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Big Dirty Ogre said:I mean, that's real cement we're talking about there.
that's scary just THINKING about it...
Big Dirty Ogre said:I mean, that's real cement we're talking about there.
Guyverjay said:What ever you say Mr Kettle
Theres a crap load of people spidey cannot beat under normal circumstances
Zeitgeist
Dr Doom
Iron man
Thor
Hulk (he recently beat Hulk but it was a it was lame, a cement truck?)
Hercules
Juggernaut (the fight was a lucky one for webhead)
Prof X
Ice man
Magneto
Etc
...wolverine isnt one of them
Guyverjay said:Hell no Spidey has had his ass whipped by Doom
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Back in the 80's I'd give spidey a shot at Iron man (after all he wiped his ass with Iron man 2020 and the jury) but now Iron man is too powerful. How would spidey beat Ice man?
Guyverjay said:So.... if Captain America dressed up like Adolf hiter and then blew off the red skull while wiping his ass with the US flag THAT wouldn't be "out of character"?
What about Batman stumbles into a criminial hideout and then takes out an uzi and blows them all away?
The Flash removes a criminals brain killing him
Superman throws a guy into the sun or punches some guys head clean off
Daredevil punches Juggernaut clean out
Would any of that be perfectly acceptable to you if it was published by marvel and DC?
Wolverine beats Lobo in a...whoops already been done
Guyverjay said:Hell no Spidey has had his ass whipped by Doom
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Back in the 80's I'd give spidey a shot at Iron man (after all he wiped his ass with Iron man 2020 and the jury) but now Iron man is too powerful. How would spidey beat Ice man?
Deadpool187 said:Yeah, but then there would be no point for whereing a helmate then
Guyverjay said:Wolvies bones are more durable then spider-mans, everything else isnt. The healing factor makes up for that but that isn't durabilty Mr Kettle
Big Dirty Ogre said:durable:wear-resistant; existing for a long time;serviceable for a long time
Wolverine's healing factor has everything to do with durability, Mr. Needs-to-buy-a-dictionary.
It's more relevant than his skeleton, concerning his durability.
Durability concerns duration.
Wolverine is 130 years old because he has a healing factor.
He continues to exist because of it, through countless beatdowns, burnings, gunshots, etc.
It's what's increased the duration of his existence, and the amount of abuse he can take.
Wolverine's healing factor makes him more durable than Spider-man.
Dr.Fear said:dr.doom? iron man,ice man?! i think spidey can take these people down.
Spiders have tough exteriors. Exoskeletons.Deadpool187 said:Ok what makes his body not normal durabilty wise then?
Suleman said:What the? NO! Ice man is immortal and can kill Spidey easily. Iron man has "superior tech" and Doom is a walking plot-device. He can't win them in normal circumstances.
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It isn't semantics, it's cut and dry facts.
You're the one employing semantics, when the end result is the same.
Wolverine will last longer because he's got a healing factor.
He can take a beating much better than Spider-man can.
You can post whatever alternate definition of the word you want, what I'm saying fits the basic definition to a tee.
Eat it, fanboy.
Wolverine is tougher, and more durable than Spider-man. He will be around long after Spider-man is dead.
Spider-man was only ever said to have more durable connective tissues than a human being, and even having 5 times the overall durability of a human being wouldn't matter if Juggernaut was beating on you.
That's just bad writing.
A Juggernaut pimp slapping should knock out Spider-man just as easily, if not moreso, and less has floored Spider-man before.
Saying "so has Wolverine...." doesn't change the fact that Spider-man's abilities are as erratic as Wolverine's ever were.
i'm Spider-Man said:that's scary just THINKING about it...
Big Dirty Ogre said:Guyverjay said:QUOTE]
It isn't semantics, it's cut and dry facts.
You're the one employing semantics, when the end result is the same.
Wolverine will last longer because he's got a healing factor.
He can take a beating much better than Spider-man can.
You can post whatever alternate definition of the word you want, what I'm saying fits the basic definition to a tee.
