The Dark Knight With the Prestige getting crap reviews

[Sharkboy]

^that being sed jackman and bale on broomsticks woulda been awesome too

 

[Superman4ever]

aren't you worried that Davooit Goyer has hardly any say or has no where near the creative involvement he had on the original Batman Begins than with Dark Night? I mean Jonah Nolan and Chris Nolan are the only two really working on the script with some "story input" despite teh fact that Goyer had such a kick ass original script.

I'm really getting worried that with the Prestige getting alot of crap reviews, I feel the Dark Knight will be no where near as good or may even be as big a pile of crap as the Prestige is.

LMFAO! I love it when idiot fan-boys jump to conclusions!

It's officially at 74% with critics and not all the reviews are in yet. Moreover, it's at a 95% with users! I guess this is the end, huh?

It's @ a 8.5/10 at Imdb which is pretty damn good considering the highest movie rated, The Godfather, has a 9.1

 

[Dcknight]

I saw the movie, and it was great! Great acting, Nolan with his atmosphere is awesome and it was a little bit previsible.

 

[Dark Knight]

After watching The Prestige, I think all Batman fans should be greatful that they have such a talented creative team behind the Franchise.

Exactly! The Prestige was mesmerizing! Just mesmerizing!

 

[66 Face]

Its a great movie that I can see going over peoples heads. Kind of like the way Memento did. Nolan has yet to make a bad movie IMO.

 

[cryptic name]

aren't you worried that Davooit Goyer has hardly any say or has no where near the creative involvement he had on the original Batman Begins than with Dark Night? I mean Jonah Nolan and Chris Nolan are the only two really working on the script with some "story input" despite teh fact that Goyer had such a kick ass original script.

I'm really getting worried that with the Prestige getting alot of crap reviews, I feel the Dark Knight will be no where near as good or may even be as big a pile of crap as the Prestige is.

anybody giving the prestige crap reviews is a cinematic idiot that didn't get it. we would be lucky to get a batman film as well thought out and haunting as the prestige.
pile of crap...jerk face.

 

[cryptic name]

Did he really? You saw the final frame. I don't think that was the case at all. I think...

Spoiler

That the final frame showed that there were (are) more of Angier's, and that possibly a duplicate of Angier is still alive.

Just my guess.

Spoiler

i think the purpose of the final frame was to get us guessing at some sort of more complex thing happening, but what we have to remember is that the movie is modeled after borden's trick. it's actually more simple than any of us want it to be. one rival is dead, the other is alive. one won, one lost.

 

[The Guard]

There are no conspiracies to the end of the film. In my mind, the point of the final frame is simply to get you to think about the price that must be paid for power. "Drowning" was a recurrent theme. The sacrifice that is made for something like ego, and the cost we incur ourselves. That's more or less the entire point of the film in my eyes. Clever film, nice message, well made, but nothing "great". Doesn't convince me Jonah Nolan can write great dialogue.

 

[Seen]

There are no conspiracies to the end of the film. In my mind, the point of the final frame is simply to get you to think about the price that must be paid for power. "Drowning" was a recurrent theme. The sacrifice that is made for something like ego, and the cost we incur ourselves. That's more or less the entire point of the film in my eyes. Clever film, nice message, well made, but nothing "great". Doesn't convince me Jonah Nolan can write great dialogue.

Interesting analysis, Dave. Anyway, I certainly thought the dialogue in THE PRESTIGE was better than anything David Goyer wrote dialogue-wise at least in BATMAN BEGINS.

 

[Sandman138]

There are no conspiracies to the end of the film. In my mind, the point of the final frame is simply to get you to think about the price that must be paid for power. "Drowning" was a recurrent theme. The sacrifice that is made for something like ego, and the cost we incur ourselves. That's more or less the entire point of the film in my eyes. Clever film, nice message, well made, but nothing "great". Doesn't convince me Jonah Nolan can write great dialogue.

I disagree, I think a great deal of the dialouge, though dramatic, was very human. Bordon's interactions with his family, Caine's blurred line between partner, mentor, and friend (which I would like to see more of in his role as Alfred), Jackman's relentless obbsessive time spent in the Colorados... all of it felt very real to me. The entire approach to the story felt like what was sorely missing from Begins. Jonathan has my vote all the way, and I'm eagerly awaiting Dark Knight now.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

i saw the presitge today and it honestly is among my favourite movies now. i thought it was just as good as batman begins although batman begins will always hold a special place in my heart.

my opinion? the prestige just proves that we have 2 genuises behind batman now. were very lucky.

and yes david goyer doesnt have as much imput in the dark knight but the other movie i think of when i think of david goyer is blade trinity. when i think of jonathan nolan i think of the prestige and memento and when i think of him helping with the Dark Knight my mouth waters.

and the prestige is getting great reviews

 

[Keyser Sushi]

I really... don't care about this movie either way. I like the people involved in the movie, but the basic premise of the film, and the commercials, do not interest me.

