The Dark Knight Rises 6 Minutes of TDKR footage attached to Mission Impossible 4! - - - - Part 13

[Sawyer]

Pfft...saying anything is "wrong", whether opinion or fact is pretty moot.

There are a variety of tangible elements to a movie that are used to qualitatively measure its merit.

You're wrong.

 

[Micromind]

Is anyone else getting tired of all these special effects driven movies coming out next year (Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man, Wrath of Titans,Prometheus, Hobbit) there are several movies that rely on sfx wow factor to attract audiences, I feel that regular movies that focus on story and real world setting with a little f x, like TDKR would be less appreciated, as young generation wants to go to popcorn entertainment movies with big CGI effects.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

You're wrong.

Moot dammit.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Is anyone else getting tired of all these special effects driven movies coming out next year (Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man, Wrath of Titans,Prometheus, Hobbit) there are several movies that rely on sfx wow factor to attract audiences, I feel that regular movies that focus on story and real world setting with a little f x, like TDKR would be less appreciated, as young generation wants to go to popcorn entertainment movies with big CGI effects.

You sound like an old man..

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Is anyone else getting tired of all these special effects driven movies coming out next year (Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man, Wrath of Titans,Prometheus, Hobbit) there are several movies that rely on sfx wow factor to attract audiences, I feel that regular movies that focus on story and real world setting with a little f x, like TDKR would be less appreciated, as young generation wants to go to popcorn entertainment movies with big CGI effects.

Disagree about these two only being CGI/SFX-driven.

 

[Travesty]

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[KRIM]

Is anyone else getting tired of all these special effects driven movies coming out next year (Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man, Wrath of Titans,Prometheus, Hobbit) there are several movies that rely on sfx wow factor to attract audiences, I feel that regular movies that focus on story and real world setting with a little f x, like TDKR would be less appreciated, as young generation wants to go to popcorn entertainment movies with big CGI effects.

I don't know on Earth you managed to separate TDKR as the one blockbuster that is story driven and having little SFX, compared to the rest of its peers.

It is very fortunate this post has comfort behind the borders of bat-territory. It would have been torn to shreds everywhere else.

 

[Micromind]

I don't know on Earth you managed to separate TDKR as the one blockbuster that is story driven and having little SFX, compared to the rest of its peers.

It is very fortunate this post has comfort behind the borders of bat-territory. It would have been torn to shreds everywhere else.

It not about comparing the Bat movies to CGI heavy movies, I just think that this trend of releasing effects driven summer movies is growing and that can be detrimental to regular actions flicks.

I would be happy if GA can take whatever is the best out there. We will know what happens in 2012.

 

[KRIM]

It not about comparing the Bat movies to CGI heavy movies,

Well you just did by singling out TDKR, did you not?

I just think that this trend of releasing effects driven summer movies is growing and that can be detrimental to regular actions flicks.

The modern action movie is effects driven, so I'm unsure as to what is at risk. It's not as if it has a particular prestige in the first place. Most are generally considered fluff entertainment.

The story driven films, in any genre, are the rare gems.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Am I so spoiled that now all I can think about is the next trailer that'll come out around april/march?

Jesus. The new trailer was great, but my brain keeps saying more more more. I think there is partially a part that feels underwhelmed maybe, but that's probably due to my own overreation and hype surrounding the film.

I wish I could just be satisfied. By all rights I should be. The hell is wrong with me? I loved the new trailer. I loved the prologue. We have some stills. We have a teaser. Lots of interviews with the cast. This should be enough....but I still feel like there's that certain oomph that's been lacking. I was so satisfied after The Dark Knight's trailer. Why isn't it setting in yet?

Uh oh. This isn't a good sign.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

No, no, I am satisfied.

 

[Micromind]

Am I so spoiled that now all I can think about is the next trailer that'll come out around april/march?

Jesus. The new trailer was great, but my brain keeps saying more more more. I think there is partially a part that feels underwhelmed maybe, but that's probably due to my own overreation and hype surrounding the film.

I wish I could just be satisfied. By all rights I should be. The hell is wrong with me? I loved the new trailer. I loved the prologue. We have some stills. We have a teaser. Lots of interviews with the cast. This should be enough....but I still feel like there's that certain oomph that's been lacking. I was so satisfied after The Dark Knight's trailer. Why isn't it setting in yet?

