🥊 The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 5

[Docker2.0]

Amir Khan to fight Kell Brook in Manchester grudge match on February 19 | Evening Standard
Years too late but should still be of some interest at least in the UK.

They are both shells of themselves. This thing is way past due and it will make nowhere near the money it would have made years ago. Brook by knockout though. At this point, I'm kind of shocked that Khan doesn't have brain damage with how easily he is knocked out.

 

[Iceman]

They are both shells of themselves. This thing is way past due and it will make nowhere near the money it would have made years ago. Brook by knockout though. At this point, I'm kind of shocked that Khan doesn't have brain damage with how easily he is knocked out.

Maybe the KOs are what saves him from taking heavy punishment. He’s often knocked out by just a few big punches (even one puts him on the wobbly chicken legs lol) rather than tonnes like some of those with a strong chin absorb throughout their career.

Yeah, this fight is way past its sell by date. I’ll still be interested to see what happens but it could have been a big fight when both were at their peaks.

 

[Iceman]

Tyson Fury reveals he had two pints of beer before Deontay Wilder fight (msn.com)

 

[HammerDown]

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.givemesport.com/1793334-tyson-fury-vs-oleksandr-usyk-anthony-joshua-would-step-aside-on-one-condition?amp

So AJ is reluctant but still somewhat open to stepping aside. That’s very interesting and could be the start of a domino effect that sees Fury vs Usyk for all the belts with AJ potentially fighting the winner in what could be an all British showdown later down the line or an even bigger stakes rematch with Usyk.

This sort of deal would need a lot of twisting and turning, a lot of concessions by everyone involved but I actually see a decent possibility of it happening. A deal can be made.

Everyone wants the undisputed crown. Fury, Usyk and AJ. At this moment in time Fury and Usyk are in a position of strength while AJ needs to take a good hard look at his next career steps with the Usyk rematch in the horizon. I think that AJ knows that he’s in deep waters with Usyk and the very real prospect of not recovering the belts hangs heavy over him. I think if he could get a compensation, a contract signed and assurances from all parties that he would have a shot at the undisputed crown after a Fury vs Usyk he would probably and wisely step aside and take his shot afterwards.

Now the question is, can they satisfy all concerned parties, it wouldn’t be easy but where’s a will there’s a way and if enough chess pieces where moved to the right spots everyone could get what they really want… a shot at undisputed.

 

[Iceman]

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.givemesport.com/1793334-tyson-fury-vs-oleksandr-usyk-anthony-joshua-would-step-aside-on-one-condition?amp

So AJ is reluctant but still somewhat open to stepping aside. That’s very interesting and could be the start of a domino effect that sees Fury vs Usyk for all the belts with AJ potentially fighting the winner in what could be an all British showdown later down the line or an even bigger stakes rematch with Usyk.

This sort of deal would need a lot of twisting and turning, a lot of concessions by everyone involved but I actually see a decent possibility of it happening. A deal can be made.

Everyone wants the undisputed crown. Fury, Usyk and AJ. At this moment in time Fury and Usyk are in a position of strength while AJ needs to take a good hard look at his next career steps with the Usyk rematch in the horizon. I think that AJ knows that he’s in deep waters with Usyk and the very real prospect of not recovering the belts hangs heavy over him. I think if he could get a compensation, a contract signed and assurances from all parties that he would have a shot at the undisputed crown after a Fury vs Usyk he would probably and wisely step aside and take his shot afterwards.

Now the question is, can they satisfy all concerned parties, it wouldn’t be easy but where’s a will there’s a way and if enough chess pieces where moved to the right spots everyone could get what they really want… a shot at undisputed.

The undisputed title doesn’t mean that much to me when someone wins it with one fight. I would prefer only one belt could be won at a time as it’s not the same if one person does the hard work of beating the top 4 fighters and then gets beaten by someone else who gets all the titles for winning one fight.

 

[HammerDown]

The undisputed title doesn’t mean that much to me when someone wins it with one fight. I would prefer only one belt could be won at a time as it’s not the same if one person does the hard work of beating the top 4 fighters and then gets beaten by someone else who gets all the titles for winning one fight.

The thing is that these 3 fighters have proved themselves enough to warrant that coveted title of undisputed and if they where to fight among each other for that honor it wouldn’t be an issue for me at all.

- Fury is also undefeated, he defeated Klitshcko and won the WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, IBO, and The Ringheavyweight titles. He also defeated Wilder and won the WBC title. He has won everything but never had all the titles at one time to be considered undisputed.

- AJ defeated Klitshcko and won the IBF, vacant WBA (Super) and IBO heavyweight titles. He then defeated Joseph Parker for the WBO title.

- Usyk is undefeated winning everything at cruiser weight and becoming undisputed at that weight. He moved up and won The WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, and IBO heavyweight titles from AJ.

We are talking of the 3 best boxers of this era and if one of them got the undisputed crown it would be well deserved.

 

[InCali]

I think the real solution to the "undisputed" dispute is to have a single governing body and lesser, regional titles within that organization rather than have all these different organizations who are looking out for themselves and could care less about the sport. So, in other words, it's never gonna happen.

