Sequels X-Men: First Class

[zenith16]

the problem with what you just asked was that wasn't really break out acting seeing that the script writers only nearly wrote for one character only. wolverine. there wasn't have much/enough competition. cause the scripts for every one else weren't meaty enough to make that claim.

and did it way too much, which most well no a good lot more then most of us complained about. if it was better written through out the series of movies and the other characters had better spot light which is possible to do but it hasn't been shown in these series of movies and yet still one actor managed to out shine through what would have arguably been the best acting out of all of them cause every one got good and equal enough screen time to do so, that question wouldn't be a problem to answer.

Man I want a reboot bad away from fox. ugh that question isn't worth answering right now sorry.

And I don't mean that in rude way or a mean way, it's just both hard to answer and reminder of what's really wrong issue wise with the films. ahhhh anyway. But Hugh jack man is a great actor none the less. But it's hard to talk about it in those terms your asking for. so thinking of more of the same to come doesn't bode well.

 

[Electrix]

I mean, who's going to be the break out character, center of attention, that Wolverine was in the all of the previous films...

and for that matter who will be the new bad boy?

I don't think we need one.

 

[javphonic]

I think if they're going to franchise the first class the focus should be on multiple characters, like with a Heroes/Desperate Housewife storytelling, where around 4-5 minor stories are being told, but all revolve around on single plot (Maybe less in the film, as to further develop the characters). Then each film shift the focus to other underdeveloped characters whom were set up in the previous film



ex.

XMFC 1-(Lets say they do the sentinel arc, as well as the establishment of the MRA's)...

Major themes
1-Prof X. + Cyke's---develop PX, being a positive fatherly figure who enourages Cyke's, as well assingning the shy student the role of team leader, which forces Cyke to learn his leadership potential, as well as accept that his power is not just utter destruction (I think this could work if his story is dealt with in a similar manner to Peter Parker)
2-Trask-develop the reasons for him creating Project Sentinels (I don't want to sound like I'm recreating Stryker, as X2 incorporated the son drove him to it bit) maybe they could rework his storyline, as he doesn't know his children are mutants yet... On gov. orders Trask contructs the sentinels as a way to protect humanity and Mastermold as the AI to control them. With the MRA's collected this data of all registered mutants are programmed into the sentinels who are simply to round up these mutants. When Trask realizes that his son is a mutant, he tries to shut down the sentinel project, but Mastermold doesn't comply and decides that the only way humanity can truly be sae is to eradicate the mutants

Minor themes
1-Jean's love triangle with Angel & Scott
2-Angel + Mr. Worthington---develop Mr. Worthington's dissaproval of Angel's abilities, as a foil to PX & Cyke's relationship
3-^This, as well as their rivalry for Jean's affection could also create tension between Cyke and Angel, as Angel is jealous of the bond Cyke & the PX share, while Cyke is jealous of Angel's richboy attitude and the fact that he got Jean

In a later film, if they redid the Phoenix arc, it would be an interesting parallel to depict Beasts's transformation into a monster on the outside, but remaining in control, vs. Jean's transformation into a monster on the inside, but she looses control

 

[zenith16]

I never been a fan of triangles. their just annoying to me story wise( I'm guy and hate soap opera's cause most the character are stupid cause of those situations) and if that was really happening someone would have to leave or should leave the team. "friendships are ruined by that kind of crap. "

i mean the normal I'm done with this place leaving. I never liked it. i get what your saying, but after what happen with the first trilogy and seeing reaction for other area's like when they forced it back in the comics, just cause some the writers don't like noraml relationships and even though the fan base voted on the web againt it.

I don't think it's necessary. most fan 's will end up hating a character cause the concept back fires a lot when used. people are smarter then that now. unless your a soap opera junkie then your in trouble mentally there. that stuff turn your brains to mush. blech.

Let angel get his own womanl. way better stories to play with. he has it in him to do so, that's if they allow him to be in this movie. which I doubt.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I think if they're going to franchise the first class the focus should be on multiple characters, like with a Heroes/Desperate Housewife storytelling, where around 4-5 minor stories are being told, but all revolve around on single plot (Maybe less in the film, as to further develop the characters). Then each film shift the focus to other underdeveloped characters whom were set up in the previous film



ex.

