World X-Men and Homosexuality: The Connection

imaperson2 said:
hey guys well i am posting here because i am gay. i am not out to anybody except the online world. i need help doing this. if anyone can help me:please do

Where do you live?

Environmental, authoritative, familial and friendly influences figure largely into your constitution and componental makeup; if you're not out, obvious reasons stand out, in addition to the less obvious, of course, and variable reasons.

First off, let's start with why you're not out and how your happiness and wellbeing is either compounded (of course it never seems to be) or correlated to your 'closet' predicament.
 
to start off, i live in california. im not "out of the closet" because i am afraid of what will happen when my family finds out. will they still love me as a son or will they be ashamed? this is what i am afraid of finding out. but then again, i am not comfortable hiding this secret. i dont really know what else to say

are u gay pyromaniac? if so are u openly gay? how did u come out?
 
oh dear.
i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you know what, when my mom found out about me she didn't talk to me for a week. a solid week. it was painful. i was 15 at the time, and i needed support from someone, so i went to my friends.
if i might suggest you go to your friends first and wait on your family.

but, also, think about this, it's different for everyone. your family might not care, they might already see it, know it, and just not say anything about it. regardless of what happens, they'll still love you, and it'll take time to get better.

i know from experience.
keep your chin up, time makes everything feel better.
 
imaperson2 said:
hey guys well i am posting here because i am gay. i am not out to anybody except the online world. i need help doing this. if anyone can help me please write back
Sure, we're all here to help man. We've been through it. And your life will NEVER be better then after you come out. All this bull***** that you have on your shoulders will finally go away. Those first few weeks may be slightly difficult, but you will come out of it a better man. Your family will finally know who their child really is, and it should bring you closer to them.
My coming out experience was positive. My mother had a hard time with it the first few weeks, but my relationship with my father, sister, and mother has never been better since after I came out. In general, it is because I am a happier person. I don't have that burden of walking around feeling like a complete lie.

So my advice to you, if your ready, then do it. The sooner you do it, the sooner your life can change for the better.
 
but what if they DONT accept me? also if i were open i think i would lose a lot of people as friends. i dont want none of that to happen. its just really hard.
 
imaperson2 said:
to start off, i live in california. im not "out of the closet" because i am afraid of what will happen when my family finds out. will they still love me as a son or will they be ashamed? this is what i am afraid of finding out. but then again, i am not comfortable hiding this secret. i dont really know what else to say

are u gay pyromaniac? if so are u openly gay? how did u come out?

Yeah, I'm as gay as... Hugh Jackman could be! You know, if he were gay. :)

I also have a boyfriend. Three years and nearly a half on the clock. :up

He gets along well with my family and friends. If that isn't good enough of indication as to how my coming out process came out... oh, alright I'll tell you.

It was earthquakes! Of the -0.01 Richter scale, that is. :)

I find that it's easier to 'come out' in action rather than the mandatory utterance: "Mom, Dad, I'm gay as a rainbow." After all, actions are louder than words.

It took a while, but because I knew I just had to be myself - I slipped in posters of male celebrities I liked and admired on the bedroom walls, into school confectionary artwork, on the computer, and so on.

I always knew I was gay. I was confident; everything was natural to me, and felt natural, and I never saw a reason why I shouldn't have to hide.

My father, who's very conservative in human feeling (as most males of old-school are...) even was the same way: when he was told, he went, oh okay, and just walked out of the room.

It must be noted that, intermittently but ironically, those talks of "what's it like to be gay? Why aren't you attracted to girls? If you're happy though, I'm happy" manifested years later! We're a bit slow, we are. :)

Dad was asking most of those by the way; he was curious. Of course that initial encounter between my parents and boyfriend can be a little awkward, but it was much easier with my mother, I think (they're divorced incidentally, but good friends now, so we only met separately), because they get along better than with my father.

But he doesn't mind, all the same. We've had parties together: Christmas, Boxing Day, birthdays, special occasions, and even work functions.

