The Dark Knight Rises Zack Snyder wants to make a "The Dark Knight Returns" Movie!

[Gilpesh]

Watchmen look pretty faithful to the comic so far...

The ending is completely changed... it looks like there's going to be loads more action... Nite Owl doesn't look like a middle-aged sad sack in a stupid costume...

I havent read 300, but I flipped through the book and the movie looks alot like the book.

First off, there's no freak dancers in the Persian camp... also, there's no stupid Queen sub-plot... so a direct adaptation it ain't.

And also Dawn of the Dead was barely faithful to the original Dawn of the Dead.


So you want a direct adaptation? Snyder probably won't give it.

 

[Anjow1060]

I could go for a TDKR/Batman Beyond Hybrid.

Instead of the mob, I could very well see Terry taking on various gangs in Gotham, such as the Mutants and the Jokers.

Furthermore, I think the idea of the Sons of Batman (no, not that lame SHH group that was started oh so long ago) would be great to be continued on again. I mean, Bruce taking them down in TDK showed that he doesn't approve of them, but I could see Bruce going mad with anger over them operating without his control. Which is why he would allow Terry to work for him. It makes sense. Bruce likes having control of his city and to have copycats working freelance would drive him nuts.

But the whole Two-face plot was kinda lame in my opinion. What WOULD be interesting, would to see if they'd have Gordon still commissioner at that point and knowing Bruce was Batman or if they'd have Barbara in that position.

Either way, if they did do this movie (somewhere down the line) and I'm not always a huge Robin supporter, but they'd have to have the boy wonder/nightwing in the regular franchise first. That would set up Bruce's history of wanting control over his protegees and also the lessons he's learned from it (which would give him that "prep time" edge over Terry).

For those who shun Beyond, you're looking at it for what it is - a cartoon for kids. But what you're not looking at is it's potential. If you'd like an analogy, you're acting like the normies did before TDK came out.

"Oh it's a movie based off some stupid comic books. The funny pages. It has no depth to it"

Bleh spare me. --For the record: Return of the Joker, however fantasy-like it may be with all the computer chip/mind stuff, was one of the BEST Batman movies pre-Begins/TDK.

Before Nolan had it right for live action, Bruce Timm/Paul Dini and Co. had it right for cartoon. Before them, various comic book writers had good ideas with poor execution.

Batman Beyond has a great potential for an outstanding trilogy and closure to the ever ending Bat-mythos. I would very much want Bruce to be dead by the end of a 3rd movie. That's not to say that they couldn't make more Batman movies with him in them from earlier stages of his life, but we'd still be able to say; "That's how Bruce Wayne went out."

- Jow

PS: Anyway you cut it, Clint Eastwood would HAVE TO BE Bruce if they did a older Batman movie in the next few years.

 

[Rasputin911]

I could go for a TDKR/Batman Beyond Hybrid.

Instead of the mob, I could very well see Terry taking on various gangs in Gotham, such as the Mutants and the Jokers.

Furthermore, I think the idea of the Sons of Batman (no, not that lame SHH group that was started oh so long ago) would be great to be continued on again. I mean, Bruce taking them down in TDK showed that he doesn't approve of them, but I could see Bruce going mad with anger over them operating without his control. Which is why he would allow Terry to work for him. It makes sense. Bruce likes having control of his city and to have copycats working freelance would drive him nuts.

But the whole Two-face plot was kinda lame in my opinion. What WOULD be interesting, would to see if they'd have Gordon still commissioner at that point and knowing Bruce was Batman or if they'd have Barbara in that position.

Either way, if they did do this movie (somewhere down the line) and I'm not always a huge Robin supporter, but they'd have to have the boy wonder/nightwing in the regular franchise first. That would set up Bruce's history of wanting control over his protegees and also the lessons he's learned from it (which would give him that "prep time" edge over Terry).

For those who shun Beyond, you're looking at it for what it is - a cartoon for kids. But what you're not looking at is it's potential. If you'd like an analogy, you're acting like the normies did before TDK came out.

