2008 Academy Awards

[Hunter Rider]

And why is that a problem? Has there been a lot of Burton arguing in previous pages (I only read the first page and only saw one Burton comment there) or people don't like long structured pieces of argument (as far as internet posting goes) as opposed to 1-2 sentence comments like "Burton is all style over substance?"

No, I thought you would gather from the use of "ewwwwwwwww" and the smiley that is was more a joke on my part, if had an actual issue with your post i'd have debated you directly and properly as ive done in the past.
As the guy that's broken up countless Burton fights in the Batboards, the mere sight of a Burton argument starting off just draws that reaction from me.

 

[Cinemaman]

Just out of curiosity, why'd you pick her? She's probably the least likely to win.

There is no way in hell that's beating "Ratatouille".

Can't really say, I also think it's my mistake.

Just watch Persepolis

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, I don't want to start a Burton argument here, but this year's BP noms are very weak (I have seen them all), and Sweeney Todd was easily better than most if not all the noms this year. I really only feel There Will Be Blood deserves its nomination. The others noms do not. ST I feel was this past year's best movie easily.

 

[Darkly Dexter]

For some reason I see these becoming the Best Picture nominees

Atonement
Juno
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood
Sweeney Todd

well done

 

[Darkly Dexter]

If I where to choose a "Best Picture" list it would look something like this

Gone Baby Gone
No Country for Old Men
Zodiac
Knocked Up
3:10 to Yuma

how close do you guys think I will get? 2/5?

none lol

 

[Darkly Dexter]

MY PREDICTIONS

BEST PICTURE

Atonement
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood

BEST DIRECTOR

Paul Thomas Anderson
Coen Brothers
Tony Gilroy
Jason Reitman
Julian Schnabel

BEST ACTOR

George Clooney
Daniel Day-Lewis
Johnny Depp
Tommy Lee Jones
Viggo Mortensen

BEST ACTRESS

Cate Blanchett
Julie Christie
Marion Cotillard
Laura Linney
Ellen Page

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR

Casey Affleck
Javier Bardem
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Hal Holbrook
Tom Wilkinson

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Cate Blanchett
Ruby Dee
Saoirse Ronan
Amy Ryan
Tilda Swinton

Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen
Nominees:
Juno (2007): Diablo Cody
Lars and the Real Girl (2007): Nancy Oliver
Michael Clayton (2007): Tony Gilroy
Ratatouille (2007): Brad Bird
The Savages (2007): Tamara Jenkins

Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published
Nominees:
Atonement (2007): Christopher Hampton
Away from Her (2006): Sarah Polley
Scaphandre et le papillon, Le (2007): Ronald Harwood
No Country for Old Men (2007): Joel Coen, Ethan Coen
There Will Be Blood (2007): Paul Thomas Anderson

 

[fu manchu]

none lol

He got 1 right: No Country for Old Men

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think There Will Be Blood is going to win.

 

[Drizzle]

Well, I don't want to start a Burton argument here, but this year's BP noms are very weak (I have seen them all), and Sweeney Todd was easily better than most if not all the noms this year. I really only feel There Will Be Blood deserves its nomination. The others noms do not. ST I feel was this past year's best movie easily.

Agreed. I think "Sweeney Todd" was slightly better than "There Will Be Blood" and "No Country For Old Men", but it was miles better than "Juno". "Sweeney Todd" deserves to be on there instead of "Michael Clayton". The Academy needs to get off George Clooney's nuts. The guy's not that great of an actor. But maybe that's just bad memories of "Batman and Robin" recurring to me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Agreed. I think "Sweeney Todd" was slightly better than "There Will Be Blood" and "No Country For Old Men", but it was miles better than "Juno". "Sweeney Todd" deserves to be on there instead of "Michael Clayton". The Academy needs to get off George Clooney's nuts. The guy's not that great of an actor. But maybe that's just bad memories of "Batman and Robin" recurring to me.

Completely agree.

 

[JP]

Agreed. I think "Sweeney Todd" was slightly better than "There Will Be Blood" and "No Country For Old Men", but it was miles better than "Juno". "Sweeney Todd" deserves to be on there instead of "Michael Clayton". The Academy needs to get off George Clooney's nuts. The guy's not that great of an actor. But maybe that's just bad memories of "Batman and Robin" recurring to me.

