DC Animation ‘Batman: Caped Crusader’: Animated Series From Bruce Timm, J.J. Abrams, Matt Reeves Greenlit

[flickchick85]

What I'm describing is the role of the showrunner, which he is. You were comparing his involvement to Matt Reeves and JJ Abrams, who by every account were both extremely hands off with both explicitly saying they were only there to help make Timm's vision a reality. And also the argument that even made this conversation happen on this thread is that I was talking about how I doubt Batman will evolve too far beyond the cold persona shown in this season because one of the reasons this show even exists is because Timm wanted to do that version of Batman. And since he's literally running the show, I hope we can at least agree that the show definitely won't change that too much unless Timm wants it to.


Unless there's some scandal I don't know about, he really isn't.

And yet, still wasn’t the head writer. That was Brubaker. Wow, imagine pushing back this hard against writers being credited for what they wrote. But we’re “lame as hell.” Ok cool.

 

[Invader Joker]

And yet, still wasn’t the head writer. That was Brubaker. Wow, imagine pushing back this hard against writers being credited for what they wrote. But we’re “lame as hell.” Ok cool.

I'm honestly completely clueless as to what you're even trying to argue here lol You said that he wasn't that involved in the show and his involvement was equivalent to Reeves and Abrams both of whom didn't really do much if anything creatively. I cited to you a bunch of sources that proved that's not the case. And he may not have "head writer" title but he has "showrunner" title which means you know, he literally ran the show opposed to what you were arguing.

If you want to specifically credit the writers for the job they did that's cool but like, that's not what you were doing, you were going "Actually Timm wasn't that involved" which is just false. I don't know what to tell you. I'm perfectly happy crediting the writers for writing the show and executing Timm's vision, AND Timm for running the show and coming up with that vision in the first place.

 

[flickchick85]

I'm honestly completely clueless as to what you're even trying to argue here lol You said that he wasn't that involved in the show and his involvement was equivalent to Reeves and Abrams. I cited to you a bunch of sources that proved that's not the case. And he may not have "head writer" title but he has "showrunner" title which means you know, he literally ran the show opposed to what you were arguing.

If you want to specifically credit the writers for the job they did that's cool but like, that's not what you were doing, you were going "Actually Timm wasn't that involved" which is just false. I don't know what to tell you.

I never said he wasn’t involved, just that I’m not crediting him with it being good? Like, I initially responded to a post saying it was some huge redemption for him, and I said I wouldn’t go that far. Ed Brubaker is the reason this show is good. You can disagree, I don’t care.

 

[Invader Joker]

I never said he wasn’t involved, just that I’m not crediting him with it being good? Like, I initially responded to a post saying it was some huge redemption for him, and I said I wouldn’t go that far. Ed Brubaker is the reason this show is good. You can disagree, I don’t care.

I mean he's still the one that decided to hire Brubaker to write it and executed his showrunner duties pretty well, so... yeah? He does deserve credit for it being good. He did his showrunner job well. That's a very confusing argument.

 

[Sithborg]

Good showrunners tend to actually write for the shows they run.

 

[flickchick85]

I mean he's still the one that decided to hire Brubaker to write it and executed his showrunner duties pretty well, so... yeah? He does deserve credit for it being good. He did his showrunner job well. That's a very confusing argument.

I’m sorry that crediting writers for their writing is confusing for you.

Bruce Timm’s been in charge of a lot of good stuff and a lot of garbage. The difference has always been the writers. Nothing’s changed on that front.

 

[Invader Joker]

Good showrunners tend to actually write for the shows they run.

Personally I think good showrunners run their shows well, which he clearly did here. He knew the sort of talent the show needed and he hired and guided that talent. If he had done a bad job showrunning the show would've been bad.

I’m sorry that crediting writers for their writing is confusing for you.

Bruce Timm’s been in charge of a lot of good stuff and a lot of garbage. The difference has always been the writers. Nothing’s changed on that front.

And I am. I'm also crediting the showrunner for doing his job well, something you don't seem to want to do.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Selina Kyle should've been throughout the season and someone in Bruces social circle

 

[flickchick85]

Personally I think good showrunners run their shows well, which he clearly did here. He knew the sort of talent the show needed and he hired and guided that talent

And I am. I'm also crediting the showrunner for doing his job well, something you don't seem to want to do.

Because I’ve seen enough work from all parties involved to make an informed decision on who’s responsible for this being good. Bruce Timm’s gotten enough credit in life for things he didn’t deserve. I’m not giving him more. You want to, that’s your prerogative. I’ve made my position clear. You’ll just have to live with it.

 

[Invader Joker]

Because I’ve seen enough work from all parties involved to make an informed decision on who’s responsible for this being good. Bruce Timm’s gotten enough credit in life for things he didn’t deserve. I’m not giving him more. You want to, that’s your prerogative. I’ve made my position clear. You’ll just have to live with it.

I'm giving him credit based on what literally every single person involved with the show has said. It's not like I'm stating my opinion, I'm basically just regurgitating what people involved with the show said lol Take his "credit" up with those people then.

 

[flickchick85]

I'm giving him credit based on what literally every single person involved with the show has said. It's not like I'm stating my opinion, I'm basically just regurgitating what people involved with the show said lol Take his "credit" up with those people then.

Good for you!

 

[Invader Joker]

Good for you!

I just personally think it's better to take the word of the people that worked on these things, ya know.

 

[flickchick85]

I just personally think it's better to take the word of the people that worked on these things, ya know.

I know you do!

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

It would be nice to see Catwoman and Papa Midnight again.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

Wishlist characters for season two?

I need The Monk, Mr Freeze and Hugo Strange.

Scarecrow.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I hope they all return except Onamonerpeepaw. He was kind lame.

 

[Kane52630]

I hope they all return except Onamonerpeepaw. He was kind lame.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Scarecrow.

I feel like Harley kinda took his gimmick in this one.

 

[Frodo]

These are some of the villains I'd like to see in season 2, and who could still fit into the 1940s type of vibe.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

These are some of the villains I'd like to see in season 2, and who could still fit into the 1940s type of vibe.



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Hatter would be amazing.

Deacon Blackfire too.

 

[Kane52630]

They should get Condiment King but he just uses the lamer stuff like Worcestershire sauce or relish.

 

[Pennywise]

Fingers crossed we won’t have to wait until 2026 for S2.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

They should get Condiment King but he just uses the lamer stuff like Worcestershire sauce or relish.

Bump that, bring back Calendar Girl.



We already in the 40s, she’s perfect.

 

[J.Drangal]

Episode 6 : "Night Ride"

Another enjoyable episode... but a bit too gimmicky for my taste.

I like that the series brings in some supernatural stuff, but I enjoyed the lore more than the episode itself.
Once again, the writing seemed very... simplistic?

I had no problem with Bruce identifying Gentleman Ghost's lineage so quickly, as the library scene produced a touching moment with the bookkeeper.
But I would have liked to see Batman hesitate a little more about the supernatural nature of his enemy and perhaps investigate about that a little longer...
And, again, that was a very one-dimensional villain.

On the other hand, I loved the final battle, which was just pure old-school pulp action!
And it was nice to see some early signs of Batman perhaps soon opening up a little more to others...

On the technical side, things are still inconsistant from one sequence to another, but the finale had some really nice shots.

 

[Kane52630]

We already in the 40s, she’s perfect.

40s, she’s perfect.

40s