2013: The Re-Up (box office predictions)

[jmc]

Ah sorry, I'm not trying to downplay how good it is (I haven't seen it) or it's amazing box office performance mate. I'd be embarrassed for eg if a legendary comedy like Dumb & Dumber beat MoS in the same way even if I preferred Dumb & Dumber overall. The Fast series is a bit tongue in cheek rather than full on serious so it's kind of like it's not trying as hard as films like MoS or LOTR to be artistic and that's what makes its a bit embarrassing (to me) for those kind of films to get beaten by Fast type films. Don't know if I explained that properly but not meant to offend.

Fast & Furious is what it is, knows its demographic and doesn't apologize for it.

 

[Iceman]

After Earth just under $10m for the Friday. Not going to be huge then although I don't know what the expectations were for this.

 

[Iceman]

Fast & Furious is what it is, knows its demographic and doesn't apologize for it.

I agree, I'm not saying anything against it at all. Just explaining why it's embarrassing for me to see MoS get beaten by a tongue in cheek action film as I would if an excellent comedy like Dumb & Dumber had beaten it.

 

[mclay18]

Does anyone think that if Now You See Me holds up well in next two weeks (I think it will), that Lionsgate/Summit will greenlight a sequel? They financed 2/3's of the film with foreign sales, and considering the opening weekend made back the other 1/3...

I seriously think this pic will be a sleeper hit.

 

[chaseter]

Superman comes out in two weeks so no...I don't think it will be a sleeper hit. It looks like it did okay considering its budget.

 

[:eek:]

Top 15 worldwide

1. Iron Man 3 $1181,1 million
2. The Croods $569,3 million
3. Oz The Great and Powerful $490 million
4. Fast & Furious 6 $484,2 million
5. G.I. Joe: Retaliation $360,8 million
6. Star Trek Into Darkness $330,6 million
7. A Good Day to Die Hard $304,7 million
8. Oblivion $274,6 million
9. The Great Gatsby $249,3 million
10. Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters $225,7 million
11. Journey to the West: Conquering the Demons $207,9 million
12. Lost in Thailand $202,6 million
13. The Hangover Part III $200,9 million
14. Jack the Giant Slayer $197,6 million
15. Identity Thief $173,9 million

 

[Bruce Malone]

It seems like the croods is this years family blockbuster film that somehow no ones paid attention to...taking over from ice age 2 though ice age whatever?

 

[MadVillainy]

Have the Croods really had any competition?

I mean not to knock it because it's clearly doing well, but what other animated films have been released this year? But with numbers like that I bet Despicable Me 2 will be even bigger

 

[amazingfantasy15]

It seems like the croods is this years family blockbuster film that somehow no ones paid attention to...taking over from ice age 2 though ice age whatever?

The one no ones paid attention to sure, but I'm going to bet Despicable Me and/or Monster University will beat it's box office.

 

[:eek:]

'Man Of Steel' Outpacing Other Summer 2013 Blockbusters On Fandango

on June 05, 2013

Fandango tells BoxOffice that Man of Steel is outpacing all other Summer 2013 releases at the same point in the release cycle. That could be VERY good news for the Warner Bros. release.
The superhero flick is today's top selling film on Fandango, putting it ahead of Friday's new releases: The Purge and The Internship.
BoxOffice is currently forecasting a $112 million opening for Man of Steel, but that could change by next week. Even $112 million would be a huge success for a series reboot. Fans tend to approach new versions of familiar stories with some caution. For instance, it's very import to remember that Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins opened to a modest $48.7 million in 2005. Of course, glowing word of mouth quickly spread and it helped launch the property to new heights.

 

[mclay18]

After Earth is trailing John Carter by $3M at this point. I think it might make less than JC did (provided the weekend drops are similar)... not a good sign for Will Smith or M. Night Shyamalan.

 

[Iceman]

After Earth is trailing John Carter by $3M at this point. I think it might make less than JC did (provided the weekend drops are similar)... not a good sign for Will Smith or M. Night Shyamalan.

Bad for Will Smith. Shyamalan was finished a while ago.

