Sequels X-Men Reboot

[GuestStar2004]

If they could make up reasons to change character's ages they could find another reason for wolverine.

Did they come up with a reason to change characters ages?

Anyway it depends really since 2 things wolverine gets from weapon X, his metal claws and the loss of his memory, now do you find another reason for him to gain these things again? or do you skip say the memory loss which could take away something from the character.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The thing is the Xmen come with baggage that can't be shoehorned into the MCU at this stage. They are not Spiderman or The Fantastic Four.There is more to them than a bunch of characters with superpowers. They will fit in well in the MCU only if they strip away what they are all about and what they stand for.

Pretty much as while some will say marvel would force the X-Men in the MCU because of money i can only imagine the integrity of the MCU universe is a major factor for them to want to be very careful with and trying to integrate X-Men and their world of mutant prejudice in the MCU world of already many established superheroes of all kinds does kinda take away from that.

 

[GuestStar2004]

no it is not and Mystique is never shoehorned into this franchise.

If mystique is shoehorned in then what does it mean for most of the other characters this series.

 

[Zarex]

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[Zarex]

Why Fox has to reboot X-men with a sharing univers with F4 reboot :

There is zero evidence that FOX can merge the characters from two separate Marvel licensing agreements without the Mouse's approval. If they could, it would have happened already.

In any case, I don't see how it behooves FOX to merge a dying franchise with a dead one.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Which franchise is dying? X-Men? technically X-Men apocalypse doesn't scream dying franchise, maybe fans are having a hard time seeing past certain elements of it all but FOX is still technically in early stages of this new bunch of movies they have planned so one misstep if we call it that in the last 7 years isn't enough to call it dying.

 

[Zant]

Pretty much as while some will say marvel would force the X-Men in the MCU because of money i can only imagine the integrity of the MCU universe is a major factor for them to want to be very careful with and trying to integrate X-Men and their world of mutant prejudice in the MCU world of already many established superheroes of all kinds does kinda take away from that.

I just don't want anyone to turn the Xmen into Avengers lite.

I want to see Hulk fight Logan in live action as much as the next guy, but the bigger picture is just awkward.

Phase 1 of the MCU would have been the best time to introduce mutants.

 

[X-Maniac]

no it is not and Mystique is never shoehorned into this franchise. Her character arc was probably the most complex storyline of any female superhero we got so far on screen!

The only offensive aspect of Mystique's movieverse persona is the lack of Irene Adler a.k.a. Destiny as her partner and true love. In the comicbooks this relationships was the only thing that kept her sane.

I think introducing Destiny requires more than just bringing her in as Mystique's partner/lover. Destiny has a mutant power that would need to be made a part of the story.

I wouldn't mind if Destiny was altered for the big screen to be Mystique's mother who saw (with her precognition) how her daughter caused the dark future of DoFP and tried to kill her (as mentioned in X3, I believe), prompting Raven to go on the run. That feels like a natural fit for the franchise as it stands.

But there could be other ways to bring in Destiny, even in her original comic book role as Raven's lover.

As long as the next film wasn't focused on Mystique. I think that would not work at this stage. J-Law did not bring a substantial box office boost to XM:A and they should learn from that.

 

[Flint Marko]

Which franchise is dying? X-Men? technically X-Men apocalypse doesn't scream dying franchise, maybe fans are having a hard time seeing past certain elements of it all but FOX is still technically in early stages of this new bunch of movies they have planned so one misstep if we call it that in the last 7 years isn't enough to call it dying.

It might be a stretch to say that the X-men franchise is dying, but it doesn't appear to be in great shape overall if you exclude Deadpool (who will likely stay in his own corner) and Wolverine's farewell. I could be wrong, but I just don't see them creating another successful X-franchise anytime soon.

 

[Zant]

They did bounce back somewhat from a far worse situation post xmen 3 and Origins. I think they will be fine if the show the same resilience. Just have to wait and see.

 

[Zarex]

They did bounce back somewhat from a far worse situation post xmen 3 and Origins. I think they will be fine if the show the same resilience. Just have to wait and see.

There wasn't nearly the same level of competition back then in both the cinemas and on TV. And XM:A has the double whammy of disappointing with the critics and at the BO. And it may be a challenge to retain key cast members.

It's not impossible, but a bounce back is certainly going to be difficult.

 

[Flint Marko]

Yeah, the CBM landscape has changed to the point where I just don't think Fox has what it takes to keep up.

 

[magneto23]

There wasn't nearly the same level of competition back then in both the cinemas and on TV. And XM:A has the double whammy of disappointing with the critics and at the BO. And it may be a challenge to retain key cast members.

It's not impossible, but a bounce back is certainly going to be difficult.

Shouldn't be that difficult IMO. They make a good movie and they're back on track. They're getting a fresh take with a new director. And all they have to do is listen/learn from what everyone was complaining about from Apocalypse. Mainly the repetitive Xavier/Magneto story and too much Mystique. Hopefully they pay attention to the wake up call.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Mainly the repetitive Xavier/Magneto story and too much Mystique. Hopefully they pay attention to the wake up call.