XMFC 1-(Lets say they do the sentinel arc, as well as the establishment of the MRA's)...

Major themes
1-Prof X. + Cyke's---develop PX, being a positive fatherly figure who enourages Cyke's, as well assingning the shy student the role of team leader, which forces Cyke to learn his leadership potential, as well as accept that his power is not just utter destruction (I think this could work if his story is dealt with in a similar manner to Peter Parker)
2-Trask-develop the reasons for him creating Project Sentinels (I don't want to sound like I'm recreating Stryker, as X2 incorporated the son drove him to it bit) maybe they could rework his storyline, as he doesn't know his children are mutants yet... On gov. orders Trask contructs the sentinels as a way to protect humanity and Mastermold as the AI to control them. With the MRA's collected this data of all registered mutants are programmed into the sentinels who are simply to round up these mutants. When Trask realizes that his son is a mutant, he tries to shut down the sentinel project, but Mastermold doesn't comply and decides that the only way humanity can truly be sae is to eradicate the mutants

Minor themes
1-Jean's love triangle with Angel & Scott
2-Angel + Mr. Worthington---develop Mr. Worthington's dissaproval of Angel's abilities, as a foil to PX & Cyke's relationship
3-^This, as well as their rivalry for Jean's affection could also create tension between Cyke and Angel, as Angel is jealous of the bond Cyke & the PX share, while Cyke is jealous of Angel's richboy attitude and the fact that he got Jean

In a later film, if they redid the Phoenix arc, it would be an interesting parallel to depict Beasts's transformation into a monster on the outside, but remaining in control, vs. Jean's transformation into a monster on the inside, but she looses control

Well, Angel won't be in the film - at least he won't be affiliated with Xavier. The first time he entered the school was in The Last Stand, so, there'd be no reason for him to have any interaction with Jean or the rest of the team. I can foresee a love triangle, though, involving Emma, Scott and Jean.

 

[zenith16]

bleach. and things will really get twisted when they try and get ride of jean early just for the excuse of that crap of story telling . I might have to keep away for that. oh well. I still want away from this.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

bleach?

 

[zenith16]

yeah you saw what I said and i explained it well not to the fullest of detail why i detest that thing but I'm kinda tired of that kinda of story telling. normal people don't act like that in the storys they make when they do that story line plot. Especially the end result of it.

so bleach.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

yeah you saw what I said and i explained it well not to the fullest of detail why i detest that thing but I'm kinda tired of that kinda of story telling normal people don't act like that in the storys the make when they do that story line. especially the end result of it.

I think you mean "blech" then... as in a sound... lol you spelt something that burns the skin, kills germs, and turns things "white".... lol.

 

[zenith16]

lol I consider that story plot to be a germ to life that needs be burned away, any way lol. so it fits

 

[project13]

From a Lauren Schuler Donner interview with Sci Fi Wire:

What interests you about First Class as a potential franchise?

Shuler Donner: I like kids. I did produce Pretty in Pink and St. Elmo's Fire. I do like those kind of teenage movies; I really do. Part of it takes me to my roots. It's action. There seems, to me, to be more humor, or more potential for humor. I really like that idea. The relationship ... I don't want to get into what the script is about, but it provides a bit of a lighter touch to the franchise.

file://scifiwire.com/2009/04/magneto-prequel-still-pos.php

so, now i'm back to thinking "Who are we talking about here?".

I think I got a good idea:

First Class would be a superhero film/teen drama. It's gonna be The O.C. meets Heroes. The X-Men would attend North Salem High in addition to Xavier's Insititute. First Class would use mutant powers as a metaphor for puberty and the struggles of adolesence.

Here's the laydown for the team:

Cyclops/Scott Summers- The cold,shy and aloof bad boy, but deep down he's a young man willing to help others and has a senses of integrity and honor. Scott is best decribed as "Ryan Atwood with sunglasses/optic blasts".

Marvel Girl/Jean Grey- The smart,athletic 'girl next door' cheerleader. She's starts off as a mean girl but matures into a caring young woman (ie. Cordelia Chase with telekinesis).

Iceman/Bobby Drake- The class clown

Angel/Warren Worthington III- The rich, popular big man on campus

Beast/Hank McCoy- The pupil-teacher at North Salem who serves also serves as a mentor to the X-Men.