 

[Warhammer]

I wouldn't say it's bad for Will Smith. Box office bombs happen sometimes. Nobody has had as many consecutive blockbusters like him in history. He just needs to pick better roles (holy s***, stop making us wait for Bad Boys 3).

However, it is worse for Shyamalan. And his career was already on life support.

 

[jacobed]

After Earth also made less money than John Carter because it came out in summer a week after Fast 6. Really bad comparison used to try and hate on the movie

 

[Doctor Jones]

'Man Of Steel' Outpacing Other Summer 2013 Blockbusters On Fandango

on June 05, 2013

Fandango tells BoxOffice that Man of Steel is outpacing all other Summer 2013 releases at the same point in the release cycle. That could be VERY good news for the Warner Bros. release.
The superhero flick is today's top selling film on Fandango, putting it ahead of Friday's new releases: The Purge and The Internship.
BoxOffice is currently forecasting a $112 million opening for Man of Steel, but that could change by next week. Even $112 million would be a huge success for a series reboot. Fans tend to approach new versions of familiar stories with some caution. For instance, it's very import to remember that Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins opened to a modest $48.7 million in 2005. Of course, glowing word of mouth quickly spread and it helped launch the property to new heights.

$112 million would be fantastic. God, I hope this happens. The fact it surpasses Batman Begins and Superman Returns, without taking inflation into account is great news for a character no longer thought to be relevant. Then again, the following weeks are another test.

 

[:eek:]

Friday Update #3: The latest Friday numbers indicate that The Purge could hit $32 million during its debut frame. If the horror flick surges late on Friday then $35 million could definitely be a reality.

Not bad for a movie with a $3 million production budget. Could be the next Saw or Paranormal Activity, so get ready for The Purge 2, 3, 4...

 

[jacobed]

Its a concept that you could easily do as many sequels as you want and they could always stay interesting with the right director

 

[Marvin]

Fast & Furious is what it is, knows its demographic and doesn't apologize for it.

If only people could simply accept or rather admit the same about bay movies. There would be alot less rants on the internet.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If only people could simply accept or rather admit the same about bay movies. There would be alot less rants on the internet.

But Transformers isn't just cars and hot chicks.

It's actually science fiction so why should it be reduced to Nascar, porn, farts and demolition.

If Bay thinks the Transformers premise is weak then don't use that title for his cheap nascar/porn/fart/demolition ”movies”.

That way you avoid rants/backlash like Fast and Furious does.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If Bay's fans are annoyed with disgruntled TF fans who overvalue the TF brand...

Base the movie on Go Bots and see if you make billions.

It should be easy since the premise is the same and all that.

or maybe Battleship.

Oh...wait.

 

[Marvin]

GIJoe was a bigger yet similar brand than TF a few years ago. Had a bigger budget and stars...I wonder what the singular difference was.
@ the silly idea that TF made it's money from it's brand alone.

TF is at it's root a saturday morning toy commercial. Fast and furious however, is about real life criminal activity involving impoverished minorities mainly from the south west culture, trying to get get ahead at the same time giving the middle finger to the man in charge. Why that film has been reduced to close up of short skirts, over the top plots that make no sense and 10 jokes a minute if what it is. I could just as easily argue that this film could have been City of God and throw a tantrum.

However it's not based on some brand we loved when we were kids so as far as the genre community is concerned, it's "a good time" The sad thing is in this particular case BO office numbers really do tell a clear story.

Like my sig says, ask an 8 year old what they think of all this and call it a day.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Like my sig says, ask an 8 year old what they think of all this and call it a day.

lmao

Why would I ask an 8 year old?

They think Jar Jar is a better character than Yoda and Darth Vader.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

GIJoe was a bigger yet similar brand than TF a few years ago. Had a bigger budget and stars...I wonder what the singular difference was.
@ the silly idea that TF made it's money from it's brand alone.

The GI Joe concept simply doesn't offer the same big screen spectacle as giant warrior machines.

A better comparison is Go Bots.

Surely since Go Bots is the same exact basic premise as Transformers, Hollywood make a multi-billion dollar franchise from it.

