The Dark Knight Rises A Hero Rises: The Batman Thread

[kvz5]

Is it just me or is Bale much bigger than he was in The Dark Knight? Or does the suit have a bit of padding?

Judging by the candid set pics, he's definitely bigger than his TDK size. It's a nice compromise between his BB and TDK size.

 

[joem4077]

Still prefer his size in BB and the suit itself. But that's just me.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I definitely agree with this - it also falls strikingly close to the idea that Bane is trying to have some sort of control over Gotham's citizens. Given the amount of emphasis they were given at the end of TDK, they would have to have some significance in this. It ultimately veers back to this initial perception of Bane being the new symbol of Gotham City. Heroic or otherwise. As regwec would put it, a "Jungian" terror.

Well he certainly sees himself as the key to Gotham's liberation from what we've seen and read, so seeing himself as the symbol Gotham needs is a definite possibility..

Sort of like a blatant Chekov's Gun, if he does end up using it around the final act. I like the sound of that.

Alternatively, it could be something he's using to subdue another bomb-induced earthquake in his initial skirmish with Bane. Say, Batman solves the technological details after the attack at the stadium, and then confronts Bane on his second attempt, leading up to a confrontation with Bane losing his technological edge. Bane would then defeat Batman in their more visceral contest.

This all depends on whether the first confrontation between Batman and Bane actually takes place beneath the stadium as that rumour claims, I do get the feeling the LED gun will be important to the finale as it's featured every time we have gotten an official piece of promotion featuring Batman.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Always loved this pic.

 

[MrWayne]

Well he certainly sees himself as the key to Gotham's liberation from what we've seen and read, so seeing himself as the symbol Gotham needs is a definite possibility..



This all depends on whether the first confrontation between Batman and Bane actually takes place beneath the stadium as that rumour claims, I do get the feeling the LED gun will be important to the finale as it's featured every time we have gotten an official piece of promotion featuring Batman.



Always loved this pic.

I'm wondering if the gun uses the same tech that was used for the microwave in BB,

 

[Just_Human]

The Legends ends

Could be about Bane, not Batman

Ras: " more than just a man .... blabla... an ideal ... blabla ...a legend "

Bane seems to have that legend status ( " the masked man " )
It also looks like he has an ideal " take control of your city "
(unless he is using Gothamites)

I dunno, I could be wrong

 

[viciouscoy]

I'm wondering if the gun uses the same tech that was used for the microwave in BB,

Seems possible - if Bane's mask really is for anesthetic as has been speculated, it's plausible that this is stored as liquid and nebulized by the inner-workings of the mask. In this case, the LED gun could well be utilized to vaporize/destroy that supply of anesthetic liquid. This might also explain the damage to Bane's mask in some sneaky set pics - the pressure from the nebulized liquid could well cause serious damage to the delivery system.

First post! Be gentle.

 

[Just_Human]

But it's gas

 

[viciouscoy]

But it's gas

I'm thinking an e-cigarette type mechanism - whatever the gas is, it's stored as a liquid (for space-efficiency) and vaporized by the mask for inhalation.

 

[Brain Damage]

Still prefer his size in BB and the suit itself. But that's just me.

Agreed. Other than that he couldn't turn his neck, it was a beautiful suit. The bat symbol especially!

 

[Just_Human]

" Knightfall "
" dark knight rises "

Well done Chris

 

[The Batman]

This thread is a relief from people wanting to see batman die/get his ass kicked/have someone steal the show from him, lol

 

[Brain Damage]

This thread is a relief from people wanting to see batman die/get his ass kicked/have someone steal the show from him, lol

It truly stuns me just how many people want to see Batman die.
Not only is it a contrived, easy way out ending, but it's just not... Batman.

Christopher Nolan isn't Grant Morrison, he can come up with something better, and I'd be willing to bet that on July 20th, we'll all see that he has.

 

[fire_rising]

It truly stuns me just how many people want to see Batman die.
Not only is it a contrived, easy way out ending, but it's just not... Batman.

Christopher Nolan isn't Grant Morrison, he can come up with something better, and I'd be willing to bet that on July 20th, we'll all see that he has.

I agree. To simply kill off Batman is a bit of a "get-out-of-jail card". Why deal with a complicated ending of Bruce simply retiring from the cowl or continuing as the caped crusader when you can just kill him and show shots of mourning Gothamites and supporting characters?

These same Bane fans who also predict Batman's death at the end of the film may want to re-watch The Warrior to see a good example of victory through perseverence and camaraderie, rather than death.

More than anything, Bane is a plot device used to bring Batman back to his purist roots of shaking Gotham out of apathy and inspiring its people. Bane killing Batman or driving him into sacrifice just doesn't make sense because, unlike the other villains that challenge Bruce's ability to be Batman, Bane is created to challenge Bruce's ability to persevere past the cowl and into regular life.

I think people want Batman to die because they think it will create a definitive moment in this trilogy unparalelled by other superhero films or comics. They forget, though, that this trilogy has already been filled with iconic events and characters, and to kill off Batman is to ditch an even better, more symbolic resolution: Bruce realizing himself.

 

[solidsnake86]

Glad someone brought this up. The movie is about batman and I would definitely like to see him win in the end. Not just against bane, but completing his mission of saving gotham. Since this has a definite ending and a conclusion to the series it would be great to leave it on a positive note.

