running that fast. I'm pointing out the fallacy in your logic, but honestly, both the running and jumping in the first film were probably done poorly and, of the two, I'd have to say the jumping was indeed worse.

Truly, I have no problem with him jumping or running. It's just the recreation of it on the screen I don't like. A Hulk who's more "grounded" does infinitely more for me than a Hulk who floats across the skyline to the tune of Enya. Again, give him short bursts, from one building to another with low/even trajectory... but not this floating crap for miles and miles. The helicopters catch up with him anyway, right? What's the point?!

Some of you have convinced me the jumping is more integral to the Hulk than I was previously willing to admit, but antsiou's post from 4:34 a.m. today shows that if it's truly integral, then it's only integral to "the less intelligent incarnations of the Hulk." So I still think we can have an all-powerful Hulk who dazzles us just the same as an ever-leaping Hulk; it's just that many of you are going to go into TIH with a defeatist attitude, which can only hurt the film.

 

[November Rain]

so what was wrong with that?... he jumped short distance and he nearly fell when he started to run the first time, which was what the hops were for, gaining speed without tripping over himself.

I don't have a problem with it personally. I'm with you on this one...

 

[Sava]

I don't have a problem with it personally. I'm with you on this one...

its like you said earlier, there is no way to please Hulk fans, its not thier fault, there are too many different versions of Hulk IMO.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

If you ever seen him in the comics, his jumps tend to be just as they did it in the movies (after the conversation with the President).

 

[Bannerless Hulk]

its like you said earlier, there is no way to please Hulk fans, its not thier fault, there are too many different versions of Hulk IMO.

That would explain it if the issue were the comics (i.e., versions of the Hulk). But I, for one, am hardly familiar with individual issues, versions, etc., so whoosh! out the window that argument goes...

The issue is what makes SENSE, and apparently, some of you have your heads so utterly buried in the comics that you can't see anything else. Hulk MUST jump from plateau to plateau or your entire movie-watching experience is ruined. Sad. For your sake, I hope to heck that Hulk leaps into a low-earth orbit in TIH. It's pretty clear you're going to be seeking counseling afterwards, if he doesn't.

 

[November Rain]

I'm fine with a stagnant hulk that does his destruction on location until it's all settled....

but if the dude has to move, then he needs to be jumping, it's just the way he moves large distances.

I don't think people want to stop him jumping, people are merely making insight into firstly the height and the style of these jumps as well as the way they are filmed.

unfortunately here, clarity is not everyone's strong point and people often get sidetracked down some other route or discussion point.

How we got on to jumping in a running thread, i will never know...unless i look back over the last three pages but i'm lazy...

 

[thegameq]

Ugh! Talk about taking the J out of Joy!

Its a comicbook movie, i.e., a fantasy film! Damn! Some people just don't get it. It's fantasy plain and simple.

Stop overthinking it.

 

[November Rain]

but we get joy taking the joy out?

that's why hypsters do what they do...