The Dark Knight Rises Will we ever get the best of both worlds?

[Anita18]

I never said I wanted fantasy. I just want to walk out of a Batman movie without feeling asthough I have just been punched in the stomach.

A different director should do the trick. I often come out of Nolan films feeling as if I've been punched in the stomach. It's his thing, more often than not.

But Nolan should finish his story first.

 

[Sawyer]

A different director should do the trick. I often come out of Nolan films feeling as if I've been punched in the stomach. It's his thing, more often than not.

But Nolan should finish his story first.

I'm sure that Nolan will do a great job on the third movie, as he has on the past two. Hopefully, its a bit more uplifting than depressing.

 

[Anita18]

I'm sure that Nolan will do a great job on the third movie, as he has on the past two. Hopefully, its a bit more uplifting than depressing.

It's NOLAN we're talking about. TDK wasn't as depressing as Memento or The Prestige.

 

[[A]]

Okay, I should probably start off by saying that I am in no way insulting The Dark Knight. Quite the contrary, I loved that film to death, and it is probably on my top movies of all time. However, TDK is about as fun as getting a sledge hammer to the gut. As a movie, it was fun to see that someone could put a great Batman story on film, but in the actual movie, there was little to no fun.

I never felt anything like a sledge hammer to the gut while watching TDK, seriously.

 

[Sentinel X]

I thought the movie was really fun. Sure, its dark but I had a great time at the theater especially whenever the Joker came on.

 

[[A]]

I thought the movie was really fun. Sure, its dark but I had a great time at the theater especially whenever the Joker came on.

Yeah, me too

 

[Sawyer]

It's NOLAN we're talking about. TDK wasn't as depressing as Memento or The Prestige.

Good point, although I didnt find The Prestige all that depressing.
But come on, the third one (if Nolan decides to do a third) would likely be Nolan's last. I would hope that the third might have something at least slightly resembling a happy ending.

I never felt anything like a sledge hammer to the gut while watching TDK, seriously.

I was exaggerating... I do that from time to time.

 

[[A]]

I was exaggerating... I do that from time to time.

I know, I know; that's why I use the italic format. I know what you meant and I also answered to that.. thought, if you will.

 

[MrWayne]

i think this is just anouther case of us fanboys and girls (sorry Anita, cant forget ya) wanting exactly wat we see on comic book pages to jump on to the reality of big screen.. we wanted a more serious, better looking, more realistic true to comic Batman.. and we got Nolans interpretation.. who imo has done a GREAT Fk'n JOB so far..yet we still wish that this or we wish that that.. lmao are we ever happy??? im sure one day someone will have that same feeling in mind and will want to translate the comics and or BTAS exactly as is to big screen.. im sure...
but i say if you want something done rite do it yaself... oh yea sorry i side tracked from topic discussion for a moment..
Yes the movie was quite fun.. saw it for the......... ummm 5th time this weekend so far.. Ahhhh IMAX...still fun!

 

[Anita18]

Good point, although I didnt find The Prestige all that depressing.

Really? It's difficult for me to watch, actually, since both of the protagonists just want to destroy each other the entire time.

 

[[A]]

Really? It's difficult for me to watch, actually, since both of the protagonists just want to destroy each other the entire time.

It is a sad film, in a way. You gotta be feel bad for Fallon. Or Sarah.

 

[Two-Face=Badass]

I love Nolan's interpretation but I think a totally faithful comic film with a bleached Joker and more comic feel would totally be the best thing ever. Imagine No Man's Land in film!

 

[gambitfire]

I thought the joker was loads of fun, The whole nurse outfit and his smile Hi to harvey was hysterical!

I couldn't stop laughing after the explosion scene. Ledger really made the character sick sadistic and entertaining.


and LMAO @ the Hannah Montana pic.

 

[The Batkilt]

I didn't really find either Batman Begins or The Dark Knight depressing. In all honesty the only Nolan film so far that's verged on being depressing to me is The Prestige. TDK fits in nicely alongside any crime drama, and generally those films don't tend to be uplifting films. I actually think there were more fun moments in TDK than in Begins.