They don't get along at first, but they would come together to save the world using their mutant powers. They would be some kind of "superpowered Breakfast Club".

 

[zenith16]

good god how i hatedthe oc. horrable show. the other stuff you said I don't mind. ughhhhhhh.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think I got a good idea:

First Class would be a superhero film/teen drama. It's gonna be The O.C. meets Heroes. The X-Men would attend North Salem High in addition to Xavier's Insititute. First Class would use mutant powers as a metaphor for puberty and the struggles of adolesence.

Here's the laydown for the team:

Cyclops/Scott Summers- The cold,shy and aloof bad boy, but deep down he's a young man willing to help others and has a senses of integrity and honor. Scott is best decribed as "Ryan Atwood with sunglasses/optic blasts".

Marvel Girl/Jean Grey- The smart,athletic 'girl next door' cheerleader. She's starts off as a mean girl but matures into a caring young woman (ie. Cordelia Chase with telekinesis).

Iceman/Bobby Drake- The class clown

Angel/Warren Worthington III- The rich, popular big man on campus

Beast/Hank McCoy- The pupil-teacher at North Salem who serves also serves as a mentor to the X-Men.

They don't get along at first, but they would come together to save the world using their mutant powers. They would be some kind of "superpowered Breakfast Club".

why do people still constantly put Iceman and Angel on the list? it's not a reboot... and LSD has already said storm is in it... which means it's following movie cannon.

as for OC haters... bug off, its actually toted as one of, if not the most intelligent teen drama. It was very smart, and totally unlike the stuff it gets grouped with (by those who don't watch it), 90210, dawson's creek, one tree hill. It was a very unique teen drama.

 

[zenith16]

lol yeah it was so intelligent of a show the main actress hated the character she played as she stated after she left cause they gave her stale story lines each season and the character was uninteresting , what ever to that . the oc intelligent bah.

 

[javphonic]

Remember, my post was an example, not the actual write up for XM:FC... all I was trying to say was that they should follow multiple and different characters throughout the films, should they choose to franchise XM:FC

 

[bullets]

here's a question, who going to be this movies, Wolverine...
(I am not talking casting wise, or him being in the movie)

I mean, who's going to be the break out character, center of attention, that Wolverine was in the all of the previous films...

and for that matter who will be the new bad boy?

A young Cyclops.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

lol yeah it was so intelligent of a show the main actress hated the character she played as she stated after she left cause they gave her stale story lines each season and the character was uninteresting , what ever to that . the oc intelligent bah.

are you refering to misha barton? the one girl no one liked on the show anyway?

 

[bullets]

In the flashback...in X3...Was X in a wheelchair?

He must of left it in the car

 

[project13]

I think I got a good idea:

First Class would be a superhero film/teen drama. It's gonna be The O.C. meets Heroes. The X-Men would attend North Salem High in addition to Xavier's Insititute. First Class would use mutant powers as a metaphor for puberty and the struggles of adolesence.

Here's the laydown for the team:

Cyclops/Scott Summers- The cold,shy and aloof bad boy, but deep down he's a young man willing to help others and has a senses of integrity and honor. Scott is best decribed as "Ryan Atwood with sunglasses/optic blasts".

Marvel Girl/Jean Grey- The smart,athletic 'girl next door' cheerleader. She's starts off as a mean girl but matures into a caring young woman (ie. Cordelia Chase with telekinesis).

Iceman/Bobby Drake- The class clown

Angel/Warren Worthington III- The rich, popular big man on campus

Beast/Hank McCoy- The pupil-teacher at North Salem who serves also serves as a mentor to the X-Men.

They don't get along at first, but they would come together to save the world using their mutant powers. They would be some kind of "superpowered Breakfast Club".

why do people still constantly put Iceman and Angel on the list? it's not a reboot... and LSD has already said storm is in it...

So instead of Iceman and Angel, we gonna have:

Storm/Orono Munroe- The foreign exchange student from Wakanda. She is fish out of water trying to fit in. She would be the 'den mother' of the X-Men.