I even came out in school, and all my straight friends congealed around me and asked painfully honest questions: how are you attracted to men? What's the sex like?

:eek:

Even one whom I had a great crush on and used to tell of my 'love' for him to my group of friends (he was in it as well, so...) and they'd shake their heads laughing, amused; even one who found out about said crush - by accident I might add - and just shrugged it off, so I could continue longing after him to both of our hearts' content. :p

I'm Vietnamese by the way, so I come from a traditional culture (don't we all?), but my family was very supportive of me. Happiness and wellbeing and all that. They love me. :)

My boyfriend too. Does ensure automatically a big check in the plus column as far as family kinships are concerned. My cousins, sister like him too: he has a very playful, spontaneous, disarming sense of humour, though his jokes don't always turn out right... :p

But, though the coming out process scenario is quite linear from a pathological point of view, there are always, as I say, extenuating circumstances. If you're in the closet, it might be more mental than anything else. Only problem is, you don't know nor realise it.

But if outside forces that you can't seem to control (only your own destiny, which is a huge difference), ie interfering or distant family members, those who proclaim prejudice for minorities, and so on. I mean, I don't know what your family is like.

Is it expressive of love? It doesn't sound like it... But it doesn't have to. Actions after all, speak louder. However, if you know in your heart that if they're your family and if they still don't love you, then you can't accept it to be true, because it means you don't know your family at all. Not the other way around. You have to know it or not.

Does this help?

I can help with more accounts of people and friends that I know who had just as great and just as unique coming out of their own. One most notably a 49 year old man, used to be married, but great friends with his two adult children and ex-wife (who incidentally, was a lot more relieved he was gay than if he was having an affair with a woman...).

Of course he was so afraid to tell them from the beginning. But it went a lot more swimmingly than he thought. He had raised his children to be very tolerant of gays, and whom they made friends with too. When rumours circulated of his homosexuality, the then teenage daughter was approached by a friend: "I heard your father is gay. Is it true?"

She draws herself up and rejoinders haughtily, "Yes it is true. And so what? I love him all the same."

And the friend quickly rechecked her perceptions right and there.

Also, similiar story with the teenage daughter hanging out with a very flamboyant boy: she told her peers that it was because he had a good heart and she liked his company, despite initial exterior appearances.

So you have all facets and all types of life. Nothing is as ever on the surface as it seems. Even if it is the surface at first for a while.
 
imaperson2 said:
but what if they DONT accept me? also if i were open i think i would lose a lot of people as friends. i dont want none of that to happen. its just really hard.
then they're not really your friends.
your real friends will love you no matter what and stick by your side.
 
Your great with words Pyro. I get what your saying about the whole actions louder then words thing. My next question to imaperson2 would be does he fly under the gaydar, or gay radar? Because from my experience, most people thought I was straight. My mom, friends, sister. It was never a kind of "known" thing.

I mean we have those friends that you know if their parents did not suspect them, then they were pretty much in denial. I am only asking this because imaperson2, if you are in all perceptions..."straight" then your coming out process will probably be different.

Either way, I believe your family is suspect. My theory is if your family knows you in any way, then they have in inkling of who you truly are. It is their decision to deny it, or accept it.
 
i am telling you - there's got to be some kind of subliminal message in either the cartoon or comic.
or....both!?
:eek:
 
Lord Siva said:
No, but it's odd. :confused:

Considering that X-Men promotes tolerance among such issues as homosexuality, should it really be that much of a shock that many of their fans are gay?
 
Specter313 said:
Considering that X-Men promotes tolerance among such issues as homosexuality, should it really be that much of a shock that many of their fans are gay?

Gay..black..etc.
 
Hey Lord Siva, for being a heterosexual male, and having such a problem with this thread, (As previously shown in your posts throughout these pages). You sure do like to frequent this thread often. Hmm.....
 