 

[dontplaydead27]

Like the old Batman films? If by fun like them you mean slamming your dick in the oven, then I hope not.

 

[mavsmaniac21]

i thought batman begins and the dark knight were loads of fun. the way fun is described in the first couple posts of this thread sounds "campy". yearning for schumacher?

 

[dontplaydead27]

No.

 

[Sawyer]

No, geniuses, I meant the fun of Batman the Animated Series. No one- and I mean no one wants another Schumacher. I meant that I wanted the a bit of fun in the movies, while sticking to stories that respect the source material, like BTAS.

And I think my past posts have been worded wrong. I dont think I want more fun (Batman jumping around like an idiot in a nippled suit) as much as I want less depressing.

 

[jmc]

The thing that makes The Dark Knight stands out above the rest is because it's more 'depressing', anything lighter and it just becomes another typical superhero flick like Iron Man or Spider Man, both good films, but ultimately very formulaic. Fun is subjective, but if you enjoy a film immensely for what it is, I don't get what more you need.

 

[Sawyer]

Honestly, people are acting like I'm insulting TDK, which I'm not. I'm simply saying that my one and only issue, and not even a big one, was that I thought that the film was a bit depressing, and whatever, it's fine! It was a great film overall, I'm sorry for bringing it up!

The main question of my first post was, do you think that in the future, we will get a Batman film that is both true to the Batman mythos and is not quite so depressing, and that is overall a great film (Not like Schumachers)

 

[jmc]

That's a bit like asking how long a piece of string is.

 

[The Batkilt]

The main question of my first post was, do you think that in the future, we will get a Batman film that is both true to the Batman mythos and is not quite so depressing, and that is overall a great film (Not like Schumachers)

In the future, it's possible. But it depends on the director I guess. I think in terms of 'fun' Batman probably isn't up there with Spiderman, for example. Which is by no means an insult - Batman is my favourite comic book character but for the most part my enjoyment of him comes from the characters and stories more than anything else.

I personally don't think The Animated Series was that much lighter in tone, I think the main thing that seperated it - other than animation of course - was that Timm and Dini held back as it was a cartoon. But I could definitely see someone attempting to mesh the stylised aspects of the previous films along with the respect Nolan has used when handling the characters and stories, which is what I think BTAS achieved.

It's maybe worth noting that Goyer has that he's in the past discussed an outline for a trilogy with Chris and Jonah. In any story the second act is usually the most depressing/worst for the hero, so if they do make a third I do imagine there will not be as much gloom.

 

[david icke]

The way I am looking at the movies(and potential nolan trilogy) is that by the end of the third movie BM will have been through the wringer with his own sense of identity and relationship with the people of Gotham and will be the established order by the end of the third setting him up for James Bond type adventures afterwards, ie new villans, new places. The challenge for other filmakers will be to make his character anywhere near as interesting as he was when he was trying to find his place in the world and his sense of himself.
Pitting him against folk with superpowers, yes, I could go for that, it could be fun and also give his character something new to wrestle with. I always thought there was some ambiguous feeling kept around teh Ras of BB that he could have a toe in the supernatural, I could accept some sci-fi or mystical elements coming into play.
I'd also like to see him go outside of Gotham, yeah it's his perfect backdrop, but I've always liked stories like the first Ras Al Ghul one where we see Bats in different locales and other folks reactions to him who have never heard of him.
We shall see, but unfortunately the material could very easily go south if not handled well. Hell, one of my fav BM stories is 'Murder in the Night' from 1978, a great detective story where BM messes up and only survives due to dumb luck, but also has the villan putting his mind into the body of a Gorilla. That's the thing, if the story and dialoge are top notch I can handle Bm being up against the more outlandish, and that rooftop fight with teh Gorilla, great fun to read, could be even better on film.

 

[[A]]

No, geniuses, I meant the fun of Batman the Animated Series

I'm flattered t:

 

[Sawyer]

I'm flattered t:

Actually, I was referring to the two posting above me, but I'm sure you're a genius in your own right.