🥊 The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 5

[B]

Ronda was huge. She was selling PPVs on her own. Jon Jones just did 800k buys after being off for another year. That is what makes his situation all the more hilarious. He could be doing a million easy if he wasn't embarrassing himself.

If Jones didn't sabotage himself so much he could quite easily be one of MMA's biggest draws quite comfortably. I think I said it in the UFC thread as well, he is quite possibly the biggest wastes of talent I've ever seen in any sport.. especially if this latest USADA failure sticks & he's give some colossal ban which I've read could be 2+ years if he can't justify where the substance came from.

Yeah, that division isn't pretty either. There's some young, up-and-coming guys but no one's a surefire lock to be the next household name.

Really isn't pretty at all, there are maybe like 3 or 4 contenders & then it's slim pickings at least of known talented HW's anyway.

Another issue with at least the UFC's HW division is the USADA program, now that UFC's got them running sweeps for cheaters it's no shock that there's a lack of freakishly muscular monsters coming through like there was maybe 10 years ago.. now it's more overweight light heavyweights... bar a few exceptions.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He did better than expected because he did land a few nice shots early on. Then still landed later on in the fight but with no power because he was knackered. The fact that he was landing punches against probably the greatest defensive boxer of all time was quite impressive.

You keep bringing up his age. But that's irrelevant really considering we're talking about Floyd Mayweather. He could still school most pro boxers in his weight class. So him school McGregor isn't surprising or impressive. What is surprising and impressive is McGregor not only lasting 10 rounds but making the bout entertaining and ultimately losing because he was gassed not because he was hurt or knocked out.

Have you seen Floyd fight? Like really seen him fight? Floyd didn't fight like Floyd tonight. Its like people don't realize Floyd realized he couldn't be hurt by Conor and just went for the knockout after 5. If Conor had anything for Floyd, Floyd wouldn't have started going for the knockout with abandon. The only reason Conor hit him, was because Floyd din't care that Conor hit him anymore. Floyd probably threw more left hooks then he has in ten years, because he didn't need to defend.

Floyd looked like ****, like he did against Berto, heavy and slow. And still embarrassed Conor and knocked him out.

And this whole gassed stuff is hilarious. I thought MMA used up so much more energy then boxing. By the 8th Floyd was shoving Conor around the ring, while giving up 20 pounds.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If Jones didn't sabotage himself so much he could quite easily be one of MMA's biggest draws quite comfortably. I think I said it in the UFC thread as well, he is quite possibly the biggest wastes of talent I've ever seen in any sport.. especially if this latest USADA failure sticks & he's give some colossal ban which I've read could be 2+ years if he can't justify where the substance came from.

Yeah, which is why this is bad for them. Only Conor can sell PPVs. It is why they are calling in GSP.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Floyd that we saw today is the worst version of Floyd ever seen. Age caught up to him. He lost about 3 steps. Yes, that bad of a performance. Still more than enough to woop Connor tho.

Hell, Canelo would be favorite to beat this Floyd now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Floyd that we saw today is the worst version of Floyd ever seen. Age caught up to him. He lost about 3 steps. Yes, that bad of a performance. Still more than enough to woop Connor tho.

And Conor still had nothing for him.

 

[B]

McGregor didn't embarrass himself at all in there at all IMO, he was a 0-0 relative boxing novice fighting a 49-0 seasoned veteran & one of the greatest boxers to ever live & went 10 rounds with him.

An embarrassment would have been if he'd got lit up like a Christmas tree with hard combinations, dropped multiple times or violently KO'd inside the opening 1st or 2nd round.

The fight was like an exhibition right down to the stoppage, there was no substantial level of damaging punches from either of them. Floyd gave Conor a boxing pacing lesson tonight & that's all he gave him.

 

[Iceman]

Late Floyd KO as expected.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I want to see Connor v Butterbean.

 

[The Endless]

Have you seen Floyd fight? Like really seen him fight? Floyd didn't fight like Floyd tonight. Its like people don't realize Floyd realized he couldn't be hurt by Conor and just went for the knockout after 5. If Conor had anything for Floyd, Floyd wouldn't have started going for the knockout with abandon. The only reason Conor hit him, was because Floyd din't care that Conor hit him anymore. Floyd probably threw more left hooks then he has in ten years, because he didn't need to defend.

