Fantasy A Harry Potter series for HBO?

[Sawyer]

Honestly, the more I think about Rylance as Dumbledore, the more it pisses me off.

Potentially the best ever casting for the character and that transphobic monster has ruined it for me.

 

[Sawyer]

Given how the trio have spoken out about her views, don't underestimate spite being part of JKR's motivations for allowing this to happen.

It’s certainly plausible from JKR’s point of view, but I doubt Warner Bros (for all its faults) is making business moves to appease her beefs.

Plus they’d probably kick her ass to the curb in favor of Radcliffe, Grint and Watson’s return to their roles, if it ever came to that.

 

[Sithborg]

It’s certainly plausible from JKR’s point of view, but I doubt Warner Bros (for all its faults) is making business moves to appease her beefs.

Plus they’d probably kick her ass to the curb in favor of Radcliffe, Grint and Watson’s return to their roles, if it ever came to that.

WB can only make what she allows them to make. So, no, they cannot toss JoAnne. Ever. They absolutely would love to, but they can't.

 

[Sawyer]

WB can only make what she allows them to make. So, no, they cannot toss JoAnne. Ever. They absolutely would love to, but they can't.

Oh, really? I thought they could at least give her a cut of the money and otherwise tell her to take a hike, but I guess not…

 

[Drizzle]

And then you add in the fun that they can't meaningfully do anything that different with the iconography because that iconography nets them so much money in merchandise and theme parks because people really like those movies.

This is what I keep trying to wrap my head around. You can have new themes for the show even if it's a futile effort to replace Williams's music. But there's really no getting around how ingrained into pop culture the Hogwarts castle has become. The fact that it's been a theme park attraction for a decade and a half seals the deal in that regard. If they change it too much people are going to complain and if they don't change it enough or at all people are going to complain.

 

[Snow Queen]

This is what I keep trying to wrap my head around. You can have new themes for the show even if it's a futile effort to replace Williams's music. But there's really no getting around how ingrained into pop culture the Hogwarts castle has become. The fact that it's been a theme park attraction for a decade and a half seals the deal in that regard. If they change it too much people are going to complain and if they don't change it enough or at all people are going to complain.

You can't change what Hogwarts looks like, that's a multi-million dollar land that draws people in. Hogsmeade? Sorry, also the land. Diagon Alley? Nope, built that too. Oh, how about the ministry? Open next summer. You can barely touch any major location or else step on the toes of the biggest moneymaker the franchise has post-2011. And I imagine Universal wouldn't really love to sink hundreds of millions into these lands only for WB to push different visuals for the series.

 

[Sithborg]

Oh, really? I thought they could at least give her a cut of the money and otherwise tell her to take a hike, but I guess not…

Yeah, Harry Potter was much huge already when the licensing rights were sold. It allowed her to retain a level of control most authors do not get in these situations. They are stuck with the TERF queen till she dies.

 

[TheFuture]

I'm actually OK with this and it's potentially excellent casting on multiple fronts.

I had a feeling they would have to tweak Snape in order to avoid the discourses around being an "incel" (I know incel isn't race specific, more this just speaks to what I believe they're doing which is changing that aspect of the character) and also around Slytherin House being inherently racist/supremist, so this casting goes a long way to neutralizing those debates, which to be honest, I could do without listening to for 7+ years.

Plus, for some reason this just makes the possibility of a black Hermione much more compelling to me.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

the recast of Snape (of all characters) was always going to be a hard sell for fans...

probably best they just took the character in a whole different direction, then try to find a look-a-like actor to mimic what Rickman did...
(which even Rickman didn't really fit the character description in the books perfectly either, but, won over the fans with his performance) so, hopefully we get the same out this new performer

 

[Drizzle]

the recast of Snape (of all characters) was always going to be a hard sell for fans...

probably best they just took the character in a whole different direction, then try to find a look-a-like actor to mimic what Rickman did...
(which even Rickman didn't really fit the character description in the books perfectly either, but, won over the fans with his performance) so, hopefully we get the same out this new performer

Rickman, Maggie Smith, Robbie Coltrane, etc. are all tough acts to follow. The recasting of basically all of the characters is going to be a tough sell except for Dumbledore since it already happened in the movies, albeit under unfortunate circumstances because of Richard Harris's passing. I can see people favoring Mark Rylance (if he's cast) over Michael Gambon's portrayal.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

at the end of the day, you got to remember that this isn't a remake of those movies, it's just based on the same source material...

so, yes, changes will be made to fit their re-telling of the story

an as accurate as those original films were to that source, it is not what defense that material

these are fictional characters that existed before and will conutinue to exist, outside of those actors portrayal of them... it doesn't have to begin an end with them

 

[Pennywise]

 

[BoredGuy]

I'm actually OK with this and it's potentially excellent casting on multiple fronts.

I had a feeling they would have to tweak Snape in order to avoid the discourses around being an "incel" (I know incel isn't race specific, more this just speaks to what I believe they're doing which is changing that aspect of the character) and also around Slytherin House being inherently racist/supremist, so this casting goes a long way to neutralizing those debates, which to be honest, I could do without listening to for 7+ years.

Plus, for some reason this just makes the possibility of a black Hermione much more compelling to me.

