"1" Change You'd Make For Spidey 3!

[Kent]

Longer battle scenes between Spidey and Sandman. That's what I'd chose (if I only got to chose one thing). As it is now, the best fight scene is the first one.

Hopefully an extended cut will add some stuff though.

 

[matthooper]

Take out those two kids!

 

[SIXRAP]

If This Movie Was Gonna Have 2 Villians It Should've Been Sandman & Lizard. Dr. Conners Has Been In 3 Movies Now, Same Actor & Everything. Why Not Use Him While We Still Care? Venom Could've Carried A Movie By Himself Like They Did With Doc Ock & Green Goblin. Now We Have A Rushed Venom Story Arc & An Almost 90's Batman Style Film To Finish What Could've Been The Best Superhero Trilogy Of All Time. I Really Wanted 2 Love This Film & Was So Let Down. I Honestly Dislike The Film. I Would Rather Watch Any Other Marvel Film That Spiderman 3. I Didnt Think My Favorite Marvel Film Of 2007 Would Be Fantastic 4 Rise, Which I Thought I'd Hate, But Turned Out 2 Be A Great Film. And Yes Galactus Is Not A Cloud!!!

 

[pjspider1C]

^ Actually Dr. Connors was only in two movies. He was just mentioned in the first one.

 

[Dr. Fate]

Cast a genuinely intense and menacing actor to play Venom/Eddie Brock.

 

[slave2catwoman]

How about getting rid of all the incredible coincidences? That is a flaw in many super hero movies. All the planets just magically align and nobody even notices.

 

[pjspider1C]

I'd get rid of all the disgruntled, pessimistic nay-sayers that ***** about everything that's wrong with the film.

 

[slave2catwoman]

I wouldn't call myself totally pessimistic. I enjoyed Spidey 3. But whenever I see a super hero movie, I know I am almost guaranteed lazy script writing. Coincidence on top of incredible coincidence. Other movie genres don't have this, so why do comic book movie writers fall into that trap so often and so easily?

 

[pjspider1C]

^ All other genres do have coincidences. Nothing would ever happen if it weren't for coincidences.

Specifically for super-hero movies, coincidences are more so a part of the genre than any other type of genre. Think of how many super-heroes that would not exist if it weren't for coincidences. Super-heroes are made off of coincidences - it's an exaggerated reality.

 

[slave2catwoman]

It is simply not true that "nothing would ever happen if it weren't for coincidences". Unless they are farcical comedies, most movies don't use coincidences very much. The Godfather, Cool Hand Luke, Goodfellas, Dog Day Afternoon, Raging Bull, etc etc, did not rely on coincidences, at least not much. Casablanca had one big one, and it was pointed out as such. Coincidence is not needed to make a plot move along. That is lazy writing. Am I supposed to believe that the man who is praying for Spider-Man's death just happens to be in a church (out of hundreds of churches in the city) at the exact moment that Spider-Man is in the steeple ridding himself of the alien costume that in a one in a billion chance happened to land next to Peter Parker (for no apparent reason). Also, the guy who is after Peter's job just happens to be dating Peter's lab partner who just happens to be the daughter of the police captain who informs Peter of the the real identity of Uncle Ben's killer, and Peter's lab partner also happens to need Spider-Man to save her, and she just happens to show up at the restaurant on the very night Peter is proposing..........ONE of these coincidences would be okay, but the plot was chock full of them. Lazy.

 

[dodus]

Am I supposed to believe that the man who is praying for Spider-Man's death just happens to be in a church (out of hundreds of churches in the city) at the exact moment that Spider-Man is in the steeple ridding himself of the alien costume that in a one in a billion chance happened to land next to Peter Parker (for no apparent reason).

Well, he was following Peter. They both ended up in the church across the street. Not too illogical. Not to mention that's what happened in the comics, understandably minus the x-amount of years between Peter getting rid of the suit and Brock getting it. That wouldn't have worked in a movie for obvious reasons. I'll accept that there was some laziness, most notably the origin of the symbiote, but a lot of what you call coincidences were conscious choices for tying a big plot together and keeping it unburdened by needless "how's" and "why's" and "where's".

 

[slave2catwoman]

He wasn't following Spider-Man when they both ended up in the same church. That was just a coincidence. Had he actually seen Spidey go in and followed him, that would have been way more believable. It really would not be so hard to get rid of and/or explain some of the coincidences. But it strains credibility when the same six people's lives keep intersecting in a city of several million.

 

[spyderman2k4]

Mine is Villain character development (which leads to a longer movie).

Show a lot more of Flint and Penny, or just things having to do with that relationship. Show how he's "not a bad guy" and how he "just had bad luck." They try to throw emotion at us at the end with him, but there was no substance from the rest of the film.

