9.02 - Metallo - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[blksuperman2]

Awesome Episode. Really looking forward to this season. BAG really shined here. I couldn't help but laugh though when he went offline at the end. After nearly 2 years battling Terminators only to become one on SV. Hilarious. Anyway I thought Lois' reaction to Clark coming back was the best part of the episode. The on-screen chemistry between ED & TW is spot on for Lois & Clark.

 

[B]

did you find the breathing creepy? Was like Darth Vader only creepier and it kind of made sense with what they were doing. Loved how the Kryptonite seemed to beat as well.

Very, I thought the noise was just his "heart beat" though as opposed to him breathing.. but either way the noise was still creepy

 

[lespaul59]

Awesome Episode. Really looking forward to this season. BAG really shined here. I couldn't help but laugh though when he went offline at the end. After nearly 2 years battling Terminators only to become one on SV. Hilarious. Anyway I thought Lois' reaction to Clark coming back was the best part of the episode. The on-screen chemistry between ED & TW is spot on for Lois & Clark.

I have to agree with Clark returning to the Planet being my favorite part. I loved how Clark smiled, It just seems like this if the first time in a few seasonthat something that's supposed to make Clark happy made him happy. I loved this episode and I hope they keep telling good stories like this the whole season. In a way I kinda feel sorry for Chloe. I mean Jimmy died, Clark disappeared, Clark reappeared because of somebody else and when she asked Clark to go back in time he said no. Sure she should understand why he said no. And not to mention Lois disappearing. But all of that together in 3 weeks would probaly be super hard to deal with and make a person look at things differently than they should or would.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

That could seriously open up a can of worms

I actually thought BAG pretty much walked all over him in the acting department. I knew from TSCC that he was a good actor now, but it really showed when able to compare to someone who doesn't quite have the same skill set.

Personally, I think BAG wasn't that great, specifically at the beginning. The whole flirty fella thing didn't work well. He came off very cheesy almost to the point that he seemed like he was high on something, maybe he was smiling too much. His role after the character got hit by the truck was excellent though. Concerning BAG showing up Tom Welling, not a chance. They each equally owned the scene.

 

[SatEL]

The episode was crap just like this season's opener, Metallo sucked just like Doomsday and all other attempted DC characters done on this ****** show.

2/10.

 

[04nbod]

Care to elaborate on your bias perspective

 

[Superfreak]

Care to elaborate on your bias perspective

I think he's refering to the humanification of the villains. How they all have melodramatic motivations for their evil. But I have to disagree with BAG's metallo. It fits nicely, in the short amount of time they've used to introduce the character... instead of wasting a number of episodes introducing and explaining Corben's background.

 

[SatEL]

Care to elaborate on your bias perspective

I just find the episodes boring and repetitive, its the same formula over and over this is season 9 and we still essentially getting the same thing. I had a problem with Metallo whole plot, why does every villain on Smallville have to have a sad history. Why cant someone just be bad for the sake of gaining something. There is nothing wrong with developing antagonist's but if your going to do so then take your time and spend more than one ****ing episode on doing it. Also with this whole vigilante of justice crap that they are spewing, I find it really stupid that Clark burns his insignia into every scene his on. It makes him look like a glory hound and also well it can be viewed as vandalism. Just doesn’t seem very Superman like to me, then there is also the wasted potential of another great fight. They messed up the fight scene with Doomsday and they did it with Metallo, although I am sure no one expected much since the fans are always let down by the fights. I guess overall I am just fed up of the same old ******** and don’t think there is anything positive about the show besides a minor connection to Superman

 

[montage]

Clark can do what he likes in my opinion & doesn't need to behave like Superman Because he isn't yet.
Metallo & Doomsday aren't finished so i don't see they wasted either character.
People just read the names of these villains & instantly think "Superman Vs ?", All they're doing is setting these characters up for their main event.

 

[Eros]

Clark can do what he likes in my opinion & doesn't need to behave like Superman Because he isn't yet.
Metallo & Doomsday aren't finished so i don't see they wasted either character.
People just read the names of these villains & instantly think "Superman Vs ?", All they're doing is setting these characters up for their main event.

Thats the thing, who says he isn't "superman" yet? IMO he is superman, he does almost everything superman does. He just can't fly, so He is "superman" just not in name. He has fought many of "superman" future villians, and met other superheroes and worked with the League. He is superman, he is just smallville version of him.

 

[SV Fan]

I had a problem with Metallo whole plot, why does every villain on Smallville have to have a sad history. Why cant someone just be bad for the sake of gaining something

Normally I would agree with you, but I thought the way they presented Metallo really worked well. Sure it could have been better but it not something to complain about.

All that being said I thought the whole Davis thing last season was misguided for the reason's you stated, and to be honest more often then not the sad tragic Lex wasn't as good as people make it out to be. I personally hope they don't go the root of sad tragic Zod this season, the show definantly needs to have bad guys who are bad just because(which they really haven't had since S3 with Lionel, and one could argue with Brainiac in S5+7)

 

[The Chris]

I finally got to see this thing today. Terrific episode. Very focused, well directed, well acted, exciting. I love the emotion spark for Metallo, and the obvious hurt in Chloe when she realizes that Clark can relay his emotions to Lois more than her. Oh and I have to say this about BAG. Like some I just looked at him as another pretty face from a dumb old teen show, bit Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles sure changed all that, and he has continued it here on this show. I don't spoilers, so I hope we see more Metallo.

 

[Mikelus]

I just find the episodes boring and repetitive, its the same formula over and over this is season 9 and we still essentially getting the same thing. I had a problem with Metallo whole plot, why does every villain on Smallville have to have a sad history. Why cant someone just be bad for the sake of gaining something. There is nothing wrong with developing antagonist's but if your going to do so then take your time and spend more than one ****ing episode on doing it.