 

[Project862006]

why are you excited about first class when you know who is writing it

it is like being excited for a gambit film with Justin marks penning the script you know it will end up nowhere but awful

i want xmen 4 atleast we have grown actors playing the roles not some cw teen hearthrobs with super powers

do we really want a soft/lighter superhero movie wolverine was soft enough

 

[Retroman]

I'm indifferent about First Class right now and even more about talk of a franchise of First Class films. There's a lot of new characters and storylines they could explore yes but they could also do that in an X-Men 4.

I guess my excitement depends on the talent they'll get attached to these spinoffs and i'm not over the moon about Josh Schwartz at the moment since i'm not a fan of The OC or Gossip Girl. But maybe things could change with his first major feature film?

Here's a clip from a recent interview with Schwartz....

May 05, 2009
Q&A: Josh Schwartz

You’re a bit of an unconventional pick to write an “X-Men” movie. Did they approach you?

Schwartz: It’s something I’d always fantasized about doing. I knew (producer) Simon Kinberg and he approached me about it. I’ve started it and I’m having a blast, but I’m not allowed to say anything more.

http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/05/josh-schwartz-interview.html

 

[javphonic]

Thinking on it, I think XMFC would work better as a TV series franchise, kinda like Heroes, because there are so many characters and stories to tell, then they could release the origin films periodically and use both to promote each other

 

[javi1024]

but there would be serious budget restraints and cut-backs that there would probably be more disappointed fans than there are now. they couldn't do a Danger Room sequence except maybe once a season, there wouldn't be anywhere near as many powers and huge fights as we'd all expect (Smallville and Heroes anyone?), and id be willing to bet my life saving that we will not be seeing costumes/uniforms if they brought the new First Class-O.C. X-Men to television. plus its still likely to be a relatively small cast of students with a 'Villain of the Week' set-up ruining much chance of many of our favorite characters (villains or heroes) getting proper treatment. they always could change up the rosters in future seasons (if successful) but when does that ever happen?

 

[Heretic]

First Class would be a cross between The Oc and Heroes? Isnt Heroes a cross between The OC and X-Men??? So, First Class will be a cross between The OC and a watered down version of itself?

 

[tryp09]

I think if they're going to franchise the first class the focus should be on multiple characters, like with a Heroes/Desperate Housewife storytelling, where around 4-5 minor stories are being told, but all revolve around on single plot (Maybe less in the film, as to further develop the characters). Then each film shift the focus to other underdeveloped characters whom were set up in the previous film



ex.

XMFC 1-(Lets say they do the sentinel arc, as well as the establishment of the MRA's)...

Major themes
1-Prof X. + Cyke's---develop PX, being a positive fatherly figure who enourages Cyke's, as well assingning the shy student the role of team leader, which forces Cyke to learn his leadership potential, as well as accept that his power is not just utter destruction (I think this could work if his story is dealt with in a similar manner to Peter Parker)
2-Trask-develop the reasons for him creating Project Sentinels (I don't want to sound like I'm recreating Stryker, as X2 incorporated the son drove him to it bit) maybe they could rework his storyline, as he doesn't know his children are mutants yet... On gov. orders Trask contructs the sentinels as a way to protect humanity and Mastermold as the AI to control them. With the MRA's collected this data of all registered mutants are programmed into the sentinels who are simply to round up these mutants. When Trask realizes that his son is a mutant, he tries to shut down the sentinel project, but Mastermold doesn't comply and decides that the only way humanity can truly be sae is to eradicate the mutants

Minor themes
1-Jean's love triangle with Angel & Scott
2-Angel + Mr. Worthington---develop Mr. Worthington's dissaproval of Angel's abilities, as a foil to PX & Cyke's relationship
3-^This, as well as their rivalry for Jean's affection could also create tension between Cyke and Angel, as Angel is jealous of the bond Cyke & the PX share, while Cyke is jealous of Angel's richboy attitude and the fact that he got Jean

In a later film, if they redid the Phoenix arc, it would be an interesting parallel to depict Beasts's transformation into a monster on the outside, but remaining in control, vs. Jean's transformation into a monster on the inside, but she looses control

I would prefer to see (in the beginning of the movie) flashbacks of their: first interactions with prof, former hardships, etc. while they are embarking on one of their huge missions, showing team work and careful obediance to the prof. That way it wouldn't be just another origin movie that follows the chronological sequence of every other origin movie.