"Oh it's a movie based off some stupid comic books. The funny pages. It has no depth to it"

Bleh spare me. --For the record: Return of the Joker, however fantasy-like it may be with all the computer chip/mind stuff, was one of the BEST Batman movies pre-Begins/TDK.

Before Nolan had it right for live action, Bruce Timm/Paul Dini and Co. had it right for cartoon. Before them, various comic book writers had good ideas with poor execution.

Batman Beyond has a great potential for an outstanding trilogy and closure to the ever ending Bat-mythos. I would very much want Bruce to be dead by the end of a 3rd movie. That's not to say that they couldn't make more Batman movies with him in them from earlier stages of his life, but we'd still be able to say; "That's how Bruce Wayne went out."

- Jow

PS: Anyway you cut it, Clint Eastwood would HAVE TO BE Bruce if they did a older Batman movie in the next few years.

I could really dig a hybrid of the two. That might even allow them to stay in the Nolan continuity.

I agree that Batman Beyond has great potential, i just don't think the show ever reached it. And the sons of Batman was one of the greatest ideas ever in the Batman mythos.

Though i wonder if a Beyond film would just seem like a futurized verison of Batman Begins. I don't really want any more origin stories, which is why i'd go with TDKR over Beyond.

 

[Hole Shot]

I have no interest in Batman Beyond making it to screen or actually ever existing for that matter. No offense, just not my cup.

 

[Rasputin911]

^Me either. The show failed to capture the spirit of BTAS. It seemed more sci-fi than noir.

 

[Motown Marvel]

The more I think about it, the more I think I would prefer Nolan over Snyder for a film like this.

Nolan, I believe, would bring his own spin to the party. He would take the overall theme and then play with it to fit his own vision. He wouldn't be a slave to the Graphic Novel - and as a guy who has a few problems with it as a Batman story, I like that.

Snyder would take a fanboy approach to it and I think be TOO faithful to it. He already alluded to fitting Reagan in there.

personally, its when nolan "spins" that i find the most flaws in his batman films.

p.s. if not clint eastwood, then daniel day lewis.

 

[Hole Shot]

personally, its when nolan "spins" that i find the most flaws in his batman films.

p.s. if not clint eastwood, then daniel day lewis.

Clint in his 50's - early 60's may have been the best ever for a DKR movie. DDL is a great choice too, him and Viggo Mortensen are the two guys I've had in mind for a while.

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

Clint in his 50's - early 60's may have been the best ever for a DKR movie. DDL is a great choice too, him and Viggo Mortensen are the two guys I've had in mind for a while.

I agree with both those choices, esepcially DDL. It's be great to see how far he'd go the Batman role.

 

[the_joker]

I love the idea of a TDKR movie. But I thought I read somewhere that Nolan intended the third film to be set in the future with an older Bruce/Batman anyway as he wanted to create a trilogy with a beginning, middle and end. Though perhaps Nolan didn't quite mean retirement age.

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

I love the idea of a TDKR movie. But I thought I read somewhere that Nolan intended the third film to be set in the future with an older Bruce/Batman anyway as he wanted to create a trilogy with a beginning, middle and end. Though perhaps Nolan didn't quite mean retirement age.

I don't think I've heard of Nolan saying that. You sure?

 

[Crook]

Nolan never said that. Please drop the LSD.

 

[Symbiotic]

Willis would be good.Selleck would rock as well.

Would anyone be up for Keaton as Batman again?

Not me.

 

[the_joker]

I don't think I've heard of Nolan saying that. You sure?

Yeah, this was a while ago before TDK though. That he said he intended to create a trilogy with the final film being the end of the road for Batman. Can't remember for the life of me where I read it, but it was from one of those film sites, not on a forum. Take it with a pinch of salt if you want though, but I don't think I have heard anything else that contradicts that Nolan intends to 'finish what he started' and that the third film will be his last.

 

[Hole Shot]

He said he wanted to create trilogy when TDK was in production with a beginning, middle and end. But the third part taking place in the future not so sure about.