Uh oh. This isn't a good sign.

I think that the problem (to some) can be Bane's mask, In TDK Joker was not masked villain, he was seen talking and saying some lines, but here we cannot see Bane's full face while he speaks, that is contributing to the feeling that we are missing something.

 

[KalMart]

I would never generalize. Neither should anyone place everyone and assume that out of all the people in the world, at least one of those people can't think a film that's deemed bad is good. That's the beauty of film.

Can you find a critic who thought it was a good film?

Heck....does anyone here think it was a good film?

 

[Ultimatehero]

I really like how standing up for some dude launched a heck of a lot of pages lol. Oh and I stick by what I said originally. Some movies are made to entertain. Others to provoke thought. Others to educate. Some people like oranges, others like popcorn. Is an orange better than popcorn? Maybe to some. Is popcorn better than an orange? Maybe to others. I'm going with food because that is the most abstract. Actually being in the film industry, it'd just not feel right going after just one type of audience - that would exclude everyone else.

However, I do believe each film should be held up to the merits of what it is trying to accomplish. For example, some people may love Jurassic Park but absolutely hate Citizen Kane considering it boring. While others may love Citizen Kane but consider Jurassic Park to be effects filled junk. However both films, within their own merits accomplished what they set out to do and at the highest standard possible in reaching an audience. That's why they have both stood the test of time.

That's what really struck me with those two users. One was saying one guy was wrong for liking entertaining films, while he was personally going after films of a more indie or dramatic nature. That showed a clear division in audience and target demographic. It was basically mute point. Of course they were going to see things differently. How could they not? Their opinions would largely differ in books, internet sites, tv shows, EVERYTHING as well.

A film sets out to target a specific audience. And if it attains that audience successfully on a broad scale? Then yes, I consider it successful. However, on that same note, if a film sets out to attract a specific audience yet doesn't reach them - I'd consider this a backfire. Some might like the backfire, I'll accept that. All people are different. But a indie/drama guy and a popcorn guy obviously will rarely if ever see things the same way because at conception - they're just two completely different targets. Some times, in some things they overlap, but this is speaking in a much broader scale.

Working and being in an actual top film studio building, with this - I know what I'm talking about with this whole target audience and conception of an idea to releasing it to the big screen thing.

Another word to the wise - WB, FOX, SONY, UNIVERSAL - are not in constant competition dudes. We help each other out. Box office - is a competition sorta since we all want business. But prior to that? We're all amigos.

 

[KalMart]

It's just a movie, folks.

 

[Micromind]

Some people like oranges, others like popcorn. Is an orange better than popcorn? Maybe to some. Is popcorn better than an orange? Maybe to others.

But studios will like whatever brings in cash from Box Office, if Popcorn does that then they will be selling that, oranges be damned.

 

[KalMart]

But studios will like whatever brings in cash from Box Office, if Popcorn does that then they will be selling that, oranges be damned.

Well...if they're paying for the popcorn to be grown, prepped, and popped.....

 

[Ultimatehero]

But studios will like whatever brings in cash from Box Office, if Popcorn does that then they will be selling that, oranges be damned.

This is an opinion thing dude, it's late - kinda tired - don't really feel like getting into the whole big scale studio vs. indie studio thing lol which I've also seen play out first hand. We just want people to be happy, lmaol. Even if that's us lol. Corny, but true. It's a business on both big studio and indie end, I'll leave that to you guys to try to comprehend - some people get that, some people sadly don't.

 

[CelticPredator]

Can you find a critic who thought it was a good film?

Heck....does anyone here think it was a good film?

Good? No. But if you're talking about TF2, I will watch it.

I really like how standing up for some dude launched a heck of a lot of pages lol. Oh and I stick by what I said originally. Some movies are made to entertain. Others to provoke thought. Others to educate. Some people like oranges, others like popcorn. Is an orange better than popcorn? Maybe to some. Is popcorn better than an orange? Maybe to others. I'm going with food because that is the most abstract. Actually being in the film industry, it'd just not feel right going after just one type of audience - that would exclude everyone else.

However, I do believe each film should be held up to the merits of what it is trying to accomplish. For example, some people may love Jurassic Park but absolutely hate Citizen Kane considering it boring. While others may love Citizen Kane but consider Jurassic Park to be effects filled junk. However both films, within their own merits accomplished what they set out to do and at the highest standard possible in reaching an audience. That's why they have both stood the test of time.

