2009 NCAA Football Thread: Revenge of the Computer Polls

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Mountain West Conference Reveals Playoff Proposal to BCS

NEW YORK -- The Mountain West Conference wants to lead the fight for a major college football playoff.

The MWC presented the BCS with a proposal Wednesday to create an eight-team playoff system that would allow greater access to the national championship game to teams outside the six most powerful leagues.

Commissioner Craig Thompson and four university leaders from the MWC announced details on a conference call and the entire 2½-page proposal was posted on the league's Web site.

"I will put this as bluntly as I can," said Tom Buchanan, University of Wyoming president and chairman of the MWC board of directors. "We all believe that change is needed. The current system is not fair and somebody needs to stand up and say that and ask for dialogue amongst all the parties involved.

"Our goal is to find a system that is best for college football."

The next BCS meeting is scheduled for April in Pasadena, Calif.

"I would strongly suggest this will be a conversation topic," Thompson said.

Thompson would not speculate how the proposal will be received, but the chances of it being met with anything other than a resounding "No thank you" from the commissioners of the six automatic qualifying conferences seem remote -- at best.

"We have received the Mountain West proposal," BCS coordinator and ACC commissioner John Swofford said in a statement. "Some of these ideas or similar ones have been addressed before in BCS meetings. We will make sure that the proposal has a full airing by the commissioners and presidents, and we will respond to the Mountain West at the conclusion of those discussions."

The Bowl Championship Series last summer shot down a proposal brought by Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive that would have created a four-team playoff.

One of the reasons commissioners from the Big East, Big 12, Pac-10 and Big Ten gave for being against the so-called plus-one model Slive presented was a fear that any playoff system would inevitably expand.

Even in the SEC and Atlantic Coast Conference, which also supported a plus-one, there are no signs university presidents want an NFL-style playoff system.

Meanwhile, fans and many members of the media grow more vocal in support of a playoff each time the current BCS format, which gives only two teams a chance to win a national title in the postseason, fails to produce totally satisfying results.

Now, the Mountain West is vowing to be an advocate for those frustrated by the BCS.

"This is not a gesture on our part," San Diego State University president Stephen Weber said. "There is a fundamental unfairness here that I think the whole country is aware of and somebody's got to stand up and confront that unfairness."

The conferences with automatic access to the five BCS games are the Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, SEC, ACC and Pac-10.

The call for change comes after a season in which MWC champion Utah was the only unbeaten major team but was never seriously in the running to play in the BCS title game. Florida beat Oklahoma for the championship, while the Utes finished No. 2 after beating Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.

The MWC's proposal has four parts. The first creates a new way to determine which conferences receive automatic bids to the big-money bowls. The current criteria weigh the BCS rankings of teams in each league.

It's a system that makes it difficult for the Mountain West, Western Athletic Conference, Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference and Sun Belt to earn an automatic bid because those teams usually don't fare as well in the major polls. The BCS standings rely heavily on the USA Today coaches' poll and the Harris Interactive poll.

Under the MWC's proposal, a conference would qualify for an automatic bid if its teams have a winning percentage of at least .400 in games against the current automatic qualifying leagues over a two-year period.

Using that standard, the MWC would join the other six leagues as automatic qualifiers starting next season.

Part two of the proposal suggests doing away with the BCS standings and creating a 12-member committee to pick which teams receive at-large bids, and to select and seed the eight teams chosen for the playoff.

The BCS has previously discussed using a selection committee to determine which teams play for the national title and the idea was dismissed.

Under the MWC's proposal, the four current BCS games -- the Sugar, Orange, Rose and Fiesta bowls -- would host the four first-round playoff games. Another BCS bowl would be awarded to a current non-BCS game and would host the lowest ranked of the 10 teams selected in a game with no championship implications.

The semifinals would be played about a week later, with the current BCS bowls given the opportunity to host those games.

The championship game would be played a week after that, and again the current BCS bowls would be given the opportunity to host.

While bowl organizers from the Fiesta, Sugar and Orange bowl have said they would be open to a playoff format, the Rose Bowl -- which has a long-standing and profitable relationship with the Big Ten and Pac-10 -- has been resistant to such change.

The final part of the MWC's proposal calls for each of the 11 major conferences and Notre Dame to have equal representation on the BCS presidential oversight committee and for revenues to be distributed equally among all leagues.

Currently, the five non-BCS conferences have one vote when the BCS makes decisions and those leagues receive far less revenue from year to year, unless one of their teams earns a spot in a BCS game.

The BCS agreed to a new, four-year TV deal with ESPN last year that will go into effect in 2010. That deal was negotiated using the current BCS format. While ESPN has said it would not stand in the way if the BCS wanted to change, the new deal allows the BCS to put off making any drastic changes until at least the 2014 season.

"This is a matter for the BCS and it's therefore inappropriate for us to comment," ESPN spokesman Josh Krulewitz said Wednesday.

The MWC is the only conference that has not signed the new deal with ESPN and has until April 20, 2010, to do so. Thompson said he's not sure how long the conference will hold out.