Surely.

and if Transformers is such a silly, childish concept with a useless fanbase why not call the movie Giant Farting Robots and call it a day? They could save millions in franchising fees needed to pay Hasbro and you don't have to worry about any backlash from a loyal fanbase.

So why use the Transformer name and characters? What's the advantage?

 

[Marvin]

lmao

Why would I ask an 8 year old?

They think Jar Jar is a better character than Yoda and Darth Vader.

Cause not only was it the 8 year olds that supported it back when "we" adults didn't. But it was also the 8 year olds that it was made for and because of.

Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that corny morning cartoon existed because of the 18 plus GA, my young mother of the time had no interest. And just because those kids are grown now doesn't mean the material needs to cater to that fact. If they made a Sesame Street movie, I wouldn't want it to be as complex as mean streets just because that's how complex I am now.

The GI Joe concept simply doesn't offer the same big screen spectacle as giant warrior machines.

That's awfully convenient. It makes me beg the question of how many other concepts don't offer the same "big screen spectacle as giant warrior machines." I suppose Bond and Pirates are in that boat as well

Sorry but I'm willing to bet if the roles were reversed and Bay and Stephen S switched properties that it would be Joe's that fanboys rally against today and it would be Joe that would be be one of the most successful franchises today. But that's just my assumption. Joe had just as much potential as TF. It had big silly concepts and sold just as many toys if not more. And what's more, it was easier to make.

A better comparison is Go Bots.

Surely since Go Bots is the same exact basic premise as Transformers, Hollywood make a multi-billion dollar franchise from it.

Surely.

If bay made GoBots starring Shia and his car, I'm sure it would have been a hit.

and if Transformers is such a silly, childish concept with a useless fanbase why not call the movie Giant Farting Robots and call it a day? They could save millions in franchising fees needed to pay Hasbro and you don't have to worry about any backlash from a loyal fanbase.

So why use the Transformer name and characters? What's the advantage?

Because, and this may be hard to accept, it's actually pretty loyal to the source material. Right down to the "giant farting robots"
It's that simple. Optimus vs Megatron settling their differences on earth having left cybertron. Not sure what else they should have called it.

There are changes here and there but then again, since when are Ra's and Ducard the same person and Bruce Wayne a love sick mal content...etc.
It happens.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Cause not only was it the 8 year olds that supported it back when "we" adults didn't. But it was also the 8 year olds that it was made for and because of.

Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that corny morning cartoon existed because of the 18 plus GA of today. And just because they are grown now doesn't mean the material doesn't needs to cater to that fact.

Let's not kid ourselves into thinking a cartoon and comic book about alien machines alive in every redeeming sense who fight a civil war against military tyranny is just as basic as Pokemon, Power Rangers, Thomas the Tank Engine or Scooby Doo.

That's awfully convenient. It makes me beg the question of how many concepts don't offer the same "big screen spectacle as giant warrior machines." I suppose Bond and Pirates are in that boat as well

James Bond and POTC are different genres.

GI Joe, Transformers and Go Bots are all 80's "toy commercials".

Sorry but I'm willing to bet if the roles were reversed and Bay and SS switched properties that it would be Joe's that fanboys rally against today and it would be Joe that would be be one of the most successful franchises today. But that's just my assumption. Joe had just as much potential as TF. It had big silly concepts and sold just as many toys if not more.

Why didn't Pain and Gain or The Island make a billion?

Bay directed them. Did he not?

Maybe GI Joe would've been more successful under Bay but it's no guarantee.

If bay made GoBots starring Shia and his car, I'm sure it would have been a hit.

I'd love to see that happen cause I'm certain there would be a disconnect with the general public. Even before Bayformers, Optimus Prime was a household name. Hardly anyone can name a single character from Go Bots.

It's like expecting Marmaduke to catch on like Alvin and the Chipmunks.

Because, and this may be hard to accept, it's actually pretty loyal to the source material. Right down to the "Batman credit card"
It's that simple. Batman/Robin vs Mr Freeze settling their differences in Gotham. Not sure what else they should have called it.
.

Fixed

As you can see your defense of Bayformers could be used to defend Joel Schumacher's tacky Batman movies.

Which fits because they both cheat the audience.