It might neutralize those two specific debates
But if you think some people aren't gonna be loudly and endlessly b***ing about this for the next decade, at a minimum, you have a lot more faith in humans than I do lol

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

at the end of the day, you got to remember that this isn't a remake of those movies, it's just based on the same source material...

so, yes, changes will be made to fit their re-telling of the story

an as accurate as those original films were to that source, it is not what defense that material

these are fictional characters that existed before and will conutinue to exist, outside of those actors portrayal of them... it doesn't have to begin an end with them

Whether it's a remake of those movies or not, the series will be 100% compared to the movies in every way, shape, form. It's like Thanos, inevitable.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I know hardcore book fans are a bit more open to the idea of this show, but I don't see this resonating with the wider GA, and that's the crux of the issue here. Yes, it's another adaption of the books, not remakes. BUT, we have had one of the most iconic film franchises born out of those books that transcended pop culture in more ways than one. The actors, and their portrayals, are ingrained the public conscience in such a way that it doesn't matter if a new adaption has stuff that the films left out, it could never come close to being as culturally relevant or impactful.

I'm sure people will disagree with me, and I get why, but I also was part of the Potter generation back in the 2000s and saw firsthand how much those films meant to people. Its the same as if they tried to do a new adaption of The Lord of the Rings after what Peter Jackson did. You have to look at the bigger picture here. Danielle Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, and Emma Watson are those characters in live action for more than just one generation of people and that's not gonna change

Its ironic because I do expect them to use the Williams theme for this. Which further proves my point. I expect this to have excellent production value, but will end up living in the shadow of what came before. I doubt it lasts a full run. But hey, all that being said, maybe it'll be good, but I just don't care right now.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I know hardcore book fans are a bit more open to the idea of this show, but I don't see this resonating with the wider GA, and that's the crux of the issue here. Yes, it's another adaption of the books, not remakes. BUT, we have had one of the most iconic film franchises born out of those books that transcended pop culture in more ways than one. The actors, and their portrayals, are ingrained the public conscience in such a way that it doesn't matter if a new adaption has stuff that the films left out, it could never come close to being as culturally relevant or impactful.

I'm sure people will disagree with me, and I get why, but I also was part of the Potter generation back in the 2000s and saw firsthand how much those films meant to people. Its the same as if they tried to do a new adaption of The Lord of the Rings after what Peter Jackson did. You have to look at the bigger picture here. Danielle Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, and Emma Watson are those characters in live action for more than just one generation of people and that's not gonna change

Its ironic because I do expect them to use the Williams theme for this. Which further proves my point. I expect this to have excellent production value, but will end up living in the shadow of what came before. I doubt it lasts a full run. But hey, all that being said, maybe it'll be good, but I just don't care right now.

Idk why you thought people would disagree with you. Everything you said was spot on.

 

[squeekness]

Great casting. Shame absolutely no one should watch or support this show since it's a money laundering operation for the oppression of trans people.

This is my conflict. I enjoy the characters but despise the author.

 

[psylockolussus]

7 books... unless they condense the entire thing in 3 to 4 seasons with 10 episodes per season. It would at least take more or less 10 years to reach the final book, especially with these streaming shows taking 2 years for a new season to air. And who knows whats gonna be the reception for the first two seasons?

Anyway for better or worse, I'm interested to see how this would turn out even though I'm not yet interested in watching this reboot series.

 

[Nemeres]

This is what I keep trying to wrap my head around. You can have new themes for the show even if it's a futile effort to replace Williams's music. But there's really no getting around how ingrained into pop culture the Hogwarts castle has become. The fact that it's been a theme park attraction for a decade and a half seals the deal in that regard. If they change it too much people are going to complain and if they don't change it enough or at all people are going to complain.

I think they'll do a new look for everything, even the Hogwarts castle. It's part of what makes a remake exciting for the fanbase, the new reveal of things. Merchandise means little, because they get to keep selling both the old and the new. Sell the same thing twice. Works perfectly for them.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I think they'll do a new look for everything, even the Hogwarts castle. It's part of what makes a remake exciting for the fanbase, the new reveal of things. Merchandise means little, because they get to keep selling both the old and the new. Sell the same thing twice. Works perfectly for them.

Wouldn't that also mean they'd have to start remodeling all of the theme parks?

 

[DarkKnight88]

I don’t really see why the theme park needs to reflect the show. It reflects the book/movies which are their most traditional:

I mean, the Marvel Universal Studios theme park doesn’t reflect the look of the MCU. It reflects the comics.

 

[Nemeres]

Wouldn't that also mean they'd have to start remodeling all of the theme parks?

I wouldn't think so. That there's a new show coming out doesn't mean people will instantly stop appreciating the movies. The show will have its own high-caliber art department and I don't think they'll attract any good talent if the directive is "Make sure to re-use the iconic visuals from the movies" just bc there are theme parks around.

They're already dealing with the criticism that remaking the books feels repetitive. I think they'll use every chance to create a sense of novelty, from script to design.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I don’t really see why the theme park needs to reflect the show. It reflects the book/movies which are their most traditional:

I mean, the Marvel Universal Studios theme park doesn’t reflect the look of the MCU. It reflects the comics.

I wouldn't think so. That there's a new show coming out doesn't mean people will instantly stop appreciating the movies. The show will have its own high-caliber art department and I don't think they'll attract any good talent if the directive is "Make sure to re-use the iconic visuals from the movies" just bc there are theme parks around.

They're already dealing with the criticism that remaking the books feels repetitive. I think they'll use every chance to create a sense of novelty, from script to design.

responding to both of you at the same time. let's look at this objectively. the only reason they are even making a reboot of Harry Potter is 1. because they ran out of ideas and 2. to make money. for the second reason, they would want to capitalize on the reboot in all of the possible ways they could, and bringing attention to the new aesthetic would be their way of doing that. otherwise, why bother?

watch this video. I'd recommend watching the whole thing, but I understand if you don't want to. I timestamped it at 5:28, but for even better context, rewind it to 4:48, about 40 seconds earlier for even better context.