Smart man

 

[Drizzle]

Thank you.

Here are my Oscar predictions (only for the bigger awards, though):

BEST PICTURE
No Country For Old Men

BEST ACTOR
Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will Be Blood

BEST ACTRESS
Marion Cotillard, La Vie En Rose

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Javier Bardem, No Country For Old Men

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett, I'm Not There

BEST DIRECTOR
Joel and Ethan Cohen, No Country For Old Men

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Diablo Cody, Juno

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Paul Thomas Anderson, There Will Be Blood

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
Ratatouille

For what it's worth, I think "Sweeney Todd" will win its awards for Art Decoration and Costume Design.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

I can't comment much on who deserves what, as I haven't gotten a chance to see No Country, Atonement, or Clayton. I have seen Juno and Blood; Blood definitely deserves the win between those two. Juno was great, but I just don't think it was Best Picture material. I would've given it's spot to American Gangster.

DDL friggin' owned, and while I love Johnny Depp and hate to see him lose out again, this is Daniel's year; he really deserves it. Depp will win one day, god willing.

Ellen Page is the only BA nominee I saw, and I really enjoyed her performance but again, I'm wrestling with whether or not it's really Oscar worthy. Award's going to Julie Christie, anyway.

And I'd just like to vent my annoyance over the Simpsons Movie omission. You're not going to nominate the First Family of Animation, but you're going to nominate "that other penguin movie"? Please.

 

[Harry Goblin]

Well, I don't want to start a Burton argument here, but this year's BP noms are very weak (I have seen them all), and Sweeney Todd was easily better than most if not all the noms this year. I really only feel There Will Be Blood deserves its nomination. The others noms do not. ST I feel was this past year's best movie easily.

Ive heard you speak up about sweeney and I couldnt agree more. I totally agree with everything you say, especially about it being the best movie

 

[Bond]

Agreed. I think "Sweeney Todd" was slightly better than "There Will Be Blood" and "No Country For Old Men", but it was miles better than "Juno". "Sweeney Todd" deserves to be on there instead of "Michael Clayton". The Academy needs to get off George Clooney's nuts. The guy's not that great of an actor. But maybe that's just bad memories of "Batman and Robin" recurring to me.

I liked No Country more than Sweeney though.

 

[Drizzle]

And I'd just like to vent my annoyance over the Simpsons Movie omission. You're not going to nominate the First Family of Animation, but you're going to nominate "that other penguin movie"? Please.

You're preaching to the choir. I'm pretty sure the director of "Surf's Up" was blowing someone in the Academy.

 

[DACrowe]

I personally think 2007 was an amazing year for movies (much better than 2006). Maybe fan summer movies weren't up to snuff, but overall some great movies. While I agree my favorites of the year (all deserving) were not nominated for best picture, the five nominees are all good pictures (and I'd say two or three of them are great ones).

I still stand by my predictions:

In a nutshell:

Best Picture-
Who should win: Juno (or There Will Be Blood)
Who will win: No Country for Old Men

Best Direction-
Who should win: Paul Thomas Anderson
Who will win: Coen Brothers

Best Actor-
Who should win: Daniel Day Lewis
Who will win: Daniel Day Lewis

Best Actress-
Who should win: I have not seen enough of them to comment.
Who will win: Julie Christie

Best Supporting Actor-
Who should win: Javier Bardem (barely)
Who will win: Javier Bardem

Best Supporting Actress-
Who should win: Amy Ryan
Who will win: Hopefully Amy Ryan (could be Blanchett, closest of the major races)

Best Screenplay Original-
Who should win: Tony Gilroy for Michael Clayton
Who will win: Diablo Cody for Juno

Best Screenplay Adapted-
Who should win: Christopher Hampton for Atonement
Who will win: Coens for No Country for Old Men

Best Editing-
Who should win: Jay Cassidy for Into the Wild
Who will win: Coens for No Country for Old Men (or maybe the more deserving Dylan Tichenor for There Will Be Blood)

Best Cinematography-
Who should win: Roger Deakins for The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Who will win: Roger Deakins for No Country for Old Men

Best Art Direction-
Who should win: Sweeney Todd
Who will win: Sweeney Todd

Best Costume Design-
Who should win: Sweeney Todd or Atonement
Who will win: Atonement

