The Amazing Spider-Man With Great Power, Comes Great Lounging - Part 8

[spider-neil]

Harry on drugs in from Stan Lee, and it's excellent
The great stories from Conway in that era imo are Harry's Goblin, Man-Wolf, and Luke Cage's guest spot

I do appreciate Death of Gwen for what it did, for the legacy it left, the story itself though is not up my alley, it's good, not what I'd call a piece of excellence in ever way

So that's why his art looks massively improved in a few shots I saw of that crossover

JR JR is a lot like John Byrne, in the 80's untouchable, slight decline in the 90's and totally gone to the dogs in the 2000's. To be fair to Byrne his Next Men closing run was excellent but that more more writing than art.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

JR JR is a lot like John Byrne, in the 80's untouchable, slight decline in the 90's and totally gone to the dogs in the 2000's. To be fair to Byrne his Next Men closing run was excellent but that more more writing than art.

Byrne was really awesome back in the 70s and sometime in the 80s

In his current style I don't like to see close up shot of a face, especially one smiling big with teeth grinding, looks creepy

 

[spider-neil]

Byrne was really awesome back in the 70s and sometime in the 80s

In his current style I don't like to see close up shot of a face, especially one smiling big with teeth grinding, looks creepy

I think when you draw for decades you simply get bored and lazy.
I recently looked at JRJR run on Amazing in the 80's (nothing can stop the Juggernaught) and the difference from that to his current art style is STARK.

 

[spider-neil]

General question;

Which era of artist (drawing Peter Parker) does Andrew Garfield most resemble?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I think when you draw for decades you simply get bored and lazy.
I recently looked at JRJR run on Amazing in the 80's (nothing can stop the Juggernaught) and the difference from that to his current art style is STARK.

I guess you can say that about drawing so many sketches all these years
Nothing can Stop the Juggernaut is inked by Jim Mooney, and the style of Mooney is fleshed out
I guess it comes to what one fellow from spidermancrawlspace told me before, layouts and finishers, JRjr drew frame and motion in that story, physical outline, Mooney did the rest of work; facial details, expressions, etc

 

[spider-neil]

I guess you can say that about drawing so many sketches all these years
Nothing can Stop the Juggernaut is inked by Jim Mooney, and the style of Mooney is fleshed out
I guess it comes to what one fellow from spidermancrawlspace told me before, layouts and finishers, JRjr drew frame and motion in that story, physical outline, Mooney did the rest of work; facial details, expressions, etc

Whoa, interesting. So Mooney gets the credit for that run being so great? I read every issue of that Stern/Romita run and the art is knock it out of the park brilliant.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

General question;

Which era of artist (drawing Peter Parker) does Andrew Garfield most resemble?

He looks to me as if he was drawn by Paolo Rivera in face, Bagley in current physique, Humberto Ramos & Stefano Caselli in hairstyle
So I'd say he belongs to this era the most

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Whoa, interesting. So Mooney gets the credit for that run being so great? I read every issue of that Stern/Romita run and the art is knock it out of the park brilliant.

Yep, that way
Some issues like these

Had his father doing the heavy work, that made it look sr style

 

[spider-neil]

He looks to me as if he was drawn by Paolo Rivera in face, Bagley in current physique, Humberto Ramos & Stefano Caselli in hairstyle
So I'd say he belongs to this era the most

check this out;

 

[spider-neil]

Yep, that way
Some issues like these

Had his father doing the heavy work, that made it look sr style

Yep. Amazing art.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

check this out;

He does look a lot like this one as well
Aaand

 

[spider-neil]

He does look a lot like this one as well
Aaand

Definately.
I have that series on DVD. No where near as bad as some people make out. Certainly better than Ultimate Spider-Man *shudder*

 

[the.wolf]

Definately.
I have that series on DVD. No where near as bad as some people make out. Certainly better than Ultimate Spider-Man *shudder*

+1

I loved this show. I didn't understand it at first because Netflix has the episode order all wrong, but once I found that out, I understood a bit more. Been meaning to go back and watch it in its intended order.

Neil Patrick Harris did a pretty good job as Peter/Spidey if you ask me.

And yes. The US-M series is a mockery of the Spider-Man name. It has too many "lessons" for kids. It's why I loved Spectacular Spider-Man so much. It has these "lessons" in a very subtle fashion not slap-you-in-the-face-Hulk-crashing-through-roof type of way, like US-M

 

[spider-neil]

+1

I loved this show. I didn't understand it at first because Netflix has the episode order all wrong, but once I found that out, I understood a bit more. Been meaning to go back and watch it in its intended order.