That's what really struck me with those two users. One was saying one guy was wrong for liking entertaining films, while he was personally going after films of a more indie or dramatic nature. That showed a clear division in audience and target demographic. It was basically mute point. Of course they were going to see things differently. How could they not? Their opinions would largely differ in books, internet sites, tv shows, EVERYTHING as well.

A film sets out to target a specific audience. And if it attains that audience successfully on a broad scale? Then yes, I consider it successful. However, on that same note, if a film sets out to attract a specific audience yet doesn't reach them - I'd consider this a backfire. Some might like the backfire, I'll accept that. All people are different. But a indie/drama guy and a popcorn guy obviously will rarely if ever see things the same way because at conception - they're just two completely different targets. Some times, in some things they overlap, but this is speaking in a much broader scale.

Working and being in an actual top film studio building, with this - I know what I'm talking about with this whole target audience and conception of an idea to releasing it to the big screen thing.

Another word to the wise - WB, FOX, SONY, UNIVERSAL - are not in constant competition dudes. We help each other out. Box office - is a competition sorta since we all want business. But prior to that? We're all amigos.

Damn right. I have to be blunt here because everyone takes it too seriously.

I love Citizen Kane AND Jurassic Park. Both movies are fantastic. And work on all the levels they should.

Is anyone else getting tired of all these special effects driven movies coming out next year (Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man, Wrath of Titans,Prometheus, Hobbit) there are several movies that rely on sfx wow factor to attract audiences, I feel that regular movies that focus on story and real world setting with a little f x, like TDKR would be less appreciated, as young generation wants to go to popcorn entertainment movies with big CGI effects.

TDKR is going to have a ton of CGI. And no, TDKR will not go unappreciated. Every kid around 15-25 is PUMPED for TDKR. Because those films appeal to a mass audience.

 

[BestGirl]

Am I so spoiled that now all I can think about is the next trailer that'll come out around april/march?

Jesus. The new trailer was great, but my brain keeps saying more more more. I think there is partially a part that feels underwhelmed maybe, but that's probably due to my own overreation and hype surrounding the film.

I wish I could just be satisfied. By all rights I should be. The hell is wrong with me? I loved the new trailer. I loved the prologue. We have some stills. We have a teaser. Lots of interviews with the cast. This should be enough....but I still feel like there's that certain oomph that's been lacking. I was so satisfied after The Dark Knight's trailer. Why isn't it setting in yet?

Uh oh. This isn't a good sign.

I have a similar feeling of impatience as you, I think because the bootleg came out so early and I watched it so many times before the official version found its way online. I mean, the trailer's only been out for two or three days and it already feels old.

I think that the problem (to some) can be Bane's mask, In TDK Joker was not masked villain, he was seen talking and saying some lines, but here we cannot see Bane's full face while he speaks, that is contributing to the feeling that we are missing something.

Maybe, but I think the bigger problem is that Bane has so few lines in the trailer. TDK's trailer #2 was basically a Jokerfest; we didn't get to see or hear anywhere near as much of Bane.

 

[AnneFan]

TDKR is going to have a ton of CGI. And no, TDKR will not go unappreciated. Every kid around 15-25 is PUMPED for TDKR. Because those films appeal to a mass audience.

And the youngsters will appreciate it a lot more when they get older.

 

[CelticPredator]

I think they appreciate it quite well already.

 

[KalMart]

And the youngsters will appreciate it a lot more when they get older.

They'll probably still like their rebooted version of Batman better, though. t:

 

[AnneFan]

I think they appreciate it quite well already.

I'm talking about the younger kids, who you know, love Batman but don't pick up on all the themes or in depth stuff, and are all about the action.

 

[Conebone69]

Good? No. But if you're talking about TF2, I will watch it.




Damn right. I have to be blunt here because everyone takes it too seriously.

I love Citizen Kane AND Jurassic Park. Both movies are fantastic. And work on all the levels they should.



TDKR is going to have a ton of CGI. And no, TDKR will not go unappreciated. Every kid around 15-25 is PUMPED for TDKR. Because those films appeal to a mass audience.

Ton of CGI? What are you basing that off of?