Best Original Score-
Who should win: Dario Marianelli for Atonement
Who will win: Dario Marianelli for Atonement

Best Animated Feature Film-
Who should win: Ratatouille
Who will win: Ratatouille

Best Documentary:
Who should win: Sicko
Who will win: Sicko

Less congestive version.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Ive heard you speak up about sweeney and I couldnt agree more. I totally agree with everything you say, especially about it being the best movie

Awesome to see others agree with me

Sweeney's snub will have me sad while watching the Oscars

I personally think 2007 was an amazing year for movies (much better than 2006). Maybe fan summer movies weren't up to snuff, but overall some great movies. While I agree my favorites of the year (all deserving) were not nominated for best picture, the five nominees are all good pictures (and I'd say two or three of them are great ones).

I wouldn't disagree with that. I saw many movies this year I felt to be stronger than the best of 2006 (though 2006 destroys 2007 as far as Summer movies go...summer was weak this year, though I wasn't too crazy about some of the 2006 summer movies either). My big problem though is I feel that 4 of the 5 BP noms are very overrated, and some much better movies are not getting their due credit.

 

[Drizzle]

(though 2006 destroys 2007 as far as Summer movies go...summer was weak this year, though I wasn't too crazy about some of the 2006 summer movies either)

You think so? I thought that "Transformers", "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End", and even "Spider-Man 3" were more impressive than stuff like "X-Men: The Last Stand" and "Superman Returns".

But I agree with you that for the most part, 2007 had much better Oscar-worthy films like "There Will Be Blood" and "No Country For Old Men". I can't even remember the nominees from last year other than "The Departed".

 

[Heisenberg]

Predictions
Hopes

BEST PICTURE
Atonement
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country For Old Men
There Will Be Blood

BEST DIRECTOR
Paul Thomas Anderson
Coen Brothers
Tony Gilroy
Jason Reitman
Julian Schnabel

BEST ACTOR
George Clooney
Daniel Day-Lewis
Johnny Depp
Tommy Lee Jones
Viggo Mortensen

BEST ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett
Julie Christie
Marion Cotillard
Laura Linney
Ellen Page

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Casey Affleck
Javier Bardem
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Hal Holbrook
Tom Wilkinson

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett
Ruby Dee
Saoirse Ronan
Amy Ryan
Tilda Swinton

BEST WRITING, SCREENPLAY
Juno (2007): Diablo Cody
Lars and the Real Girl (2007): Nancy Oliver
Michael Clayton (2007): Tony Gilroy
Ratatouille (2007): Brad Bird
The Savages (2007): Tamara Jenkins

BEST WRITING, ADAPATED
Atonement (2007): Christopher Hampton
Away from Her (2006): Sarah Polley
Scaphandre et le papillon, Le (2007): Ronald Harwood
No Country for Old Men (2007): Joel Coen, Ethan Coen
There Will Be Blood (2007): Paul Thomas Anderson

ACHIEVEMENT IN CINEMATOGRAPHY
The Assassination of Jesse James (2007): Roger Deakins
Atonement (2007): Seamus McGarvey
No Country for Old Men (2007): Roger Deakins
Scaphandre et le papillon, Le (2007): Janusz Kaminski
There Will Be Blood (2007): Robert Elswit

ACHIEVEMENT IN EDITING
The Bourne Ultimatum (2007): Christopher Rouse
Scaphandre et le papillon, Le (2007): Juliette Welfling
Into the Wild (2007): Jay Cassidy
No Country for Old Men (2007): Ethan Coen, Joel Coen
There Will Be Blood (2007): Dylan Tichenor, Tatiana S. Riegel

ACHIEVEMENT IN ART DIRECTION
American Gangster (2007): Arthur Max
Atonement (2007): Sarah Greenwood
The Golden Compass (2007): Dennis Gassner
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007): Dante Ferretti
There Will Be Blood (2007): Jack Fisk

ACHIEVEMENT IN COSTUME DESIGN
Across the Universe (2007): Albert Wolsky
Atonement (2007): Jacqueline Durran
Elizabeth: The Golden Age (2007): Alexandra Byrne
Môme, La (2007): Marit Allen
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007): Colleen Atwood