Floyd looked like ****, like he did against Berto, heavy and slow. And still embarrassed Conor and knocked him out.

And this whole gassed stuff is hilarious. I thought MMA used up so much more energy then boxing. By the 8th Floyd was shoving Conor around the ring, while giving up 20 pounds.

Yes I have seen him fight. I'm not some UFC bandwagoner. I've been following boxing since Lewis was an amateur representing Canada.

What you're saying is true. Floyd hasn't been this aggressive in years. But he still couldn't knock McGregor out or even hurt him. McGregor did better than a prime Ricky Hatton here. Hatton got schooled then sparked. Connor wasn't even hurt.

You're saying Connor was embarrassed here. But how was He? He's an amateur who had literally zero chance of winning. Most people were saying he wouldn't land a punch. Yet he did land and early on in the fight he did hurt Mayweather with a couple of those uppercuts.

An embarrassment would be Connor not landing a single punch and getting sparked out in round 4.

At the end of the day if we deage Mayweather 15 years and put him an MMA fight he'd get sparked out or tap out within 3 rounds. It wouldn't be an embarrassment for him though unless he went down inside a minute.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Not a fan of either of them, but Mayweather was just in a different class entirely. Despite 10 years gap.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Not a fan of either of them, but Mayweather was just in a different class entirely. Despite 10 years gap.

Thanks for the links, man.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Thanks for the links, man.

What links?

 

[Iceman]

Not a fan of either of them, but Mayweather was just in a different class entirely. Despite 10 years gap.

Of course. Conor gave a good account of himself though.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Anyone else was hoping to see Stone Cold Steve Austin randomly show up to the fight? You hear the glass break and his theme start to play.

 

[Chesterfield]

Even in his prime Mayweather wouldn't have gotten into the Octagon, he's no fool, it took him ten rounds to get this done, McGregor would beat him in under a minute in a MMA fight.

Bro, Floyd didn't need 10 rounds. He was in control the entire time. He could have ended this fight sooner but Floyd decided he was going to play the role of both fighter and showman. He wasn't going to end this fight before the crowd's seats could get warm. For months he's been saying what he was going to do. He was even talking about what he'd be doing in rounds 8 and 9. Floyd consciously prolonged the fight and this was noticeable from round 2. After the fight he confirmed what was so clearly evident and reaffirmed what he's been saying all along.

 

[Chesterfield]

He did "better then expected" as he didn't fall on his face walking into the ring. Floyd let him have the first two rounds. The proceeded to pick him apart for a 6 rounds because he started putting it on him. Floyd carrying a guy at 40 shows just how bad Conor was. Once he started sitting on his punches, what did Conor do other then eat shots from a smaller man who knocked him out? When did he "ruffle" Floyd's feathers?

Exactly! All these silly excuses and pardons for Conor are a joke but expected. Floyd's plan was something he made no real secret of and it was clearly evident throughout the entire fight. Seriously, all that wasted energy from Conor could have easily been avoided and to be frank would have been one of the first things to subvert. Makes you wonder what, if any homework did his camp do regarding their homework on Floyd as well as a forward thinking action plan.

And all this praise about Conor hitting Floyd a LOT, lol really? Yeah punches to places where there's no effect is really impressive *claps* and Conor's supposed great punching power? So why's it that Floyd didn't get rocked much less get KO'd. Floyd ended up leaving the fight with some sweat on his face, Conor's face looks well...

This fight more than anything showed Conor's basic limitations as an overall fighter. Forget boxing but fighting in general requires using your brain instead of solely trying to be a blunt instrument.

 

[Chesterfield]

I guess we just have different definitions of embarrassed. If it gone the way Max Kellerman described (Conor won't land a significant punch, Mayweather will do whatever he wants) that would've been embarrassing. Fact is Conor won 3 straight rounds, landed some solid counters (including that really nice uppercut early) and had impressive head movement (dodging and slipping, not bobbing and weaving). This ended how I thought it would, Conor gassed and defenseless but not asleep or even hurt.

Won 3 straight rounds? Watch the fight again, those were charitable gifts Floyd purposely gave him.