Your ranting is "boring and repetitive", could you be more negative please?

Brainiac has always been bad, Lionel was the magnificent bastard for a long while (before changing), other characters have been evil too. Corben's character was well made, he appeared in the first two episodes and SV left it open for him to return, but if you prefer cartoonish villians, well, just watch the cartoons, problem solved.

Around forums most fans are happy with the season so far, and the CW is satisfied with the ratings, that's what really matters.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I just find the episodes boring and repetitive, its the same formula over and over this is season 9 and we still essentially getting the same thing. I had a problem with Metallo whole plot, why does every villain on Smallville have to have a sad history. Why cant someone just be bad for the sake of gaining something. There is nothing wrong with developing antagonist's but if your going to do so then take your time and spend more than one ****ing episode on doing it. Also with this whole vigilante of justice crap that they are spewing, I find it really stupid that Clark burns his insignia into every scene his on. It makes him look like a glory hound and also well it can be viewed as vandalism. Just doesn’t seem very Superman like to me, then there is also the wasted potential of another great fight. They messed up the fight scene with Doomsday and they did it with Metallo, although I am sure no one expected much since the fans are always let down by the fights. I guess overall I am just fed up of the same old ******** and don’t think there is anything positive about the show besides a minor connection to Superman

Hehe, I find this statement funny coming from a Dragonball fan.

seriously though, to each his own, just busting your chops.

I was actually just jumping on to say that I really enjoyed this, and thought it surpassed the premier also. I loved BAG's performance, and really like the direction they are taking the Clark/Blur/Lois relationship...very much setting up for the inevitable introduction to Superman.

 

[montage]

Hehe, I find this statement funny coming from a Dragonball fan.

Now that you mention it t:

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

John Corben is human, he should have some human side to him. Making him evil just for the sake of being evil like Brainiac was, would've fallen flat. LIke the comics, you have to give him some depth and make him 3 dimensional. He needs to dislike Superman for a legitimate reason not "just because."

 

[Brainiac 8]

John Corben is human, he should have some human side to him. Making him evil just for the sake of being evil like Brainiac was, would've fallen flat. LIke the comics, you have to give him some depth and make him 3 dimensional. He needs to dislike Superman for a legitimate reason not "just because."

Isaac Asimov said in a discourse about writing one time that: "Every hero has his fair share of demons, and even the most evil of villians have those that they love."

The point is that a villian is much more interesting when they are written beyond just evil for no appearant reason. They have feelings, motivations, and tragedies...that makes them interesting to learn about.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

The point is that a villian is much more interesting when they are written beyond just evil for no appearant reason. They have feelings, motivations, and tragedies...that makes them interesting to learn about.

Heath Ledger's Joker was evil for no apparent reason and his performance was brilliant and Oscar worthy. What made the character so great is that he was evil for no apparent reason. The character didn't even have an arc, he was just a force that went through everything, like the shark in Jaws.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Heath Ledger's Joker was evil for no apparent reason and his performance was brilliant and Oscar worthy. What made the character so great is that he was evil for no apparent reason. The character didn't even have an arc, he was just a force that went through everything, like the shark in Jaws.

If you believe that, then you missed the point of his character or even the character of Joker all together.

His motivation was anarchy. It may be basic, but it's still a motivation.

It's much deeper in the comics, but I was one of the few that didn't care for TDK Joker.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

If you believe that, then you missed the point of his character or even the character of Joker all together.

His motivation was anarchy. It may be basic, but it's still a motivation.

It's much deeper in the comics, but I was one of the few that didn't care for TDK Joker.

I think you might have missed the point. A big part of the TDK Joker is that he was an absolute. The character had no shades of gray and it's never explained why he is evil. Anarchy is what he wants to achieve and he is an agent of chaos, but they never gave the character a reason for being the way he is and it worked wonderfully.

 

[SatEL]

John Corben is human, he should have some human side to him. Making him evil just for the sake of being evil like Brainiac was, would've fallen flat. LIke the comics, you have to give him some depth and make him 3 dimensional. He needs to dislike Superman for a legitimate reason not "just because."

My gripe isn’t because he was made to look human, it was because it was the same cliche Smallville villain boo who I had a tragic life so I will justify that with all the evil **** I do. Why couldn’t his motive have been something else.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Because sometimes it made for better stories...Mr. Freeze wasn't nearly as interesting until they gave him a real back story.

Doc Ock in Spider-Man 2 was awesome because of his tragic nature.

I enjoy when backstories are fleshed out like that.

 

[SatEL]

Because sometimes it made for better stories...Mr. Freeze wasn't nearly as interesting until they gave him a real back story.

Doc Ock in Spider-Man 2 was awesome because of his tragic nature.

I enjoy when backstories are fleshed out like that.

You can have a back story without it being tragic, when you do it over and over and over again it becomes tedious and unoriginal. I mean what next a tragic Zod? Zod turnt bad because his father was killed by rebel Kryptonian's? Or he was a lonely orphan on Krypton who had no friend's?

 

[kal_el_526]

I don't think Smallville's for you lol And i think Clark burning the symbol where he was is his way of giving hope to the citizens in Metropolis, I guess its a little corny but....TRIAL and ERROR Hes learning still and what he does now will push him to becoming the Man of Tomorrow (Superman) And also Brainiac was evil just to be evil, but humans need a push in thaty direction its just how life is Villains aren't born they are made.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Brainiac, Zod, Mr. Mxy all were just evil to be evil.