88th Annual Academy Awards

[kedrell]

Age of Ultron wasn't even the best MCU movie, let alone Best Picture worthy (??).

As far as I am concerned, I'll take the MCU movie I liked the best over the BP winner from 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014 and 2015. And I agree that AoU wasn't the best MCU movie. I have it at #3 and tied for that spot with 2 others which are it's equal.

 

[dude stannis]

The MCU looks about as cinematic as an episode of Always Sunny sometimes.

 

[flickchick85]

I like it as well. I think I didn't make my point clear. I understand the idea behind the look, it is just a bit too soft for me, like a lot of shows on ABC.

ABC has a rather crappy HD channel. I am not even sure if they broadcast in 1080p yet. There is always a jump between the blu-ray and broadcast, but it is stark with ABC.

Ah yes, the broadcast quality might be making it look even softer, true. I wish Amazon wasn't over-charging so damn much for their "exclusive" blu-ray so I could comment on how it looks in that format, but alas.

 

[The Joker]

My #1 is Winter Soldier.

But I'd put several above Age of Ultron.

Likewise. I found AOU to be pretty average.

 

[kedrell]

You know what you did. You do it in TFA forum. Just because it is your opinion doesn't mean you have to be rude about it.

Rude to who? To a movie? Because I'd love to see you point out a time where I was rude to an actual poster/person. If I mock a movie I don't like...that's a big difference to being rude or name-calling to an actual person. I'm not above the former but I try to refrain from the latter.

It's just that certain people around here take insults to a movie they like/love personally and they really shouldn't do that. It smacks of a lack of maturity.

 

[Sithborg]

So disagreeing with the majority(around here) is the measure of inflammatory? Boy have we gone downhill then.

Saying you didn't like a film is one thing. Out right declaring a film isn't worthy to be on the Best Picture list is another. Stating your opinion as law for others is not going to go over well.

It is just a weird argument. Especially when you enter a theater a fan of something already giving it a high mark before you see a single frame.

I love TFA. It is my favorite film I saw last year. #2 and 3 would be Fury Road and Inside Out. I'd say the last two are legit Best Picture contenders imo, while I'd only think about a nod for Abrams and editing in the big categories for TFA.

Yeah, only reason I thought that TFA would make it into Best Picture was because of the expansion into 10 films. It is funny to see others rant against the Academy for "snubbing" TFA.

 

[Snow Queen]

Avengers: AOU? More like Avengers: IOU...a better movie next time.

To be clear, I don't hate AOU, I think it's decent, but it was definitely disappointing for me. Oh well, at least there's a new creative team for Infinity War. Maybe I'll like 2/4 Avengers movies by the end of these. I just saw an excuse for a bad joke.

Ah yes, the broadcast quality might be making it look even softer, true. I wish Amazon wasn't over-charging so damn much for their "exclusive" blu-ray so I could comment on how it looks in that format, but alas.

They won't even sell it in Canada.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

As far as I am concerned, I'll take the MCU movie I liked the best over the BP winner from 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014 and 2015. And I agree that AoU wasn't the best MCU movie. I have it at #3 and tied for that spot with 2 others which are it's equal.

Your entire argument seems to be, "I liked it better, so it is clearly a better film". Which is your right of course. But that isn't exactly a nuanced view of the merits of a film.

I personally don't usually agree with the Oscar winner for BP. But I am not going to simply vote popcorn fare because I had a really good time at the theater and am I big fan of the material. This is the exact reason why there is a distinction between TDK and the Incredibles, and then all other superhero flicks.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Queenie you're Canadian ? Oh Boy!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The MCU looks about as cinematic as an episode of Always Sunny sometimes.

Don't be rude to Always Sunny.

Ah yes, the broadcast quality might be making it look even softer, true. I wish Amazon wasn't over-charging so damn much for their "exclusive" blu-ray so I could comment on how it looks in that format, but alas.

I got it as a gift luckily. Will be watching the first season over the next two days before the new season debuts on Tuesday. Hopefully it looks better.

 

[warhorse78]

I'm also surprised Straight Outta Compton didn't get nominated.

I wished it at least got a nod for Jason Mitchell playing Eazy E, I thought he was phenomenol in that role.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Rude to who? To a movie? Because I'd love to see you point out a time where I was rude to an actual poster/person. If I mock a movie I don't like...that's a big difference to being rude or name-calling to an actual person. I'm not above the former but I try to refrain from the latter.

