Wow! Yahoo gave X3 higher reviews than S3

[pyro9vivacita]

Wow! Yahoo gave X3 higher reviews than SM3. Thats cool. The critics both give the movies a B- and the viewers gave X3 a B+ and the viewers for SM3 are giving a B... and I thought X-men fans were tough....

 

[Loganbabe]

That´s interesting...considering the "the Spidey franchise is the Second Coming while X3 is pure trash" stuff that we see going on this board!
I always thought the X franchise was better, even if X3 wasn´t as great as I expected...anyway, having a lot of money to spend is not what makes a movie truly remarkable.

 

[Mike059jig]

There is alot of disappointment between each movie.....

 

[danoyse]

Rotten Tomatoes is also showing a big split between SM1 & SM2 and SM3. The first two movies rated in the 90s, the new movie is at 62%.

Sounds like both movies suffered from a case of three-quelitis.

I liked Spidey 3. Yeah, it had too many villians, and the pacing was off, but it was very enjoyable. I'm going back this week so I can see it at the IMAX. t:

 

[BMM]

Rotten Tomatoes is also showing a big split between SM1 & SM2 and SM3. The first two movies rated in the 90s, the new movie is at 62%.

Sounds like both movies suffered from a case of three-quelitis.

I liked Spidey 3. Yeah, it had too many villians, and the pacing was off, but it was very enjoyable. I'm going back this week so I can see it at the IMAX. t:

I'm going back to see it, and hopefully, with a better audience...

 

[danoyse]

I'm going back to see it, and hopefully, with a better audience...

Same here! I saw it NY last night, which is usually a fun crowd (at least they were for SM1), but they just got out of control and just plain obnoxious by the end of the movie.

So this week I'm going to an afternoon show at the IMAX with my dad. And he's going to love it, so it should be more fun this time. t:

 

[The Batman]

Spider-Man 3, while highly disappointing, is light years beyond X3...

 

[CapBeerCino]

The critics both give the movies a B-

All 15 of them? Wow... If you want to know what the critics think you should check RT, not yahoo who only list a few reviews per movie.

Regarding the users reviews only 13,000 ppl voted (TLS has 60,000 votes) and considering how well SM3 is doing a lot more ppl will vote. Not that I liked SM3 much, but this thread is kind of pointless at the moment.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Spider-Man 3 was good, very good. Not a great masterpiece.

What people misunderstand is the franchise has been handled a lot better and has had little studio interference until this third film. Avi forced Raimi to include Venom and because of that the story suffered.

It's still light years beyond X3 though. Something about the third comic book film that keeps it from being great.

 

[CapBeerCino]

I don't think Venum is the script's problem. The movie is uneven - some parts are great, some are embarrassingly bad. I think I should watch it again...

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Maybe X3 is getting better reviews because it's a better movie!

I don't think Venum is the script's problem. The movie is uneven - some parts are great, some are embarrassingly bad. I think I should watch it again...

-Totally random, out of nowhere, comet that crashes to Earth 5 feet away from Peter Parker but he doesn't notice anything with his Spidey Sense?!

-Flint Marko "not being a bad guy" as he says it, even though he killed an innocent man in cold blood?!

-Peter Parker dancing around New York like an idiot for about 10 minutes straight?!

-Mary Jane captured by the bad guy YET AGAIN?!

Man, I liked the movie, but there was nothing special about it at all. X-Men: The Last Stand is leaps and bounds a better movie than Spiderman 3.

 

[Theweepeople]

Spider-Man 3 was good, very good. Not a great masterpiece.

What people misunderstand is the franchise has been handled a lot better and has had little studio interference until this third film. Avi forced Raimi to include Venom and because of that the story suffered.

It's still light years beyond X3 though. Something about the third comic book film that keeps it from being great.

I haven't seen Spiderman 3 yet but, I'll take your word for it. Despite all the negative things that I've heard there's no way it could be any worse than X3 with that budget and runningtime. There might have been too many characters but, the length of the film indicates that at least an attempt was made to develop the characters. Not like the half-assed attempt that X3's running time suggested for a ridiculous number of characters and storylines to be developed in 103 minutes.

 

[La_She-Beast]

Yesterday I saw S3 and thought it was cool. Unlike anyone, I enjoyed the funny parts... and loved the special effects.
Things I didn't like tho:
Venom- I loved his "extra" teeth, but woulda liked to see him more vicious.
Too many coincidences- A meteor falls right next to Spidey, the symbiote falls on Eddie,

Spoiler

Sandman is the killer of uncle Ben

Wished I heard more Danny Elfman's darkness Some tuba parts wuv them :heart:

Whoops wrong thread

I agree with TheWeepeople, they attempt working on the development characters, contains some feeling into it. X3 is... dry.

 

[danoyse]

-Peter Parker dancing around New York like an idiot for about 10 minutes straight?!

Ahem. I thought that part was funny.

 

[04nbod]

guys remember some people won't have seen S3 yet so spoilers should still be tagged IMO

 

[danoyse]

I haven't seen Spiderman 3 yet but, I'll take your word for it. Despite all the negative things that I've heard there's no way it could be any worse than X3 with that budget and runningtime. There might have been too many characters but, the length of the film indicates that at least an attempt was made to develop the characters. Not like the half-assed attempt that X3's running time suggested for a ridiculous number of characters and storylines to be developed in 103 minutes.

Actually, my biggest complaint was the character development in Spiderman 3. Even with 2 hours and 20 minutes, the villians seemed more like glorified cameos that weaved in and out of the story without much resolution to either.