ACHIEVEMENT IN MUSIC, ORIGINAL SCORE
Atonement (2007): Dario Marianelli
Into the Wild (2007): Michael Brook, Kaki King, Eddie Vedder
Michael Clayton (2007): James Newton Howard
Ratatouille (2007): Michael Giacchino
3:10 to Yuma (2007): Marco Beltrami

ACHIEVEMENT IN MUSIC, ORIGINAL SONG
August Rush (2007)("Raise It Up")
Enchanted (2007)("Happy Working Song")
Enchanted (2007)("So Close")
Enchanted (2007)("That's How You Know")
Once (2006)(“Falling Slowly&#8221

ACHIEVEMENT IN VISUAL EFFECTS
The Golden Compass (2007)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007)
Transformers (2007)

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
Persepolis (2007): Vincent Paronnaud, Marjane Satrapi
Ratatouille (2007): Brad Bird
Surf's Up (2007): Ash Brannon, Chris Buck

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
Fälscher, Die (2007)(Austria)
Beaufort (2007)(Israel)
Mongol (2007)(Kazakhstan)
Katyn (2007)(Poland)
12 (2007)(Russia)

BEST DOCUMENTARY
No End in Sight (2007)
Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience (2007)
Sicko (2007)
Taxi to the Dark Side (2007)
War Dance (2007)

 

[Hush]

Well I personally think that Transformers is going to own its 3 awards! lol Yes this is a joke but the big races do not interest me this awards show. It has huge gaping wholes in it the size of Montana. Zodiac, Sweeney Todd, Gone Baby Gone, 3:10 to Yuma and The Simpsons Movie. The academy needs to get ***** slapped.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

IMHO There will be Blood is more of a performance picture. While DDL will and should win the prize I would be very disappointed if the movie won because frankly I don't think it's anywhere near great. Good maybe but great? Nah. No Country is a borderline great film, I would be happy if it won. For my money the LookOut was the best movie of the year but didn't get any noms...so whatever.

P.S I love Viggo but he shouldn't have been nomintated this year for that mediocre disappointment he played in.

 

[DACrowe]

???

TWBB is a masterpiece in every since of the word. Yes the movie is held up completely by Daniel Day Lewis's performance (and to a lesser extent, but still noteworthy Paul Dano's unsung brilliant performance), but the movie was intended that way. There is no conventional plotline per se, but the story of a man's character arc. His rise and fall in the oil business. It begins with him striking oil and ends with him having gone mad, isolating himself and committing inevitable murder (with that personality and maddness), thus ruining his business. On a deeper level it is an allegory about how business drives the American market of capitalism and uses religion to get to people to the point that organized religion in this country is just as tainted and people worship the dollar more than God, if anything else.

And that is just the barest of descriptions at everything going on in that movie. Anything that ends with a scene like that though is truly worth at least remembering and the complexities of Daniel Planview a man who could be a good father and on one level loves children, but his misanthropic hate for humanity and even more his drive to succeed and compete in this market ruins him in every sense of the word.

As far as Eastern Promises goes. I thought it was a great movie, albeit not as good as some of Cronenberg's earlier work. Even if you disliked it, you cannot deny how good Viggo Mortensen was in that movie. He lived and breathed that character. I did not see Viggo Mortensen the actor (coughGeorgeClooneycough), I saw the character of a poor desolate Russian man who infiltrates the mafia and has known nothing of life but misery, loneliness and disappointment. If Lewis was not up this year, I'd support Viggo completely.

And I agree with others. My three favorites of the year were Sweeney Todd, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and Into the Wild. I think No Country for Old Men is vastly overrated and take any of the other four nominees (all of which I like, Juno and TWBB, I loved) over it. But still all five are good movies which is saying something, because usually there is one or few pretentious bait movies up there (Million Dollar Baby, Crash, Babel, etc.) and this year it is a very pure line up. That I can appreciate.

 

[CorpusBlack]

Well, I don't want to start a Burton argument here, but this year's BP noms are very weak (I have seen them all), and Sweeney Todd was easily better than most if not all the noms this year. I really only feel There Will Be Blood deserves its nomination. The others noms do not. ST I feel was this past year's best movie easily.

Although I loved ST, I don't know if it's the best. Unfortunately, I didn't see enough of the nominees to really go one way or the other this year.

 

[bingy13]

No love for the Ratatouille score, I see... I think it's definitely the best in the category, and one of my favorites from this year...