It's just that certain people around here take insults to a movie they like/love personally and they really shouldn't do that. It smacks of a lack of maturity.

You are like the guy at the party who sees everyone having a good time, and then needs to make it clear they aren't having a good time, and if anyone disagrees, well it doesn't matter. Because its your opinion.

And you know what smacks of a lack of maturity? Your whole MCU shtick.

 

[flickchick85]

They won't even sell it in Canada.

Well that's unacceptable.

I got it as a gift luckily. Will be watching the first season over the next two days before the new season debuts on Tuesday. Hopefully it looks better.

Then I expect a full report!

 

[kedrell]

Saying you didn't like a film is one thing. Out right declaring a film isn't worthy to be on the Best Picture list is another. Stating your opinion as law for others is not going to go over well.

When did I do this? I explicitly stated that I was simply giving my own opinions on the matter. What the hell has happened to the world? Has reading comprehension declined that much?

Yeah, only reason I thought that TFA would make it into Best Picture was because of the expansion into 10 films. It is funny to see others rant against the Academy for "snubbing" TFA.

Well count me among those not doing such ranting. I'd never have given a nom to TFA. I saw easily more than a dozen films this year that I liked better than it. And I didn't hate TFA by the way. I thought it was ok.

 

[kedrell]

You are like the guy at the party who sees everyone having a good time, and then needs to make it clear they aren't having a good time, and if anyone disagrees, well it doesn't matter. Because its your opinion.

And you know what smacks of a lack of maturity? Your whole MCU shtick.

My what a persuasive argument.

Nobody forced you to engage with me on this. If it bothers you that much then just ignore what I say. You're not the first nor will you be the last. I don't care. I have as much right as anybody to voice my opinions and I'll do so whenever I see fit.

 

[Snow Queen]

Queenie you're Canadian ? Oh Boy!

I am.

Well that's unacceptable.


Then I expect a full report!

There is a third party seller with it available, but you can't get it directly through Amazon and that third party seller is selling it for $80.

 

[kedrell]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good.

'Good' is in the eye of the beholder. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to say opinions are fact. 'Good' is an opinion and opinions differ.

And putting Age of Ultron up there as the years best?

That's rich coming from someone who can't accept other opinions without rudely mocking them.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

My what a persuasive argument.

Well when you make a sig like that, it isn't very hard to make a persuasive argument.

 

[kedrell]

Among this crowd? No, I don't imagine it will be.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

'Good' is in the eye of the beholder. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to say opinions are fact. 'Good' is an opinion and opinions differ.



That's rich coming from someone who can't accept other opinions without rudely mocking them.

We are talking about awards, where some sort of consensus does matter. Someone can think "The Room" is cinematic nirvana. They aren't "wrong", but that doesn't suddenly make it true.

 

[Forever Evil]

The MCU looks about as cinematic as an episode of Always Sunny sometimes.

 

[CaptainWagner]

We are talking about awards, where some sort of consensus does matter. Someone can think "The Room" is cinematic nirvana. They aren't "wrong", but that doesn't suddenly make it true.

Exactly.


And Kedrell, you still haven't explained in any objective terms why AOU is more deserving of BO than the current Noms. Just repeating what you liked and didn't like isn't going to solve anything. Using an objective assessment of the film's in question will result in people taking your opinion more seriously.

 

[jokesonm3]

You know back in 2013 i argued the fact that Man of Steel was a near sure fire win for best picture... until 12 years a slave came along.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Exactly.


And Kedrell, you still haven't explained in any objective terms why AOU is more deserving of BO than the current Noms. Just repeating what you liked and didn't like isn't going to solve anything. Using an objective assessment of the film's in question will result in people taking your opinion more seriously.

I understand the idea that performance can hit someone differently then it does someone else. That is to be expected. But I also feel that not trying to see beyond your own personal bias, at least in terms of these awards, misses the point.

 

[kedrell]

We are talking about awards, where some sort of consensus does matter. Someone can think "The Room" is cinematic nirvana. They aren't "wrong", but that doesn't suddenly make it true.

But awards are made up of individual's votes and those votes are individual opinions. I'm not saying they don't have th right to nominate whoever they choose. By all means their opinions are as valid as mine or anyone else's. I was just giving my own opinions. I can't count how many critics and pundits I've seen do this as well as posters around here. I don't go around telling them how I think they are wrong. Why bother?