8.05 - Committed - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Brainiac 8]

well that means there's only 15 left

Well, in most cases the seasons are 22 episodes long, we only had twenty last season due to the writers strike.

Which is plenty of time to develop their love for one another.


Yep...that's going to be fun to see--a jealous Lois.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to it. Maybe the finale will be Doomsday killing Clark (Or so it seems) and Lois finally spilling her feelings to him. I would love that.

 

[Darknightnomis]

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Originally Posted by Darknightnomis
Clark and Lois have more chemistry in a single episode than Clark and Lana had for six seasons.

OMG... Seriously?! That has to be one of the most RIDICULOUS things I've ever read here... and there have been PLENTY of absurdities to choose from!

Serious as a kryptonite heart attack.

Clark and Lois actaully seem to enjoy each other even when changing jabs at one another. I feel elated and happy after watching them on screen.

Clark and Lana made want to slit my wrist.

 

[Brainiac 8]

A Kryptonite heart attack?

I hear they aren't so bad...in most cases you can walk them off.

 

[Darknightnomis]

a kryptonite heart attack?

I hear they aren't so bad...in most cases you can walk them off.

lol!

 

[SpideyVille]

Exactly, and they'll still be playing with this plot, they are not just going to drop it.

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In fact spoilers point to the fact that they get much closer, and Lana coming back gets Lois a little on the riled side.

Showing their hand five episodes into the season would be stupid.

I've said it once before and I'll say it again.

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Lois and Clark are gonna start to get so close that there really won't be anything stopping them from getting together. But just as that's about to happen, Lana returns. This will cause Clark to contemplate his real real feelings of Lois, along with whether or not he has really moved on form Lana. By the time Lana leaves, Clark's gonna let her go much more easily than before and he's gonna be sure that Lois is his girl. But just as he comes o that realization, Lois is going to begin to draw back since Lana's return will make her think that Clark still has feelings for deep down. You can expect Lois and Clark to be dragged out just as much as, if not longer than Clark and Lana was in back in season 2.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to it. Maybe the finale will be Doomsday killing Clark (Or so it seems) and Lois finally spilling her feelings to him. I would love that.

That sounds like something that came out of a comic book.

But I'd like to see that. Just when things start to get interesting between Lois & Clark, Doomsday arrives and kills Clark.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknightnomis
Clark and Lois have more chemistry in a single episode than Clark and Lana had for six seasons.

OMG... Seriously?! That has to be one of the most RIDICULOUS things I've ever read here... and there have been PLENTY of absurdities to choose from!

Serious as a kryptonite heart attack.

Clark and Lois actaully seem to enjoy each other even when changing jabs at one another. I feel elated and happy.

Clark and Lana made want to slit my wrist.

To be fair, Clark and Lana was well done in the first couple of season was well done and served as the backbone of the show. It wasn't unil mid season 3 when they started all the angst and stuff, and the second half of season 5 to the middle of season 6 that made the whole relationship between the two just feel pointless and had people wondering when were they finally gonna just break up and stay that way.

TW and KK actually had great chemistry. It's just that Clana was more of a serious, angsty, teenage relationship, while Lois and Clark is shaping up to be a fun, entertaining, true romantic love. Clana just seems so bad because of the way the writers handled it. Obviously they're doing a much better job with Lois and Clark, which is great.

A Kryptonite heart attack?

I hear they aren't so bad...in most cases you can walk them off.

 

[Darknightnomis]

To be fair, Clark and Lana was well done in the first couple of season was well done and served as the backbone of the show. It wasn't unil mid season 3 when they started all the angst and stuff, and the second half of season 5 to the middle of season 6 that made the whole relationship between the two just feel pointless and had people wondering when were they finally gonna jus break up and stay that way.

Absolutley. and I agreed the first time you mentioned this. See my coments on the previous page.

 

[SpideyVille]

Absolutley. and I agreed the first time you mentioned this. See my coments on the previous page.

I edited my last post, I added a little part after that. But basically, the real problem with Clark and Lana was that the characters grew up while the relationship never did. It stayed as some teenage high school relationship for 7 years, as opposed to Lois and Clark whose relationship is actually growing along with the two characters.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I tell you what, this episode had me in fanboy heaven the whole time, all because of how hot Welling and Durance were on screen together.

They just work as Lois & Clark, and they have their mannerisms and interplay down so well.

 

[Mandrill]

The problem with Lana and Clark was that as we know they don't end up together the constant will they wont they got tiresome.They should have reconciled them earlier and have them be friend's like they are in the comic's.

Especially as they then brought Lois in who could have taken over the love interest angle ,though admitedly I belive they were not allowed to have a romantic angle with Lois and Clark to start with.

The one thing I liked about this episode and apologies if it's been mentioned and I missed it was the voice mail of Lois drunk telling Chloe how sweet Clark is.

 

[The Caped Knight]

So, the good:


--Clark's football jersey

Their were two moments that I thought of When I saw Lois wearing The Football jersey in this episode .