We need to see more of Eddie Brock. Him being embarrassed and losing a job and a girlfriend isn't enough for me to believe he wants Spider-Man dead. It didn't feel like he actually had a relationship with Gwen. What were they in, 1 or 2 scenes together? Give me more reason to believe he deep down wants Peter dead. I'd have preferred that we see Eddit torment Peter (ala TAS).

Explain the symbiote better (and the TAS origin would have been better... it was set up by SM2). Have SPIDER-MAN take it to Conners and have them both study it... explain that it read's his throughts/overcomes his spider sense. That might be viewed as 3 things, but character developement is my main change.

 

[dodus]

He wasn't following Spider-Man when they both ended up in the same church. That was just a coincidence. Had he actually seen Spidey go in and followed him, that would have been way more believable. It really would not be so hard to get rid of and/or explain some of the coincidences. But it strains credibility when the same six people's lives keep intersecting in a city of several million.

He was following Peter and Gwen to the jazz club. Church was across the street. At the jazz club, Peter hit MJ and decided to get rid of the suit. Church was across the street.

"But it strains credibility when the same six people's lives keep intersecting in a city of several million."

They intersect once. Then they become a part of the story. I don't get this criticism people keep leveling at the movie; it's absurd.

 

[Web-Head408]

i want more venom!

 

[SurfDUI]

Lose Venom or make him it.

 

[Darth Elektra]

Peter dancing...

I hated that part.

 

[blind_fury]

Topher Grace would play Peter Parker instead of Brock.

 

[murdock_matt]

Actually using John Jameson for what I thought he was set up for in S-M 2 and have him immerse himself in his work after being dumped by MJ - therefore spending lots of time in space or back on the moon where he finds the symbiote and brings it back to Earth. Also begin the movie with Marko in jail and show his escape. Then make the apparent subway death of Sandman and Peter's decision to rid himself of the black suit the end of S-M 3. S-M 4 could then be what was essentially the last half of part 3... but with more time and development.

 

[slave2catwoman]

They intersect numerous times. Peter's lab partner is dating, out of millions of guys, the one dude who is competing for his job. She is the daughter of, out of millions of men, the police captain who calls Peter down to the station. Out of hundreds of restaurants, Gwen happens to walk into the one Peter is in, the first time he has ever been there. And the latest super villain just happens to be the guy who killed Uncle Ben. Is it absurd to notice all these incredible unlikely coincidences? The action was great. The movie was fun. I enjoyed it. But the script writing was weak. Throwing a ton of coincidences at the audience is really lazy writing.

When I think of Superman I, there were very few coincidences in it. Just straight story.

 

[Mr Jide]

From the get go for all 3 spidey movies, I'd have the following:

Have Jeff Loeb write the script
Have the Wachowski bros direct
Have ILM do the effects
Have Topher Grace as Peter/spider-man
Have Erica Durance as Mary Jane

 

[Dr.Dude]

I think overall I'm going to have to say that I wanted to see more of the symbiote Spider-Man.

Instead of just showing photos, I really wanted to see black Spidey in another fight scene; really, if nothing else, I wish he had really worn his costume when he went to confront Harry at the mansion.

 

[Flint Marko]

I would have told him "Keep the dance scenes OUT, and use that time to develope the characters."

 

[Dr. Fate]

Topher Grace would play Peter Parker instead of Brock.

I actually could see that working.

 

[pjspider1C]

They intersect numerous times. Peter's lab partner is dating, out of millions of guys, the one dude who is competing for his job. She is the daughter of, out of millions of men, the police captain who calls Peter down to the station. Out of hundreds of restaurants, Gwen happens to walk into the one Peter is in, the first time he has ever been there. And the latest super villain just happens to be the guy who killed Uncle Ben. Is it absurd to notice all these incredible unlikely coincidences? The action was great. The movie was fun. I enjoyed it. But the script writing was weak. Throwing a ton of coincidences at the audience is really lazy writing.

I wonder how much you actually know about the comics. In the comics, Peter & Gwen did go to school together AND Gwen was actually his first love before MJ. They dated for a quite a while before the 1st Green Goblin dropped her off a bridge and killed her. Her Dad was also a police captain in the comics that was killed accidentally during a fight between Spider-Man & Doc Ock.

As you can see, they have already made some major changes in the transition from comics to big screen. As far as Spider-Man 3 is concerned, they used the characters from the comics to support the story they were trying to tell. So if you haven't read the comics, I understand how it can seem like a ton of coincidences. But if you have read the comics, you can fully appreciate the supporting characters because you know their history.