Eat it, fanboy.
Wolverine is tougher, and more durable than Spider-man. He will be around long after Spider-man is dead.
Spider-man was only ever said to have more durable connective tissues than a human being, and even having 5 times the overall durability of a human being wouldn't matter if Juggernaut was beating on you.
That's just bad writing.
A Juggernaut pimp slapping should knock out Spider-man just as easily, if not moreso, and less has floored Spider-man before.
Saying "so has Wolverine...." doesn't change the fact that Spider-man's abilities are as erratic as Wolverine's ever were.
Good points and all well taken Orge BUT Wolverine's skin, nerves, tissues etc are the same as a humans. His healing factor of course helps reduce injury and of course repair them much faster than a normal humans. But other than that I THINK IMPO that Wolverine's body should respond much the same way a normal human does.
I mean think about it, you take a knife and run it along a person's skin with pressure they cut and bleed. The same applies to logan, only his skin heals in mere seconds, not days or weeks.
So I am not saying Spider-Man is so much more durable than Wolverine if anything they are equal or pete has a slight edge, not counting the healing factor or adamantium laced bones. I just mean that Logan is just as susectible to being knocked out as pete or a normal human. In terms of taking a beating yes Logan can take a pounding but so can pete.
Wolverine can be killed, if his injuries were extensive enough he would die. The more the severe the injury the longer it takes him to heal from it. Would Pete kill him, no of course not. Could he? Possibly.
As I said earlier I think this is a draw if you are talking the way the characters are protrayed in general. If we are talking what they are really capable of, pete wins if he doesn't hold back. Either by ko or tyring up Logan so he is incapaciatated. IMPO
Big Dirty Ogre said:Guyverjay said:QUOTE]
It isn't semantics, it's cut and dry facts.
Sematics Kettle, semantics
You're the one employing semantics, when the end result is the same.
Yeah the end result is wolverine hanging in the air with his fists webbed to his head
Wolverine will last longer because he's got a healing factor.
I've never said otherwise kettle
He can take a beating much better than Spider-man can.
Again I never said otherwise Kettle, having a regneration factor helps tremendously
You can post whatever alternate definition of the word you want, what I'm saying fits the basic definition to a tee.
Ahh you see thats the thing about the english language is that words can have more than one definition . The definition for durability that I found fits what I'm saying to a tee. Besides you conviently ignore that Wolverine essentially replaces body parts when regenerating from certain injuries in his history. That flies in the face of your definition
Eat it, fanboy.
From your pic I think you're the most experienced in eating
Wolverine is tougher, and more durable than Spider-man. He will be around long after Spider-man is dead.
Yes he will out last spider-man if they both die by natural causes but when you're in the super hero biz its not that cut and dried kettle
Spider-man was only ever said to have more durable connective tissues than a human being, and even having 5 times the overall durability of a human being wouldn't matter if Juggernaut was beating on you.
That's just bad writing.
Thats great coming from a wolverine fanwanker such as yourself. Sorry but its only bad writing if it goes against the status quo (spidey vs Firelord for example I consider to be bad writing. (Oh wait a spidey fanboy shouldn't say should that, guess I'm thrown out the club ) Spidey has shown time and time again that he can take a beating from people that are vastly stronger than himself. Besides the blows raing down on him from juggy were hardly full strength. You try and hit someone full force when they are on your back and are a quarter of your size kettle
A Juggernaut pimp slapping should knock out Spider-man just as easily, if not moreso, and less has floored Spider-man before.
Leave his head ringing? yes, stunned? yes, put on the floor? yes knocked out? I disagree. Besides who cares what you think should happen we only have what did happen Wolvie got knocked spark out, that isn't speculation kettle thats a fact
Saying "so has Wolverine...." doesn't change the fact that Spider-man's abilities are as erratic as Wolverine's ever were.
Did I say it did Kettle? But now you bring it up wolvie is the Batman of the marvel universe.
Yep you still never answered any of the questions Mr Kettle