 

[Chesterfield]

Not a fan of either of them, but Mayweather was just in a different class entirely. Despite 10 years gap.

Floyd came out of retirement to walk down and beat McGregor's ass. Conor was humbled.

 

[The Endless]

Floyd would've schooled 90% of pro boxers in his weight class here as well.

No one is making excuses for Connor. But I ask... What WOULDN'T have been an embarrassment for McGregor here? What were people expecting him to do here? If people are gonna say they expected more then I say you're flat out lying.

We're talking about a guy who has had maximum 12 months of pure boxing training going up against a guy who has boxed since he was 10 years old. Of course Floyd has lost some physical attributes, but his experience and ring intelligence doesn't disappear with age.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I saw google voting. 600 000 votes with 55% or so in favor of McGregor. So coupled with Conor's own claims to KO Mayweather in 4th round (lol), yeah, sounds like an embarrassment. Considering he not only didn't KO him, but barely touched his face. Conor's face on the other hand had marks of beating. Not to mention, saved from KO by the referee.

 

[The Endless]

It's only an embarrassment if people expected more from McGregor. I mean, what did people realistically expect from him in this fight?

I mean, Mayweather did school him. But THAT should've been expected. What I didn't expect is McGregor actually showing good footwork and use of the jab early on. I thought he would've just charged in there swinging that left hand.

 

[Iceman]

Floyd that we saw today is the worst version of Floyd ever seen. Age caught up to him. He lost about 3 steps. Yes, that bad of a performance. Still more than enough to woop Connor tho.

Hell, Canelo would be favorite to beat this Floyd now.

True but also expected given his age and ringtime in the last few years. Also at the time it was a genuine retirement so he would have let go a bit.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes I have seen him fight. I'm not some UFC bandwagoner. I've been following boxing since Lewis was an amateur representing Canada.

What you're saying is true. Floyd hasn't been this aggressive in years. But he still couldn't knock McGregor out or even hurt him. McGregor did better than a prime Ricky Hatton here. Hatton got schooled then sparked. Connor wasn't even hurt.

You're saying Connor was embarrassed here. But how was He? He's an amateur who had literally zero chance of winning. Most people were saying he wouldn't land a punch. Yet he did land and early on in the fight he did hurt Mayweather with a couple of those uppercuts.

An embarrassment would be Connor not landing a single punch and getting sparked out in round 4.

At the end of the day if we deage Mayweather 15 years and put him an MMA fight he'd get sparked out or tap out within 3 rounds. It wouldn't be an embarrassment for him though unless he went down inside a minute.

That you think Conor wasn't hurt is rather hilarious. And that he was hurt by Floyd, who he outweighed by 20 pounds says it all. Especially as he couldn't hurt Floyd. Oh, and he did knock him out.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Floyd would've schooled 90% of pro boxers in his weight class here as well.

No one is making excuses for Connor. But I ask... What WOULDN'T have been an embarrassment for McGregor here? What were people expecting him to do here? If people are gonna say they expected more then I say you're flat out lying.

We're talking about a guy who has had maximum 12 months of pure boxing training going up against a guy who has boxed since he was 10 years old. Of course Floyd has lost some physical attributes, but his experience and ring intelligence doesn't disappear with age.

Conor wasn't even in Floyd's weightclass.

That you have to grade Conor on a curve, says it all. It is also why Floyd picked him. Because there was no realm Conor could beat him, and he proved that tonight, by getting his ass whooped by old, little Floyd with the feather fist.

People were bragging about Conor's power. He had none. His technique was bad. Talking about Conor's chin. He got saved by the ref. He has crap condition as well. He showed nothing other then an ability to get beat up by a 40 year old welterweight, who hasn't legitimately knocked some out for 10 years, and that guy was a dude much smaller then him. I mean, for someone who says they watch boxing, you don't seem to understand Floyd at all, because that early stuff was typical Floyd. Except extra tonight, because had to carry Conor a bit. Make it look good.

Conor did nothing tonight, other then get carried for 5 rounds, and then beat up for 5 rounds. Floyd wanted to entertain, he did. Now the complaints about the Manny fight go away.

 

[Iceman]

If the fight is stopped because someone is bollocksed and struggling to defend themselves, they are going down at some point anyway.