Still a fun movie, though. I enjoyed both, so all is well. t:

 

[cookiva]

I haven't seen Spiderman 3 yet but, I'll take your word for it. Despite all the negative things that I've heard there's no way it could be any worse than X3 with that budget and runningtime. .

I dont understand. Spiderman 3's budget was more than X3's? Are you saying that every film, if it wants to be a decent film, has to be expensive?

 

[La_She-Beast]

Yeah, I agree with that danoyse... imo "glorified cameos" it's the word. Even so, they had a feeling which in X3 lacked.

Spoiler

E.g.s His origin, his daughter

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Maybe X3 is getting better reviews because it's a better movie!



-Totally random, out of nowhere, comet that crashes to Earth 5 feet away from Peter Parker but he doesn't notice anything with his Spidey Sense?!

-Flint Marko "not being a bad guy" as he says it, even though he killed an innocent man in cold blood?!

-Peter Parker dancing around New York like an idiot for about 10 minutes straight?!

-Mary Jane captured by the bad guy YET AGAIN?!

Man, I liked the movie, but there was nothing special about it at all. X-Men: The Last Stand is leaps and bounds a better movie than Spiderman 3.

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Spoiler

The symbiote coming out of the meteor should've made his Spider-Sense go off the charts, this is something I agree with.

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Spoiler

That is what I was explaining to you about bad guys not being bad at all. In a sense he wasn't a bad guy, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Spoiler

Parker dancing down the street was gold. Gold I tell you! t: Come on, he has some stronger powers and is getting it on with the ladies? That was just downright awesome. Tobey isn't a bad dancer either.

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Spoiler

MJ being kidnapped again was definitely a route that I hoped they wouldn't take again.

In your opinion X3 may be a better movie. In my opinion, Spider-Man 3 is the better movie due to the franchise having the studio handle the material better. I still wish they hadn't forced Raimi to include Venom, Gwen Stacy, or Sandman if he was going to be reduced to almost a cameo like state. But hey, what can you do?

 

[cookiva]

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Spoiler

That is what I was explaining to you about bad guys not being bad at all. In a sense he wasn't a bad guy, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Spoiler

How can you actually say this? If thats the case, why would he join venom and actually kill all of the cops who were trying to get MJ back before Spidey came??? Was that the wrong place? Nope. They handled this movie pretty poorly if you dissect it. It was an enjoyable film, but IMO X3 was superior in that departement, so for me, X3 was a better film. Both were sequels that didnt live up to the previous hype, and X3 was a better popcorny summer film. I didnt feel embarassed as a comic fan to the public as i did with SP3. When Peter dances, i sunk in my chair, as everyone was laughing!

 

[La_She-Beast]

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Spoiler

Tobey isn't a bad dancer either.

Damn right you are!!! Tobey's awesome:heart: He looks like a younger Niles

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Maybe X3 is getting better reviews because it's a better movie!



-Totally random, out of nowhere, comet that crashes to Earth 5 feet away from Peter Parker but he doesn't notice anything with his Spidey Sense?!

-Flint Marko "not being a bad guy" as he says it, even though he killed an innocent man in cold blood?!

-Peter Parker dancing around New York like an idiot for about 10 minutes straight?!

-Mary Jane captured by the bad guy YET AGAIN?!

Man, I liked the movie, but there was nothing special about it at all. X-Men: The Last Stand is leaps and bounds a better movie than Spiderman 3.

Maybe you REALLY should put this on spoilers. Me and many others haven't seen the movie.

 

[danoyse]

Spoiler

Tobey isn't a bad dancer either.

Hugh's better.

But Tobey's adorable...and I loved that scene. t:

 

[X-Maniac]

Interesting stuff. I haven't seen Spidey 3 yet, I'm waiting for a quiet time to go (it's a holiday weekend here, so it's a bit hectic everywhere). I don't feel 'spoiled' as the news and reviews are all over the place, so it's hard to avoid seeing some of the details.

I was rather hoping we'd see Dr Connor emerge as the Lizard (after his previous cameo roles) and somehow the Lizard being tied to the creation of Venom or another supervillain - Dr Connor investigating ways to regrow his lost arm and finding something that is then used by another person to become a villain as well. But I can understand giant lizards are a bit of a yawn now, with all the dinosaur movies we've had.

Reviews here in the UK have been fairly negative, dismissing Sandman as a rip-off of Imhotep in The Mummy movies and saying that there are inconsistencies in all the villains.

It does seem that something can happen to third movies:.. studio interference... overcompensating with too many characters... stepping up the cheese factor... creating very final story outcomes to round things off...retcons of previous events...

I can't judge yet if Spidey 3 is better, for me, than X3. When I see it, I'll make my decision then!

 

[Theweepeople]

I dont understand. Spiderman 3's budget was more than X3's? Are you saying that every film, if it wants to be a decent film, has to be expensive?

What are you suggesting? You must have misinterpreted something that I said. I have never said every film needs an expensive budget to be decent. One of my favorite movies has a budget of $60,000(PI). I am saying that history has shown that most comic book movies with budgets under 100 million turn out to be mediocre to horrible movies. I can only think of two comic book movies with budgets over 100 million that were terrible(Ghost Rider, Batman and Robin). There are plenty of bad comic book movies with budgets under 100mil(Elekra, Daredevil, Catwoman, LOXG, Steel, Blade 2, Blade Trinity, Spawn, and The Punisher. Batman Forever and FF had budgets right at 100mil. Both were mediocre pictures.

Even though I hate X3(210mil budget) I would still give it a rating of 6.5 out of 10 and it was better then all of the movies I mentioned above due to it's budget. The budget of X3 tells me that at some point in time during this rushed production Fox knew that had to make a good movie. Unfortunately, the departure of Vauhgn ruined any chance of this film turning out good.