One this one

Lois Lane wearing nothing but Superman's t-shirt

And the famous promo Image of Teri Hatcher as Lois Lane wraped in Superman's cape. That was also seen in Superman comics [For Tomorrow] story arc

 

[Captivated]

I've been enjoying this season more than I thought I would... I find the new characters and even Jimmy and Chloe pretty interesting. And since they are trying to be more "Lois and Clark" I'm glad they have improved on Lois' character.

ED and TW really have LACKED chemistry in the past, but I blame the writers. For so long they've had Lois ragging on Clark for no perceivable reason, I guess in some awkward attempt at building tension. But, IMO, it just made her look b*tchy. And NOW all of a sudden, for no reason that we've been made privy to yet, they're writing Lois in love with Clark?! Uhhh.... when and why did this happen?

Yeah, we all know that Lois and Clark end up together, but that doesn't mean the writers can be lazy... they should at least drop some bread crumbs... some indication of HOW and WHY it happens. It would just be so much more believable and powerful if the writers didn't assume so much.

They have let Lois be more "likable" this season.. softer... and that combined with the the "work" that ED obviously had done, her character is more attractive. Thank goodness.

And except for being annoyed at the lack of an explanation or hint at the evolution of their current relationship, I am liking where they are going.

This episode had some much improved scenes between Lois and Clark. Having her get drunk was a poor choice (especially since she swore off booze after the frat party fiasco) but then, I don't think drunk is funny. However, the scene at the farm was pretty cute. The phone message that Lois left Chloe was very short but signifigant because it actually gave us a CLUE as to how and why Lois is warming up to Clark.

The scene with the lie-detector was very well played for both couples. I have trouble believing that Chloe doesn't still love Clark, but I'm sure she loves Jimmy too. I was holding my breath when Lois was answering those questions and thought ED did a great job. And TW... loved the play of emotions that crossed his face. Not to mention he looked AMAZING ... I mean, WOW.

I just hope they (the writers) do a better job showing how and why the Lois and Clark relationship is evolving... They used to be much better at this whole character development thing.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Great stuff Kal. I will forever love Teri Hatcher as Lois, she was wonderful in the role.

The For Tomorrow story was great.

 

[SpideyVille]

The problem with Lana and Clark was that as we know they don't end up together the constant will they wont they got tiresome.They should have reconciled them earlier and have them be friend's like they are in the comic's.

Especially as they then brought Lois in who could have taken over the love interest angle ,though admitedly I belive they were not allowed to have a romantic angle with Lois and Clark to start with.

The one thing I liked about this episode and apologies if it's been mentioned and I missed it was the voice mail of Lois drunk telling Chloe how sweet Clark is.

I agree, Lana should have found out about Clark's secret much earlier so that she could have been essentially what Chloe is now, which is his best and closest friend that knows his secret (aside from Pete). But that's what I don't like so much about this version of Clark Kent, which is that Lana has always been and seems like she will always be something special in a romantic sense to Clark. It's as though he can't be near her without wanting to be with her by his side forever. Hopefully they'll show him finally move on from her later on this season, but from the way things have been the past few seasons, Lana is more deadly to Clark than Kryptonite.

And yea, i dont think Lois was supposed to be around for long and they didn't really have the rights nor plans to make the two an item at the time. But if this season has showed us something, times are a changing. t:

 

[SpideyVille]

I've been enjoying this season more than I thought I would... I find the new characters and even Jimmy and Chloe pretty interesting. And since they are trying to be more "Lois and Clark" I'm glad they have improved on Lois' character.

ED and TW really have LACKED chemistry in the past, but I blame the writers. For so long they've had Lois ragging on Clark for no perceivable reason, I guess in some awkward attempt at building tension. But, IMO, it just made her look b*tchy. And NOW all of a sudden, for no reason that we've been made privy to yet, they're writing Lois in love with Clark?! Uhhh.... when and why did this happen?

Yeah, we all know that Lois and Clark end up together, but that doesn't mean the writers can be lazy... they should at least drop some bread crumbs... some indication of HOW and WHY it happens. It would just be so much more believable and powerful if the writers didn't assume so much.

They have let Lois be more "likable" this season.. softer... and that combined with the the "work" that ED obviously had done, her character is more attractive. Thank goodness.

And except for being annoyed at the lack of an explanation or hint at the evolution of their current relationship, I am liking where they are going.

This episode had some much improved scenes between Lois and Clark. Having her get drunk was a poor choice (especially since she swore off booze after the frat party fiasco) but then, I don't think drunk is funny. However, the scene at the farm was pretty cute. The phone message that Lois left Chloe was very short but signifigant because it actually gave us a CLUE as to how and why Lois is warming up to Clark.

The scene with the lie-detector was very well played for both couples. I have trouble believing that Chloe doesn't still love Clark, but I'm sure she loves Jimmy too. I was holding my breath when Lois was answering those questions and thought ED did a great job. And TW... loved the play of emotions that crossed his face. Not to mention he looked AMAZING ... I mean, WOW.

I just hope they (the writers) do a better job showing how and why the Lois and Clark relationship is evolving... They used to be much better at this whole character development thing.

It's funny because I was thinking about this during the episode last night. For some reason, I never used to like Lois. I thought ED was a bad choice and that Lois shouldn't have been on the show in the first place, yet for some reason I'm starting to really like her a lot more this season and I'm glad they're heading in this new direction.