I've always liked the batman character the most because his existence is tied into gotham. His mission, as I gather from these movies, is to put it back in the place where the elected officials are not corrupt and true justice, through the courts, can once again function as they're supposed to.

Batman in my mind was always supposed to be a temporary fix against corrupt individuals, the police force etc. In the comics the story must go on but here in the movies they have the chance to do something great.

Also as a side note, I think it would be great if they did some sort of miniseries of what happens in the 8 years, to show different villains and the like for people who want more batman stories.

 

[Brain Damage]

I agree with the above post. In TDK, Bruce is nearly ready to give up the mantle at the start of the film - with the mob almost fully destroyed and Harvey Dent ready to carry on his spirit - but The Joker is a reaction to his crusade that he simply did not expect and by the end of it he cleans up the mess he made by taking the fall for Harvey's actions.

TDKR will obviously deal with the consequences of this, but I want it to end on a conclusion that ties the whole trilogy. What Bruce learns in this film has to reflect back to everything that happened in the past two and ultimately, as others have said, I want him to succeed in the quest he originally embarked on.

 

[Batville]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qmK3lpkgVo

Best part.. alfreds "theyll hate you for it".

 

[kvz5]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2012/01/06/dark-knight-rises-preview-2012/

Don't be fooled, though. As great as Bane and Catwoman are, what we're really excited for is the return of Christian Bale as Batman. What we all need to realize is that we live in a world where an Academy Award-winning actor plays the Caped Crusader. That is not something to take for granted, and if Nolan does plan on finishing the legend like the trailer promises, expect to see a brilliant performance from Bale beyond anything we've seen in the series before.

 

[tiger_a_K]

Bale certainly is an incredible actor... I love him in "The Fighter"

Hoping for Bruce to show some rare, real emotion. Hopefully in the cave with Alfie

 

[CrypticOne]

I think Bruce will die in TDKR.

It'd be very ballsy of Nolan and it's something we haven't seen in a superhero movie.

Nolan likes to keep his movies ground in reality. How long do we really think Bruce can survive?

I think it'd be the right move to just kill Bruce/Batman in the name of Gotham. His symbol finally "Rises."

It's especially important that thing movie takes place 8 years into the future.

 

[The Caped Knight]

 

[VOLCHKOV]

I'm seeing things a little different. I think Bane will initially defeat Batman, (but not "break" him...yet), rip off the mask & realize it's Bruce Wayne. Then he'll use Bruce as an example of what will happen if anyone in Gotham tries to confront him. He'll expose Bruce in front of everyone as being Batman & then "break" him there for the world to see, (break his legs or arms, not his back as even Nolan would have a hard time convincing people how that doesn't cause instant & permanent paralysis). Bane will then throw Bruce into that prison to continue on with his "example". There, Bruce will rise up & come back to defeat Bane near the end of the movie.

This way the injuries to Bruce don't need to be "hidden" from everyone in Gotham as to how & why he got them, Bruce himself will be seen as the Hero who rises up and once he does, there will be no need for Batman anymore as Gotham will see Bruce as their inspiration.

 

[gugumugats]

I agree. To simply kill off Batman is a bit of a "get-out-of-jail card". Why deal with a complicated ending of Bruce simply retiring from the cowl or continuing as the caped crusader when you can just kill him and show shots of mourning Gothamites and supporting characters?

These same Bane fans who also predict Batman's death at the end of the film may want to re-watch The Warrior to see a good example of victory through perseverence and camaraderie, rather than death.

More than anything, Bane is a plot device used to bring Batman back to his purist roots of shaking Gotham out of apathy and inspiring its people. Bane killing Batman or driving him into sacrifice just doesn't make sense because, unlike the other villains that challenge Bruce's ability to be Batman, Bane is created to challenge Bruce's ability to persevere past the cowl and into regular life.

I think people want Batman to die because they think it will create a definitive moment in this trilogy unparalelled by other superhero films or comics. They forget, though, that this trilogy has already been filled with iconic events and characters, and to kill off Batman is to ditch an even better, more symbolic resolution: Bruce realizing himself.

Yeah, I also felt that killing off Bruce would be kind of cheap, especially when a lot of the press release stuff mention Bruce "being frozen in time" or having to recover from his issues. I would really really want for Bruce to achieve some sort of closure as far his traumas go.

 

[slimshady247]

Seems possible - if Bane's mask really is for anesthetic as has been speculated, it's plausible that this is stored as liquid and nebulized by the inner-workings of the mask. In this case, the LED gun could well be utilized to vaporize/destroy that supply of anesthetic liquid. This might also explain the damage to Bane's mask in some sneaky set pics - the pressure from the nebulized liquid could well cause serious damage to the delivery system.

First post! Be gentle.

What set pics?

 

[Batman jr.]

I don't think he'll die. But he will retire and become "a Dark Knight" who left his mark on the city.

I want the last shot to leave me breathless, in fact, so breathless that it'll make the audience go home in stunning silence.

The latter actually happened two times when I was in the cinema: with Saving Private Ryan & Der Untergang (Downfall). TDKR is of course not the same "league", but you know what I mean.

 

[John McGuirk]

I think Bruce will pretend to be dead to fool Bane. I could see a final fight that "kills" them both, with Bane actually dying.

Then at the end of the movie, Batman returns with an awesome ending shot near the Bat signal.

/dream scenario