Neil Patrick Harris did a pretty good job as Peter/Spidey if you ask me.

He did.
I saw it in the correct order as it was DVD that I first saw the series.
Avengers; Earth's blah blah blah. Season one has the same problem of out of sequence episodes which make it confusing as heck, the problem is fixed on the blu ray. I wish the blu ray was the thing I saw first.

 

[spider-neil]

+1

I loved this show. I didn't understand it at first because Netflix has the episode order all wrong, but once I found that out, I understood a bit more. Been meaning to go back and watch it in its intended order.

Neil Patrick Harris did a pretty good job as Peter/Spidey if you ask me.

And yes. The US-M series is a mockery of the Spider-Man name. It has too many "lessons" for kids. It's why I loved Spectacular Spider-Man so much. It has these "lessons" in a very subtle fashion not slap-you-in-the-face-Hulk-crashing-through-roof type of way, like US-M

To cancel SSM (imho the best incarnation of Spidey outside of the comics) and then replacing it with...'that'
is getting kicked in the balls and when you are on the floor reeling it's stealing your wallet.

 

[the.wolf]

To cancel SSM (imho the best incarnation of Spidey outside of the comics) and then replacing it with...'that'
is getting kicked in the balls and when you are on the floor reeling it's stealing your wallet.

Yeah, I agree with you there. The throwback to the old comics, even the more obscure references were just awesome. Like when he first gets the Black Suit and he puts his camera in his suit was just how it was shown in the comics when Peter returns from the Secret War in AS-M #252

And I really liked the almost shot-for-shot sequence of Amazing Fantasy #15 when he almost gets run over, jumps out of the way, climbs and crushes a pipe like paper.

 

[spider-neil]

Yeah, I agree with you there. The throwback to the old comics, even the more obscure references were just awesome. Like when he first gets the Black Suit and he puts his camera in his suit was just how it was shown in the comics when Peter returns from the Secret War in AS-M #252

And I really liked the almost shot-for-shot sequence of Amazing Fantasy #15 when he almost gets run over, jumps out of the way, climbs and crushes a pipe like paper.

To be fair the Ultimate Spider-Man isn't made for 'us' I'm sure if I was 10 I would love the heck out of this cartoon but a great cartoon can and should appeal to all ages.

Spectacular Spider-Man was pretty much perfect and made me feel like a kid again watching Saturday morning cartoons and to add insult to injury Sony can't even be bothered to release the entire season 2 on DVD.

 

[SymbioticToxin]

SSM was pure greatness because it combined the films, Ultimate Universe, and the main series all into one, yet managed to keep it close to the original mythos while also doing it's own thing and having fun with some things. Heck, it made me like Shocker, and I usually don't care about Shocker. If you can do that, well then 50 house points to you.

 

[spider-neil]

SSM was pure greatness because it combined the films, Ultimate Universe, and the main series all into one, yet managed to keep it close to the original mythos while also doing it's own thing and having fun with some things. Heck, it made me like Shocker, and I usually don't care about Shocker. If you can do that, well then 50 house points to you.

I loved the 90's series but imho SSM blew it out of the water.

To be fair to Ultimate Spider-Man the show makes me laugh at least ONCE in the 20 minutes that it lasts. One laugh per 20 minutes isn't 'too' bad I guess. :/

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Definately.
I have that series on DVD. No where near as bad as some people make out. Certainly better than Ultimate Spider-Man *shudder*

Agreed

SSM was pure greatness because it combined the films, Ultimate Universe, and the main series all into one, yet managed to keep it close to the original mythos while also doing it's own thing and having fun with some things. Heck, it made me like Shocker, and I usually don't care about Shocker. If you can do that, well then 50 house points to you.

Thumbs up for the Harry Potter comment

 

[spider-neil]

Agreed

Thumbs up for the Harry Potter comment

But loses 50 points for not saying which house gets the points

 

[Thwip!]

He looks to me as if he was drawn by Paolo Rivera in face, Bagley in current physique, Humberto Ramos & Stefano Caselli in hairstyle
So I'd say he belongs to this era the most

That's eerily exactly what I was thinking...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

That's eerily exactly what I was thinking...

That's great

 

[SymbioticToxin]

But loses 50 points for not saying which house gets the points

Another 50 house point awarded because we're the Spider House. Spider-House, Spider-House, does whatever a Spider-House does....sorry, kinda strayed off into lunacy for a bit. I'm good now.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Another 50 house point awarded because we're the Spider House. Spider-House, Spider-House, does whatever a Spider-House does....sorry, kinda strayed off into lunacy for a bit. I'm good now.

100 extra points for the cool name and funky crazy theme