Okay, so, since no one is willing to actually follow my train my thought as expressed in other posts I've made, I'll quote myself:
Ha, okay, so I'm willing to accept some other things in other movies that I normally do not question. I guess no special effect just appears so blatantly obviously artificial as Hulk's jumping, as portrayed in the first movie, to me. I LIKE the fact that he can jump great distances, but you know, for the average human, even 30+ feet would be better than most people. Give Hulk, say, a 100-foot arc and I think it still conveys his incredible strength, while maintaining an aura of believability. I want him to do things that we never see, yes - I don't wish to alienate Hulk fans by pushing for TIH producers to dial down on his abilities - but I want to think that such an event could actually happen, too. Essentially, just make it look better. That's my battle cry. Shorter jumps, rather bursts, with less "flying." And truly, I was able to enjoy the movie, regardless.
And I appeal to this newbie also:
Obviously most of you guys are massive comic book Hulk fans which is why the leaping and running seemed great to you. However, I think most ordinary people were watching the leaping and running, and were thinking 'why is he able to jump MILES?' It really does need to be toned down for the movie. I know its a comic book movie but those jumps were stupid.
^I would bold ALL of that.
The fact is I don't think the Hulk was """"""really""""""" """""""flying""""""". It was THE WAY IT WAS SHOWN THAT I DIDN'T LIKE. Not the jumping itself. Not the desert scenes altogether. Just the ridiculous way he bounds from plateau to plateau, springing from the ground as a flea does with minimal impact/affect to his surroundings. And the ESSENCE of it, with the wind blowing in his face, was that he was "flying" - NOT THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY FLYING.
I mean, did they really need to show us all of it? What if Peter Jackson had shown us how Kong gets from the island to America? It's the same principle. You don't show us
everything and good directors KNOW THIS(!). You give us the goods in
moderation and leave things to our imagination, as necessary. Tracing the Hulk's path across the radar/map or implying the "angry man" is moving at an incredible rate (while not showing it) would have been enough. Showing us everything, I thought, only contributed to the element of surprise/mystery about the Hulk being removed in wholesale. I mean, there we were... soaring alongside the Hulk's face in mid-air. I suppose if they were somehow able to show us just that one scene, it would've been cool, but instead they made it (his ability to travel via jumping) a focal point of the movie and admit it, it was dumb. Only fanboy purists thought it was cool. Every wife and every girlfriend was giggling or, worse yet, sleeping, and average Joe's were bored out of their wits.
Beyond that, the mechanics or the physics involving Hulk's jumps personally didn't jive for me. Carrrnuttt's point was that if Hulk's legs can support a mountain, then he should have no problem making jumps as they appeared in the movie. But all of us, AD included, seemed to agree that the ground should have - at the very least - suffered greater impact (both upon jumping and landing) and thus, I thought this freaking topic was resolved(!).
Sava, even
you have said in other threads you thought Ang Lee had the perfect idea for the movie, but "didn't do it right." Are you suggesting that he somehow spot-on nailed the jumping aspect of Hulk in light of getting all/most of the rest of the movie wrong? Could it be that Ang - who confessed at the outset that he wasn't the right man for the job (source: hearsay on this forum) - didn't give us the best or even
one of the best characterizations of the Hulk that could've been brought to bear?
Don't read into this too much: I loved the movie because I love the Hulk and I love Ang's effort, but damn... SOME things could've been done better. And with all of the aftermath... the overall poor box office performance ($132M revenue vs. $137M prod budget), the near-record 70% second-weekend dropoff, and today, people clamoring for a reboot - for TIH to distance itself as FAR away as possible from the first movie... are my points all that
astounding? I mean, is it not the case that everyone we talk to outside of these forums CRINGE when they think of the first Hulk? If the jumping was so spot-on perfect, it only stands to reason that they would, at the very least, give the jumping honorable mention, right? NO, THEY WOULDN'T and this is what so many fanboys seem to overlook. NO ONE remembers how superior the jumping was as you all do.
About the score, thats fine by me, you didnt like it, i loved it. No one wants you to roll over ... i thought we were having an arguement.
The score... loved the opening credits, but hated how it transitioned to the laboratory. The piano, or whatever it was, was way overbearing. Also, actually, loved the Enya-esque backdrop when the helicopters are transporting Banner across the desert... but it eventually became overkill. Too much philosopher Hulk and the exotic music only reinforced it.
I suppose if we keep this up long enough, we'll actually get you to talk about the movie instead of my post count. But then...if we talk about it long enough, my post count will be higher and then I'll have the "right" to talk about it. (Internet forum "decorum" is so bizarre.)
Yes, you finally weakened me. lol Your post count is fine. I just don't like it when people think they're the new sheriff in town. Even less do I enjoy repeating myself and, let's face it, my hands were tied. You opened a can of worms and the rest was history.
If it needs to be more obvious he was leaping well that's something to talk about. But the Hulk leaps, Spidey swings, Superman flies. That's just the way it is. The TV show got it wrong. The Hulk is not a jogger.
But the TV show remains one of the best things going for the new movie, due to its popularity and the fact the TIH script has taken to a liking for the show's feel. You can say the show got it wrong, but the fact is Marvel wouldn't screw this up. They wouldn't chance a reboot that's geared toward the TV show if they didn't already know that a few million folks grew up loving the show. I myself, truly, do not care how it's done as long as it looks good... but something tells me we won't be seeing the Hulk go into a low-earth orbit again.
. Show me a scene when he loooks like he's flying, he's either going up or falling down. Never did he stay up in the air like he was flying. 
(Internet forum "decorum" is so bizarre.)
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