Naite22
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sure pal.... I'm sure YOU know what's epic and not.. based on your previous posts.Gonking said:Your definition of "epic" is pure crap.

sure pal.... I'm sure YOU know what's epic and not.. based on your previous posts.Gonking said:Your definition of "epic" is pure crap.
Naite22 said:Ones again, it has nothing to do with the fact that you guys find the film boring.. the apearence and presents of superman is EPIC...
You can't say that at all about spider-man
... although I have no doubt that you have some explonation to proof me wrong... so please do so...
Just know that if you answer is simply, SR is a piece of crap, all respect from my side is lost.
But I guess you couldn't care less right... but still you wouldn't have given me an answer that makes sense!
Hafssól said:In my opinion box office numbers have nothing to do with "Epic-ness" of movies.
Hafssól said:In my opinion box office numbers have nothing to do with "Epic-ness" of movies.
Naite22 said:...I think that if I had to choose a superhero franchise I love more then the others, in the end, I believe I'd choose the spider-man franchise. No other superhero franchise has the action quite like spider-man. No other superhero movie's has that brilliant charm and humor.
However, I think Batman Begins & Superman Returns are true superhero epics, while (forgive me) I don't think spidey 1 nor 2 has that epic feel... They're stylish and damn near perfect, but epic??? I dont think so... Again, I would like to stress the action in spider-man 2. That train battle is the most beautiful and most badass mindblowing action sequence ever caught on film! Both spidey flicks have great story's, a great cast, and especially a great director! Everything is beautiful in the spider-man family... So WHY aren't the films epic's, like Superman and Batman Begins???
...And do you think Spidey 3 will be an epic. If so, why?
Naite22 said:...I think that if I had to choose a superhero franchise I love more then the others, in the end, I believe I'd choose the spider-man franchise. No other superhero franchise has the action quite like spider-man. No other superhero movie's has that brilliant charm and humor.
However, I think Batman Begins & Superman Returns are true superhero epics, while (forgive me) I don't think spidey 1 nor 2 has that epic feel... They're stylish and damn near perfect, but epic??? I dont think so... Again, I would like to stress the action in spider-man 2. That train battle is the most beautiful and most badass mindblowing action sequence ever caught on film! Both spidey flicks have great story's, a great cast, and especially a great director! Everything is beautiful in the spider-man family... So WHY aren't the films epic's, like Superman and Batman Begins???
...And do you think Spidey 3 will be an epic. If so, why?
If Superman Returns is what you call EPIC, then I hope to hell Spider-Man 3 isn't. I know what epic is, that's why I named LOTR as an epic. If you can watch Star Wars or LOTR and put SR and BB in the same frame of scope, good for you. I on the other hand see them as small movies when comparing them.Naite22 said:UNbeliveable!.... Lord of the rings is epic, YES... But so is superman returns!!!... I have no doubt that spider-man 3 will have a much bigger impact on the public... but I seriously doubt that it'll be half as epic as superman returns.. anyone who can't see that SR is an epic (despite of people saying it's borring and what ever) doesn't know what epic is... I'm no the one who has a small view of what's epic here.
Doc Ock said:Ummmm, not to me it's not. You may find it epic, but I certainly don't. And clearly alot of other people don't find it epic either. Not everyone creams their pants when they see a guy in blue tights and a red cape come on screen.
Aha... The only thing that spider-man doesn't have in what you mentioned above, is the freaken cape!... I love spider-man, and as I mentioned in the first post, The spider-man movie's are my favorite. Yet, I STILL believe that SR is more of an epic then spidey will ever be. That's not saying that the film is better then the spidey flicks, at all. This just IS... I saw Spidey 2 again last night and it's so stylish all the way... But sometimes the movie breaks and is the main reason for it not to get that epic feel... Especially J.Jonah is waaaaay too funny for the movie's own good. He comes in and knocks the film right back into the cartoon world, ones again; and that's irritating.
SR is not an epic though. it did not have huge action scenes. SR sucked.Naite22 said:Well, good to see that my thread can bring out posts from you guys... anyway, I STILL think that SR is an epic, while I couldn't say that exact thing about spidey, which I love just the same... there's just something over SR, I dont know what it is.