On a side note, the only times i liked Lois' character when she first appeared was during all her interactions with Clark because they always added some humor to the show, and in the previous few seasons, their friendship allows them to show a side that they don't normally show to others.

 

[B]

I dont see this as a filler episode, there was a threat (like there always is) that was tied in to the storys progression

The Lois & Clark elements where all great & showed some good chemistry between them, in particular with the

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Ring Buying & Elevator Scene at the end

There where also alot of wonderful 1 liners in this for example

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Lois - A smile every now and then wouldnt kill you

Clark - I'm on short supply Lois, I wouldnt wanna waste one

I wanted Heath Ledger to bounce into the scene and say

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Lets put a smile on that face

, Lois's line about the car headlights was good as well

My only problem with the episode was the Chloe & Jimmy stuff, theres just too much of it...I dont mind them dont get me wrong, but they need to tone down the amount of hug you moments for those two & the I love you speaches as well...

I was preying when Jimmy was saying

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I'm not who you think I am

that he was gonna say

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"I am like that guy Adam with the weird Liver disease & I have 5 minites to live....my name isnt Jimmy Olsen either its Sinbad Horse Lover...the third"

3.9999999999 out of 5 from me

 

[Brainiac 8]

Didn't you already post all of that?

 

[COMPO]

hey i was just thinking Lex and Clark's journey was more Lex turning darker through the series and then finding out about Clark in this season Mercer is a dark character i wonder if she'll have a different path like when she finds out about Oliver she'll be conflicted about things. And her journey is becoming good again after being twisted by Lex.

 

[Dr. Chaos]

hey i was just thinking Lex and Clark's journey was more Lex turning darker through the series and then finding out about Clark in this season Mercer is a dark character i wonder if she'll have a different path like when she finds out about Oliver she'll be conflicted about things. And her journey is becoming good again after being twisted by Lex.

I think Tess is going to get alot nastier in her actions as time goes on.

She hasn't reached the point of no return like Lex has but I think it's going to get worse before she can really take a good look at what she's becoming.

Down the line, when they can get Rosenbaum back for a set of episodes to end the series, they might take the time to turn her against Lex but as things stand now, they understandably need her as their top heel.

She obviously has this fantasy of Lex being some great protector, I look forward to seeing that possibly shattered in the end.

 

[BizarroAids]

Loved the episode. I thought it was funny when Clark was waiting for Lois' answer and flinched when she answered yes, like he was goin to get shocked.t:

This is an example of another fun episode, and another reason why this season is fastly moving up my list of favorites.

Next weeks episode looked badass. Can't believe we're going to see some Doomsday action so early on, but still.t:

 

[Mikelus]

I really credit Kelly Souders, Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin, and Darren Swimmer.

Miles & Millar were holding back the show's potential for far too long.

PS3 (producers) are following AlMiles plan for the most part:

Newsarama: Welcome to the hot seat, Darren! Let’s start with the biggest change for season eight – show creator Al Gough and Miles Millar are no longer with the show. Did you all have a “pow wow” before they left on how to stick to their blueprint for the series or did they give dispensation on following your own path for the eventual outcome of the show?

Darren Swimmer: We had lots of discussions about how things will carry on. A few of the things we’re doing this season are their direct suggestions or things they had put in motion. Since we’ve been working with them for six seasons, we’ve got a pretty good sense of where they plan on going with the story, and we would like to stick to their vision as much as possible.

They’ve shared with us their concept of the way they see some of the final scenes, but they’ve been very generous about letting us take the series where we feel it needs to go. Overall, they’ve been incredibly helpful and supportive during the transitional period, and they’re not falling off the map. We have and we’ll continue to run ideas past them once in awhile.

What I don't like about PS3 is them wanting a S9 when Clark is ready to become Superman this season, there's no need to drag this up any longer, only exception would be a full Superman show, which is not going to happen because of the movies.

 

[b24]

^^ yea but don't u think they have diffrent way of handling the show than almiles did

u can see change in the show too from clark's personality to overall feel and look of the show

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

PS3 (producers) are following AlMiles plan for the most part:

A few of the thingswe’re doing this season are their direct suggestions or things they had put in motion

They’ve shared with us their concept of the way they see some of the final scenes, but they’ve been very generous about letting us take the series where we feel it needs to go.

those seem to contradict one another....

 

[Mikelus]

^^ Not really, of course they will give it some personal touch, but they will not change most of it, the main difference is no Clanadrama.
They still have some triangles going or coming, Olitess as the new couple, the Chimmy wedding, etc. But with Clark "alone", accepting his destiny and the iconic Clois moments, fans are happier with this season.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

Frankly, I'd bet anything that if miles and gough were still at the helm, chloe would have admitted she had some kind of feelings for clark in this episode. Those two could never let the darn chlark crap die.

 

[Mikelus]

They were going to end the Chloe pinning for Clark anyway because this season is more about Clark becoming Superman, Lois a top reporter, closer to the mythos. The whole process started last season with Chimmy getting closer and Chloe being fired from the DP by Lex (part of AlMiles plan).