Because littyx, It's so much fun annoying everybody on this thread. :(
 
for everyone's information im not exactly a nerd. i only like watchin the x-men movies. but anyways...i hate when people ask people: how do you know you're gay? its liking asking a straight man: how do you know that you are heterosexual? so yea anyways... i doubt that my family suspects that i am gay.plus, i'm not one of those feminine gay guys. i can find a lot of girls attractive but in a way where i dont wanna get in their pants.

so anyways: how was Brokeback? see things like these kinda bother me! im not open enough to try and watch any of these sorts of movies. i cant do anything fun without someone suspecting something.
 
Brokeback was amazing, even if you were straight you would like it. Its just a good film....
 
Lord Siva said:
Why the hell is it that every other x-nerd is gay ?

Considering that the homosexual milileu is a minority, I'd re-align that view to be more of a blessing, don't you think...?

Actually, there just are still quite a healthy number of heterosexual people who read and enjoy the Xmen comics for its wide, colourful and miscellaneous characters; so I've never noticed.

Thanks littyx for the compliment. I realised that minutes after submitting the post, that I had more to say, perhaps. But that is probably enough for now.

And by the way - I am straight acting. So's my boyfriend. And you do meet gay people of all cultures and mindsets and investments; it's really quite interesting.

Your words, imaperson2 are choked with innate insecurity. That's understandable, but what I had previously forgot to add to my previous post was that I find it is more advisable to tell one of the closest friends you'll ever had, someone whom you just know you can trust, and that whose history goes way back. Inversely, however, it can cause troubling doubts, so I can understand that. But my point was that one significant way of being fortified in the identity and the search for that 'completion' is to be substantiated by a select (or many, in my case) group of mates who know who you are and will have your back when it's your family's turn to run away kicking and screaming.

Okay, I might have painted the worst possible scenario on the last part ;) but still - in accordance with 'strategical' advice: better to have allies than to be alone in every way imaginable that is liable for infliction.

By the way mate, Brokeback was directed by a very straight, Chinese man who grew up in a traditional, orthodox environment, and was the total opposite of his father almost on all levels. I read an article on it, and it was a heartening read.

Also, you have two straight actors who excel in their craft, and if two red-blooded, exclusively lady-bound can tear literal blood and sweat and romance out of each other's life, then you, an unsuspecting gay young man, should be void of said insecurities as far as an audio-visual medium with homosexual content is concerned.

If you ask me, Hollywood and commercial media could use way, way more of those. Gay couples in loving, healthy, long-lasting relationships that is.

The way things are on television and on film, you'd think that they never exist at all (which they do of course, and I've seen or heard of quite a few, to my surprise actually), and sadly enough, prevalent, preset stereotypes continue to dominate.

Television is rife with hospital dramas, and none of them to my knowledge ever[/i] depicts gay betrothed seen to be in the throes of anxiety, worry, fear and grief at the sight of their loved one on the proverbial death bed.

That's just too bad, is it!

Oh, and gay families, too. They exist too. I'm almost on the verge of ranting territory, so I just would have to simply conclude with a resounding statement: can you tell how much vexation I have?

:p

(Although, as a filmmaker, I should take those footprints left behind by Ang Lee and take them much, much further. If Hollywood is out of freakin' ideas - remakes and tepid, sour heterosexual romantic comedies with linear, recycled arcs and so on - there is so, so much more room for extra originiality. So much more there!)

Irony is, the Oscars and the Golden Globes award keen recognition of homosexual, bisexual, transgendered, or disabled-in-some-function-that's-not-so-much-a-function personalities: in other words, 'tortured' and 'different' makes for much smiles and dances. Maybe the 'council' should be the producers of Hollywood - at least while I give myself time and breath to catch up to that point. :p

But, like so often the very key, underlying, hypertexual theme of Xmen - we fear what we don't understand, and because we fear what we don't understand, we're afraid for such risk, and in absence of that risk, we pander to tried stereotypes and formulaic archetypes.

Despair is thus the novelty of life, because it's so damn creative.
 

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