 

[B]

Amir Khan to fight Kell Brook in Manchester grudge match on February 19 | Evening Standard
Years too late but should still be of some interest at least in the UK.

This is a solid 7-10 years too late for both men, should have been made years ago.

It probably will still garner interest obviously in the UK, but the interest would have been a lot higher years ago when both were closer/in their prime.

 

[HammerDown]

Fury vs Whyte order by the WBC.

 

[Iceman]

'No skills' - Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder torn to shreds by former heavyweight world champion Larry Holmes, who shared the ring with legendary Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson (talksport.com)

Couldn't agree more. The heavyweight division of boxing has been an embarrassment for a long time compared to the great eras we've had in the past.

 

[P Supreme]

'No skills' - Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder torn to shreds by former heavyweight world champion Larry Holmes, who shared the ring with legendary Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson (talksport.com)

Couldn't agree more. The heavyweight division of boxing has been an embarrassment for a long time compared to the great eras we've had in the past.

good o'le Larry Holmes never shy to pat himself in the back lol

 

[Iceman]

Brook Khan about to start.

 

[Iceman]

Great atmosphere and great start to the fight. Makes you think how good this fight might have been all those years ago with both at their peak.

 

[Iceman]

Brook dominating now. Hurting Khan near the end of every round. Has won all but one round and it’s looking like a KO on the cards.

 

[Iceman]

All over in the 6th round. Brook stops Khan and in the end it was a dominant victory.

 

[Doc Samson]

Hopefully that's the end for both guys. I think both of them are highly underrated, Brook was winning against both GGG and Spence for long stretches of both fights. Khan usually gave everyone good early rounds, I thought he was ahead against Canelo, showed grit and heart against Maidana, but enough is enough. Neither of them belong in the ring with the upper echelon of the sport anymore.

 

[Iceman]

Hopefully that's the end for both guys. I think both of them are highly underrated, Brook was winning against both GGG and Spence for long stretches of both fights. Khan usually gave everyone good early rounds, I thought he was ahead against Canelo, showed grit and heart against Maidana, but enough is enough. Neither of them belong in the ring with the upper echelon of the sport anymore.

Yeah it was a good way to go out if they end it here. Khan pretty much said he’s retiring. The post fight conference was really good - glad to see all this end in a good natured and sporting way.

 

[Docker2.0]

good o'le Larry Holmes never shy to pat himself in the back lol

He wasn't wrong though. I like Wilder and Fury but neither of them could be considered legends. They are only good due to a weak era.

 

[Docker2.0]

Hopefully that's the end for both guys. I think both of them are highly underrated, Brook was winning against both GGG and Spence for long stretches of both fights. Khan usually gave everyone good early rounds, I thought he was ahead against Canelo, showed grit and heart against Maidana, but enough is enough. Neither of them belong in the ring with the upper echelon of the sport anymore.

Where TF have you been?! I thought you was imprisoned in North Korea or something.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hopefully that's the end for both guys. I think both of them are highly underrated, Brook was winning against both GGG and Spence for long stretches of both fights. Khan usually gave everyone good early rounds, I thought he was ahead against Canelo, showed grit and heart against Maidana, but enough is enough. Neither of them belong in the ring with the upper echelon of the sport anymore.

Khan just didn't have the chin to be elite. But at his peak, he was quite good.

 

[Iceman]

Khan just didn't have the chin to be elite. But at his peak, he was quite good.

Needed the chin and a bit more power to his punches. He had seriously fast hands at his peak otherwise.

 

[Docker2.0]

Needed the chin and a bit more power to his punches. He had seriously fast hands at his peak otherwise.

I really thought at one point, Khan could have challenged Mayweather with his hands and offense. Then he fought Danny Garcia and his chin wasn't the same. That one fight changed everything about Khan.

 

[Iceman]

I really thought at one point, Khan could have challenged Mayweather with his hands and offense. Then he fought Danny Garcia and his chin wasn't the same. That one fight changed everything about Khan.

Shame we didn’t get to see that fight. Would have given Mayweather something different to deal with, even if he’d win.

 

[Doc Samson]

Where TF have you been?! I thought you was imprisoned in North Korea or something.

LOL, yeah something like that. Had a baby boy over the summer.

Khan just didn't have the chin to be elite. But at his peak, he was quite good.

Truth. And that's a tough Achilles heel in the fight game.

I really thought at one point, Khan could have challenged Mayweather with his hands and offense.

I did too. And I remember a certain someone clowning us for it. But it's not like most of his losses didn't come against good boxers: Brook, Crawford, Canelo, Peterson and Garcia aren't pushovers.

I always go back to that Judah fight, and how much he controlled Floyd in the early rounds with speed. I'm pretty sure he's the fastest guy Floyd ever faced, and it was throwing him off at first.

Biggest difference between Zab and Khan though, was their gas tank. Floyd knew Zab was eventually going to gas out, which he did. Khan was usually in pretty good shape in later rounds if he could make it that far...

 

[Iceman]

Klitschko brothers, former heavyweight boxing champions, to take up arms for Ukraine | Ukraine | The Guardian

Even braver outside of the ring than in it