However, as I said, I like all the people involved with the film, so I'm sure whatever the case is with the film, it is most certainly well-made.

However, I am honestly just glad that it's in theaters now and is no longer standing between Chris Nolan and "The Dark Knight."

Yeah, I'm a Batman guy.

 

[Sandman138]

It's actually a really good meta-film. It's really about how far the man behind the curtain will go to make something simple and mundane mystify an audience. It's really worth seeing.

 

[Seen]

It's actually a really good meta-film. It's really about how far the man behind the curtain will go to make something simple and mundane mystify an audience. It's really worth seeing.

More than once, I might add. I am definitely going to catch it again just to absorb all of the little touches and moments.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I really... don't care about this movie either way. I like the people involved in the movie, but the basic premise of the film, and the commercials, do not interest me.

However, as I said, I like all the people involved with the film, so I'm sure whatever the case is with the film, it is most certainly well-made.

However, I am honestly just glad that it's in theaters now and is no longer standing between Chris Nolan and "The Dark Knight."

Yeah, I'm a Batman guy.

Completely agree.

I'd rather see Dave Blaine vs Criss Angel.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

I'm just not sure I'd enjoy it. I mean if the magicians were Penn & Teller, then, hell yeah.

Otherwise I mean... yeah it's got Chris Bale and Hugh Jackman, both of whom have done work that I enjoy... but people are acting like it's Batman vs. Wolverine and it's not -- they're not Batman and Wolverine, and they're not playing Batman and Wolverine, and so just the fact that they're in it doesn't mean I feel the need to go see it. It's two competing magicians. Yawn.

Also, I loved what Chris Nolan did with Batman Begins but that doesn't mean I want to go see every movie that he makes. Memento has always sounded like an interesting film. The Prestige... not so much.

*shrugs*

But just because it isn't interesting to me, doesn't mean it can't be interesting to other people. Some of you here loved the movie. Well, that's great.

But I have zero interest in it.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Completely agree.

I'd rather see Dave Blaine vs Criss Angel.

Well, one of them has boned Fiona Apple, so he's already won. Or lost... I guess it depends on one's perspective.

ANYway... I'd be all about Penn vs. Teller.

 

[IamBatty]

I really... don't care about this movie either way. I like the people involved in the movie, but the basic premise of the film, and the commercials, do not interest me.

However, as I said, I like all the people involved with the film, so I'm sure whatever the case is with the film, it is most certainly well-made.

However, I am honestly just glad that it's in theaters now and is no longer standing between Chris Nolan and "The Dark Knight."

Yeah, I'm a Batman guy.

LOL. YEAH! Now get on with the casting!!!

 

[xanberkeley]

The reviews are mixed but I for one dont really pay attention to the critics all the time. The Scarlett fever seems to be getting to many because she's also getting some beatings from critics and fans as the weak link,filler role,over exposure et al.
This movie I can watch when I have time but its Harry Potter I highly recommend. Interesting that Ryan Phillippe is being heralded on Flags of our Fathers.

 

[Boom]

The Prestige was a movie that required constant attention. I really enjoyed it.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

I saw it today and yes you do have to pay attention. I thought it was brilliant, but my dad hated it, he seemed to think nothing really happened. I think he just didn't pay enough attention to the film, I think perhaps he was expecting a straight-up duel movie but that just wasn't what the film was. Also like Nolan's other films its non-linear, that may have turned him off to it. Some people disliked Memento because of that.

 

[Sandman138]

It's not entirely non-linear. The movie follows a pretty solid thread through the two men's journals. However, there are many "stories within a story".

This is actually an element I would love to see in The Dark Knight. The story within a story technique could be used to wonderful effect if the clues to a mystery take on the same role as the two men's journals did in this film. I really want to see a real mystrey in a Batman film for once. Not just detective work, a full on mystery.

I would also like to see their approach to the element of performance. Begins made it clear that theatricality was a prime motivation for Batman's methodology. Batman is, in many ways, an illusionist; and he approaches confrontation as a showman as much as he does a tactician. However, I think they approached this idea with the wrong mentality. Begins put a great deal of focus on how he does it and not why. To further the analogy: it put more emphasis on the secret instead of on the prestige.

Now, consider these two lines from The Prestige:

Now, you're looking for the secret, but you won't find it. Because, of course, you're not really looking; you don't really want to know.

The secret impresses no one. The trick you use it for is what's important.

These embody the movie's approach. They give you just enough of an idea of how the tricks are done to whet your appatite, but they're not concerned with how the illusion works. Instead, they let the performance take precendence, and in so doing, allow it to mystify you. I'd like to see them give The Dark Knight the same treatment.

 

[heypapajinx]

the reviews here in my city said it was great!
and that's in both the local statesman and the indipendant paper, and they rarely ever agree!