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Comics Would you recommend Kevin Smith's "Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do"?

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Would you recommend buying Kevin Smith's Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do series? Yes? No? Maybe? Undecided?
 
It's not that bad.

Depends what you want really. There is a fummy moment between Nightcrawler, Daredevil and Spidey, which serves no purpose other than exposition. Unless the baddie returns in future, that is.

Some dark/adult stuff being dealt with. Enjoyable, but in a Schindler's List/PAssion of Christ type way.
 
The first half is good. The second half is bad enough to skip the whole thing.
 
Dr. Fate said:
Would you recommend buying Kevin Smith's Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do series? Yes? No? Maybe? Undecided?

No!!
 
Dr. Fate said:
Would you recommend buying Kevin Smith's Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do series? Yes? No? Maybe? Undecided?

I haven't read it, but bear in mind that Mr. Smith left something like 2 year gap before finishing the last 2(?) issues. This rubbed a hell of a lot of people the wrong way. Which is understandable... Regardless of it being bad or good, the fans feel dissed.

At 1st I wasn't going to read it... but now, I might give it a try. I heard some people on the Marvel Comics thread dug it... I mean, the last issue of Watchmen took a year to come out, and that hasn't affected people's thoughts on the book.

I have to say, I find it absolutley hilarious that loads of artists and writers try to be funny and friendly, or even just talkative to fans, and people will always say stuff like "I wish he was dead!!!!" And someone like Alan Moore is an a-hole to EVERYBODY possible, including fans/publishers/artists and EVERYBODY finds it hard to point out that regardless of his work, he's a complete tool.

I mean, loads of people on the web start boycotting writers/artists if they can in the slightest way, interepret what a writer/artist says as vaguely insulting. Moore on the other hand, insults everyone, and no one will ever consider boycotting him. In fact, there's still a massive part of the comic community that consider him the greatest writer of all time...
 
wolvie2020 said:
I haven't read it, but bear in mind that Mr. Smith left something like 2 year gap before finishing the last 2(?) issues. This rubbed a hell of a lot of people the wrong way. Which is understandable... Regardless of it being bad or good, the fans feel dissed.

At 1st I wasn't going to read it... but now, I might give it a try. I heard some people on the Marvel Comics thread dug it... I mean, the last issue of Watchmen took a year to come out, and that hasn't affected people's thoughts on the book.

I have to say, I find it absolutley hilarious that loads of artists and writers try to be funny and friendly, or even just talkative to fans, and people will always say stuff like "I wish he was dead!!!!" And someone like Alan Moore is an a-hole to EVERYBODY possible, including fans/publishers/artists and EVERYBODY finds it hard to point out that regardless of his work, he's a complete tool.

I mean, loads of people on the web start boycotting writers/artists if they can in the slightest way, interepret what a writer/artist says as vaguely insulting. Moore on the other hand, insults everyone, and no one will ever consider boycotting him. In fact, there's still a massive part of the comic community that consider him the greatest writer of all time...
Irony. What a concept. :csad:
 
The first 3 issues, in my mind set up a really exciting story.
Disregarding the 3 year break inbetween issues 3-4, the last 3 issues do not live up to the caliber of the first 3.
 
Personally I would stay away from it, for one it's very adult themed so keep it away from little kids and quite frankly, it just doesn't feel like a Spider-Man story.
 
And just an FYI, th' villain does make a return in FNSM right now.
 
Yes, I would recommend Kevin Smith's "Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do"........






























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WOLVERINE25TH said:
And just an FYI, th' villain does make a return in FNSM right now.

Yeah. He's one of...three, right? Three? Mysterios running around right now.
 
I have always felt that you can either like Kevin Smith as a film maker or a comic book writer. I had a huge respect for him as a film maker and when he started making comics, i was thrilled, but when it took him 3 years to finish a 6 issue arc, I lost repect. The man really can't keep track of his own projects. I have waited over 4 years for him to make "Fletch Won". Instead he made Clearks 2, good movie, but he didnt need to make it. Now his fletch movie will never be made because he waited too long and lost the rights. He tries to be two different things and he shouldnt, he's a good writer, but needs to stay away from a comic book writer because he can't ever finish anthing.
 
Nope.

It does not get my seal of approval
 
It's a story about Breast Cat - I mean Black Tat - er... Black Cat.

You can find every good quality in her character in a Maxim magazine. Don't bother with "The Evil..."
 
Yes, its makes excellent toilet paper.
 
Read the whole thing today while I was at Barnes and Noble, and I think most people here are just sore that Kevin Smith took so long to finish the thing, which is understandable. It's not the greatest Spider-Man story ever written (and certainly not worth the $20 that the hardcover costs) but its pretty decent and at least I don't think it's deserving of all the hatred it gets.

Unfortunately, it suffers from some of the same problems that I see in a lot of Marvel stories lately...exciting build-up to a so-so climax. The first few issues have action, a little mystery, and are well paced; then all of a sudden Spidey, Daredevil, and Nightcrawler are standing around a rooftop talking about mutant history for a whole issue. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the fact that it was originally a four part story that was stretched to six, but it's still a negative. And like almost all tv/movie people who do comics, Smith has the characters talking more about actors and movie references than they normally would. Black Cat taking Spidey down in mere seconds never sat well with me either but hey, he's been beaten by freaking Stilt Man before, so I can let it slide.

So if you can forget about HUGE amount of time it took for Smith to actually finish it, it's actually a good story...just nothing special. I'd recommend it if you can find it cheap.
 
I read the first couple of issues, liked them, then got fed up with the massive wait for the remaining few. I haven't read them and based on what people have said here I'm probably not going to bother. I might try and read it in a store or library but won't be being it.
 
I have the first three issues but didn't feel like going out of my way for the rest of it. Not a bitter fanboy or anything, I just kind of forgot about him finishing it.

I thought the first few issues were fun, especially the dialogue between Spidey and Black Cat.
 
I thought it was pretty good. Hell, considering some of the crap that's being put on Spidey titles nowadays, it's probably on the list as one of the best modern Spidey stories out there.

The only problems I have are, the aformentioned large ass delay, but like other's have said, guys like Alan Moore took over a year and no one says s**t about that.

Also, without spoiling it, the developments shown on the second-to-last issue with both the antagonist of the story and Black Cat really walks the line of the after school special mentality. While it is a very heavy subject, and can't be approached in any other way without becoming tasteless, it does feel a bit cheesy sometimes.

Besides that, it's still a pretty decent story. If you're a Smith fan, you would probably want to buy the HC, but if you're wishy-washy, I'd suggest either finding it at a library or waiting until it goes softcover.
 

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