For some maybe.... But sorry to tell ya... HUGE action sequences is not what makes a film epic... it can help.. but if that's all you got, then you have nothing... Look at Spidey 2.. it's the most mindblowing action sequences ever.. but STILL it doesn't earn that epic feel... you need more.spidermanhero12 said:SR is not an epic though. it did not have huge action scenes. SR sucked.
Naite22 said:Aha... The only thing that spider-man doesn't have in what you mentioned above, is the freaken cape!
Especially J.Jonah is waaaaay too funny for the movie's own good. He comes in and knocks the film right back into the cartoon world, ones again; and that's sad.
SR sucked in every area possible. the spider-man movies are great even if they were not epic.Naite22 said:For some maybe.... But sorry to tell ya... HUGE action sequences is not what makes a film epic.
he is defenitley ripped straight from the comic book.Doc Ock said:Thank god for that! And Spidey also has a cool mask, you know, something that genuinely hides a secret identity. Not a pair of freakin' glasses LOL!
I find your logic really, really funny.
You claim Jonah Jameson makes the movie cartoony, but you find SR epic with characters like Parker Posey's Kitty Kowolski hamming it up to the campiest levels with Lex Luthor, the main villain of the movie, with stupid stuff like Lex Luthor and her stuck on an island thinking about eating her dogThey were about as menacing as Butters' Professor Chaos in South Park.
Or how about super kid kicking ass by taking out thugs with a piano.
Oh wow, that is so EPIC!!! These scenes slay anything with Jonah Jameson on screen...............NOT!!!
Jonah Jameson is exactly like he is in the comics. Ripped straight from the comic book page onto the screen. Too cartoony?? Not on your life. If Jonah Jameson is too cartoony, then SR is the movie equivalent of My Little Pony or the Care Bears.
I agree.. spider-man 1 and 2 are absolutely great YET not epic... true... but SR did not suck in every area possible.. and you can keep saying that, but it's not true. Surely there should've been many things Singer should have done differently, but the movie did NOT suck at all. Fantastic-4, DareDevil, HULK.. they SUCKED!spidermanhero12 said:SR sucked in every area possible. the spider-man moviea are great even if they were not epic.
i never said that the spider-man movies were not epic. they really are epic. remember the spider-man2 train sequence? that was an epic scene. both movies preety much had an epic feel to them.Naite22 said:I agree.. spider-man 1 and 2 are absolutely great YET not epic... true... but SR did not suck in every area possible.. and you can keep saying that, but it's not true. Surely there should've been many things Singer should have done differently, but the movie did NOT suck at all. Fantastic-4, DareDevil, HULK.. they SUCKED!
Doc Ock said:Thank god for that! And Spidey also has a cool mask, you know, something that genuinely hides a secret identity. Not a pair of freakin' glasses LOL!
Unbelievable that you people still believe that the glasses is the only thing that hides his identity.. It's Clark's whole personality (the way he sees humans) that draws away the attention of people connecting him with superman! They look at Clark and say "no way, you can't fake that! This could never be superman!"
I find your logic really, really funny.
You claim Jonah Jameson makes the movie cartoony, but you find SR epic with characters like Parker Posey's Kitty Kowolski hamming it up to the campiest levels with Lex Luthor, the main villain of the movie, with stupid stuff like Lex Luthor and her stuck on an island thinking about eating her dogThey were about as menacing as Butters' Professor Chaos in South Park.
Or how about super kid kicking ass by taking out thugs with a piano.
Oh wow, that is so EPIC!!! These scenes slay anything with Jonah Jameson on screen...............NOT!!!
Jonah Jameson is exactly like he is in the comics. Ripped straight from the comic book page onto the screen. Too cartoony?? Not on your life. If Jonah Jameson is too cartoony, then SR is the movie equivalent of My Little Pony or the Care Bears.
actually spider-man preety much does have epicness in it.Naite22 said:I'm glad that you find my logic funny... But that's my point.. J. Jonah is too cartoonish... Some times you need to alter those things to make it fit better cinematickly...
I can't believe that so many have this crazy idea that Jason in SR will team up for the sequel in a freaken suit and fight crimes along his father.. that's not what it's about at all!
The ellements in SR is what makes the film epic... Spider-Man just doesn't have them, that's all.