To much mystique? in marketing maybe, but really there wasn't too much mystique in the movie at all, infact lawrence may have been pretty bored in the role since there was very little for her to do, no action this time, no attempt at making her complex or anything, she was basically just playing the same character as in DOFP but without the action and darker side.

As for Xavier and Magneto... the only repetitive side to it was Xavier once again trying to talk magneto out of doing something bad, other then that they didn't have that many scenes together anyway and honestly after the way apocalypse ended i can see them turning magneto into more an anti-hero.

Overall i don't think those characters were the issue with Apocalypse, more so it probably had the same issue as Superman returns, it felt more like singers personal love letter to the last 2 movies and the OT.

I get that some people want other X-Men to be upfront now but honestly the issue with apocalypse was not xavier,magneto and mystique, it was more the execution which was played on abit too safe.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Yeah, the CBM landscape has changed to the point where I just don't think Fox has what it takes to keep up.

You would be surprised

 

[EnDz0n3]

I am wondering, are you people disliking Mystique as a character or are you hiding your sexism behind these arguments because you comicbook movie fans are not used to seeing a female character get so much needed screentime?!? these whole 'comic book accuracy arguments' are so selective and mostly fake. Comicbook adapations are ALL re-interpretation of the source materials.

"You people?!?"

OMG now *I'm* offended.

Shouldn't be that difficult IMO. They make a good movie and they're back on track. They're getting a fresh take with a new director. And all they have to do is listen/learn from what everyone was complaining about from Apocalypse. Mainly the repetitive Xavier/Magneto story and too much Mystique. Hopefully they pay attention to the wake up call.

The first step is to get a new writer.

 

[Flint Marko]

You would be surprised

XM:A was a bloated drag and Kinberg is still steering the ship. I stand by my assessment for the time being.

 

[Stan Lee]

XM:A was a bloated drag and Kinberg is still steering the ship. I stand by my assessment for the time being.

I never understood why some people thought Apocalypse was bloated. It was pretty focused on one idea that was set-up in DOFP with the exception of the Weapon X part which reeked studio involvement.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I don't think it was studio involvement, i am sure wolverine could have had an even bigger marketable role if the studio had really pushed for it, so if anything I think singer just wanted wolverine involved because he had been in FC and DOFP.

 

[Flint Marko]

I never understood why some people thought Apocalypse was bloated. It was pretty focused on one idea that was set-up in DOFP with the exception of the Weapon X part which reeked studio involvement.

Well, there ya go
I'd say it was bloated in that a lot happened but none of it actually feels like it mattered.

 

[Stan Lee]

To much mystique? in marketing maybe, but really there wasn't too much mystique in the movie at all, infact lawrence may have been pretty bored in the role since there was very little for her to do, no action this time, no attempt at making her complex or anything, she was basically just playing the same character as in DOFP but without the action and darker side.

As for Xavier and Magneto... the only repetitive side to it was Xavier once again trying to talk magneto out of doing something bad, other then that they didn't have that many scenes together anyway and honestly after the way apocalypse ended i can see them turning magneto into more an anti-hero.

Overall i don't think those characters were the issue with Apocalypse, more so it probably had the same issue as Superman returns, it felt more like singers personal love letter to the last 2 movies and the OT.

I get that some people want other X-Men to be upfront now but honestly the issue with apocalypse was not xavier,magneto and mystique, it was more the execution which was played on too safe while also trying to be abit of everything.

It's wasn't really a love letter to the movies. That right there is just a callback like Captain America's "I can do this all day" in Civil War.

It also plays a part in Mystique embracing being a role model. She sees much of herself in those kids who are struggling with their mutations. The Jean/Scott relationship also parallels the Hank/Raven relationship, as both of them started out of a kindship with that struggle. She sees that they need guidance which was a major theme in the movie.

 

[Stan Lee]

Well, there ya go
I'd say it was bloated in that a lot happened but none of it actually feels like it mattered.

Oh, it mattered. It gave a payoff to things that were set-up in the previous three movies. Read this to see what I mean.

https://creators.co/posts/4145770

 

[marvelrobbins]

if people actully read the actual reports add to that Feige saying a deal with Fox is impossibilty then no reboot is happening.the rumor mill says dark phoenix may be next X-Men film.hardly a reboot.

 

[LoganGambit87]

Fox has dated two untitled Marvel films for November 2, 2018 and February 14, 2019

https://***********/BoxOffice/status/801587638021029889?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

hmmm....

 

[marvelrobbins]

https://***********/BoxOffice/status/801587638021029889?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

hmmm....

I would say probally New mutants for november 2018.Disney doesn't have
a Marvel film there.as for 2019 maybe fox is going to try to release X-Menark Phoenix there.Inless Gambit gets back on track.I doudt Deadpool III:X-force comes out a year after Deadpool 2.

Next X-men film would have to be before the camers by january or february 2018 to met a february 2019 release.I always thought with disney trying to get star wars back to may that apocalypse will be last X-Men film released In May.