However, what he meant by end probably included Joker somewhere in that and that is probably what is going to slow this movie going into production as quickly as TDK did.

 

[the_joker]

^Oh okay. My bad if I've gotten my wires crossed.

 

[Anjow1060]

He said he wanted to create trilogy when TDK was in production with a beginning, middle and end. But the third part taking place in the future not so sure about.

However, what he meant by end probably included Joker somewhere in that and that is probably what is going to slow this movie going into production as quickly as TDK did.

Which leads one to wonder if Nolan/Goyer really did have a 2 film outline prepared that possibly was really necessary to have the Joker back and how Ledger's passing may have thrown that off the tracks. Also, how much time and what they'll have to do to get back on track. Nolan is very much an artist and would have to figure out a good way to fix it. A metaphorical "duct taping" of this wouldn't exactly work. Although, we'll never truly know because they'll never tell us whether that was the actual plan or not.

- Jow

 

[Doc Samson]

For fear of reiterating too many times, I'll just use a prior response that illustrates my position on this....

I highly, strongly, doubt Nolan would do a 4th Batman. Would I like to see it, sure, but in the event he's finished after this next installment, where does that leave us? Besides the fact that another director may not have the same grasp over the tone Nolan did, or worse even, may try to copy him, who would be in it that hadn't been used up to that point? Right now we're all racking our brains trying to find a suitable villain after what we already got in BB & TDK. You keep pushing the envelope and inevitably you run into a very strong case of "diminishing returns."

Now then, let's say we go back to a more Gothic, fantastical vision. Great, but the same questions remain, what will be fresh and new about this that will excite fanboys and the general audience alike? Cool, we can bring in Mr. Freeze again or Killer Croc, or Man-Bat or whoever, but then what? For all intents and purposes, a good majority of Batman's second-tier villains make for exciting and great comics, even cartoons. Following up one of the (presumably, if Nolan keeps pace) greatest modern trilogies with anything less than spectacular could leave Batman back in a very familiar position: waiting to be re-invented.

So then what's left? What's something exciting, fresh, engrossing, that we've never seen yet on film? How about Batman versus Superman finally, done in the correct and not arbitrary way. Or Batman in his older years fighting not only Gotham's corruption but his own inner turmoil, finally seeing what years of superhero antics can do to ones psyche. What about the climax to Batman and Joker's historic duel, which might I add, is the only conclusion that makes literal sense, a conclusion Batman has seen years in advance. Or maybe it's Batman in a period piece, calling to mind the era of a decade not so different from where we are now as a nation, on the cusp of a very unclear future. Make no mistake, TDKR is most definitely one of Batman's most enduring and important pieces of literature. And to deny it a proper screen adaptation is at the very least, blissful ignorance....

 

[Iglius]

Ellen Page as Carrie Kelly?

 

[raybia]

Why in God's name would you skip the entire mythos and go straight to the future of it after a third Batman film?

Let Snyder be patient, mature as a director...and then make THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS in 20 years.

It'll be worth the wait.

Maybe Bale can come back and play the role again or something.

Making TDKR in no way impedes on the entire mythos.

 

[BlueLightning]

About that. I think TDKR must be a untied film, with no conection whatsoever with any other Batman film, just like the comic. Just keep it like a "what if ...?"

That way, there would be no boundaries to make a loyal adaptation.

 

[raybia]

About that. I think TDKR must be a untied film, with no conection whatsoever with any other Batman film, just like the comic. Just keep it like a "what if ...?"

That way, there would be no boundaries to make a loyal adaptation.

Exactly

 

[StorminNorman]

You can't do that with films.

 

[Steyin]

I hate the idea only because I hated the comic, I just don't picture the future of Batman in that light in any way.

 

[Quinzel]

YAY! i'm not the only one who didn't like the comic.
i feel better.

 

[Infinity9999x]

The ending is completely changed... it looks like there's going to be loads more action... Nite Owl doesn't look like a middle-aged sad sack in a stupid costume...

Wait, where did they say this I heard that Synder was going to keep

Spoiler

the ending with Viedt living

what's been changed?