"Now is the time to have the conversation about change in the current system, because we have a contract in front of us that will extend the status quo for another four years and we want to have the conversation now, not four years from now," Buchanan said.
The fat cats won't budge, but if only. :(
 
Florida State to Forfeit Wins; Placed on Probation
The Florida State football team will vacate an undetermined number of wins, serve four years' probation, and face a reduction in scholarships and other penalties due to what the NCAA described Friday as "major violations" from an academic cheating scandal.

Nine other programs were also penalized -- baseball, men's track and field, women's track and field, men's swimming, women's swimming, men's basketball, women's basketball, softball and men's golf -- and face the same sanctions. Overall, the scandal involved 61 athletes.

Football coach Bobby Bowden would have entered the coming season with 382 career victories, trailing Penn State coach Joe Paterno by one win on the all-time list. The sanctions will force him to forfeit all wins during which ineligible students competed in 2006 and 2007.

It is not immediately clear how many wins Florida State will have to vacate. Dennis Thomas, the vice chair of the Committee on Infractions and acting chair for the FSU case, said only one ineligible player would have had to participate in a game for the entire team record has to be vacated.

"The committee adjudicates the facts and reviews the facts as they are presented. It has no thought whatsoever given to a student athlete's prominence or a head coach's record, about to break record," Thomas said during a conference call to announce the penalties. "We give no thought to that whatsoever."

The football team will be limited to 83 total scholarships in 2008-09; 82 in 2009-10; and 84 in 2010-11; the maximum usually allowed by the NCAA is 85. Florida State self-imposed the loss of the two scholarships for 2008-09, and will self-impose the loss of three scholarships for 2009-10. The NCAA added an additional loss of scholarship from the maximum in 2010-11.

"I must say that Florida State did a great job in cooperating with the enforcement staff in accumulating all of the information that was required," Thomas said. "Yes, Florida State did self-report. They did an outstanding job. We have to give Florida State University credit for that."

The NCAA determined that a former learning specialist, academic advisor and tutor gave "improper assistance" to Florida State athletes who were taking online courses. According to the NCAA, the former learning specialist typed portions of papers for at least three athletes and also provided answers to an online psychology course quiz by instructing another athlete to complete the quiz on behalf of the athlete enrolled in the course.

The committee stated this case was "extremely serious" because of the large number of student-athletes involved and the fact that academic fraud is considered by the committee to be among the most egregious of NCAA rules violations.

Florida State's probation extends through March 5, 2013.
 
Larry Coker is back to coaching..........

He's coaching University of Texas at San Antonio's brand new football team that will began play in 2011.
 
A better headline would be

Joe Paterno secures All-Time wins record because Bobby can't come back from that smackdown.
 
LoL, I forgot we still can't say Game***** around here.
 
Heisman predictions: Sam Bradford, Javid Best, Noel Devine, A.J. Green

Runners up: Jimmy Clausen, Julio Jones, Taylor Mays
 
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I really want to see Lane Kiffin win this year. Ideally have Tennessee be a 11-1 team, losing only to Georgia ;). He is comedic gold.
 
Welp, spring practice is under way for just about everyone. Tony Dungy came and spoke to the Bulldogs yesterday :up:
 
Cant believe nobodys talking about Bryce Brown chosing Tennessee.
 
Who cares. Now if you want to talk about Aaron Murray going to Georgia, I would be glad to do so ;)
 
Ther only player worth talking about from Georgia is Randy Moss Jr...err...I mean A.J. Green. I predict over 20 touchdowns next season :up:
 
In South Carolina news....

South Carolina Names QB
COLUMBIA, SC (AP)

South Carolina is just in the beginning of their spring practice, but already head coach Steve Spurrier has named his pick for quarterback this season.

"Aww, hell I'll do it." The visor-clad Spurrier said during a press conference earlier today.

The 2008 Gamecock season had a revolving door at the position, as Tommy Beecher, Chris Smelly, and Stephen Garcia all started for the Game***** who went 7-6 last year.

The 63 year-old Spurrier, the 1966 Heisman Trophy winner, is excited about the chance to start in the SEC again.

"The conference has changed a bit since I suited up for the Gators, but I look forward to showing these boys how it's supposed to be done." He said.

"Heck, maybe I can get (Kansas Head Coach Mark) Mangino to block for me. Then we will be undefeated." Spurrier cracked to a room full of news reporters at Williams-Brice Stadium.

NCAA President Myles Brand says the paperwork has been approved by all the comittees.

"The committees feel that having Mr. Spurrier playing for South Carolina does not give them an advantage over any of their opponents. In any way. At all." Said Brand in a press release.

During the press conference, Spurrier said that the desire to play quarterback again has been something that has stayed with him for the past ten years.

"Back when I was with the Redskins, I wanted to play. Heck, I figured (Washington Redskin owner Dan) Snyder realized that when I signed Danny Wurffel and Shane Matthews. That was a big hint that I wanted to get out there and get some touches."

Spurrier is expected to suit up for South Carolina during spring drills next week.

Yay! :csad:
 
What the hell for real:confused: Obviously a stunt but he's gonna suit up?


By the way excel when Tebow leads the gators to another championship and an undefeated season that can not possible steal his Heisman from him again. They already did it last year, he should be working on his third by now.
 
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