A New Era for the Wrestling Thread

[Dr. Evil]

Logan Paul is a trash human being, I don't want him anywhere near either of the World Titles. I'd rather not have him on TV every week until Mania, but it's something we are going to have to deal with,

Hmmm.....well, all of the major promotions have trash human beings, not just AEW. TNA just brought back Tessa Blanchard. AEW has Chris Jericho and the NWA has......EC3?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Based on last night's NXT, the WWE might have found a way to solve the "so their non-WWE name is different than their WWE name, so what do we call them?" dilemma, based now on their relationship with TNA. Last night TNA's JDC came out to his old WWE theme music, and he's known as JDC. However, both Lexus King and Corey Graves mentioned he used to known as Fandango. This opens the door for WWE and NXT to officially retire names like Zack Ryder and Kurt Hawkins if Matt Cardona or Brian Myers ever return even for a few weeks. Like Myers or Cardona could come out and cut a promo saying that their old WWE names are a thing of the past and that they would like to be known by their real names now. With someone like AJ Francis, WWE could combine both his real name and his WWE name like AJ "Top Dolla" Francis or "Top Dolla" AJ Francis.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I’m not a Cena guy so him going for 17 does nothing for me… If I was booking it would definitely be Cena/Orton… Arguably his greatest rival for his last Mania match makes sense… Logan makes sense Box Office wise, but even as a non-Cena guy that feels alittle Angle/Corbin ish (not as bad but still…)

If you want to go the young guy route, he’d be better off with a Gunther or Breakker… Even Fatu could work… The thing about Paul for me is I don’t see him being a lifer, I wouldn’t waste stuff like that on him because I don’t think he stays with wrestling as long as a Gunther or Breakker will… Plus I just don’t like him lol

While his promo did feel a bit heelish, I just don’t see him going heel…

I think Cena grew into a really good performer, I didn't mind him, but he was never a favourite of mine and I've certainly got no interest in a near 50 year old Cena going for the WWE title at the biggest show of the year when the roster is so stacked with talent. I'd say Edge was Cena's greatest rival, I actually never liked Cena's matches with Orton bar the one at Summerslam 2007, but he's undoubtedly one of Cena's biggest rivals and they came through from OVW to WWE parallel to each other, it makes sense for Cena's final Mania.

I agree that Paul won't be a lifer and he's a scumbag, Jacob is a wildcard option for sure, I'm just not sure how they get to that match as I don't think we'll see Cena again until the Chamber, where as I think Logan Paul will be in the Chamber match and you can get to him and Cena via what happens in that match.

Yeah, I don't see him going full heel, but there was definitely a different tone and attitude from him.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Lobo]

Zelina's abs are crazy. Mickie still looks amazing

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

The Bayley, Roxy, Giulia and Charlotte segment on NXT was really good stuff that left open some interesting directions going forwards, I was especially surprised with Cora getting involved and swinging for Roxy. It set up Cora vs Bayley for next week.

The main event tag match was good, Waller was really intense and Trick and Oba met that head on, some of the crispiest work I've seen from both, really physical, and the finish looks to have set up Trick vs Eddy Thorpe in a strap match at Vengeance Day.

 

[DOBSON10]

I think Cena grew into a really good performer, I didn't mind him, but he was never a favourite of mine and I've certainly got no interest in a near 50 year old Cena going for the WWE title at the biggest show of the year when the roster is so stacked with talent. I'd say Edge was Cena's greatest rival, I actually never liked Cena's matches with Orton bar the one at Summerslam 2007, but he's undoubtedly one of Cena's biggest rivals and they came through from OVW to WWE parallel to each other, it makes sense for Cena's final Mania.

I agree that Paul won't be a lifer and he's a scumbag, Jacob is a wildcard option for sure, I'm just not sure how they get to that match as I don't think we'll see Cena again until the Chamber, where as I think Logan Paul will be in the Chamber match and you can get to him and Cena via what happens in that match.

Yeah, I don't see him going full heel, but there was definitely a different tone and attitude from him.

I’m not a Cena hater or anything, I do think, as you said, as an overall performer he was “great”… I’d say Top 10 All-Time on the mic, above average wrestler, had some memorable matches/moments… It’s when Cole and others start calling him the GOAT when I go into hater mode haha… When it comes to his greatest rival, I figured it was Edge or Orton, honestly the Cena/HHH/Edge/Orton era was a big part of the reason I went lapsed fan, so I have a nice gap there where I don’t know much about what was going on… Those four getting 1001 Title reigns when my guy Bret Hart only got 5 pissed me off and honestly all 4 of them were just boring to me at the time… Orton eventually won me over as a heel but the other 3 I still really don’t care that much about…

I could see Logan getting the nod too… I’m hoping he isn’t in the Chamber because they have a chance to set up one of the greatest Chambers ever with the lineup they could throw out there… Roman/Punk/Rollins/Drew/Styles/Cena could be crazy (I prefer Orton over Cena but he’s already in)… If I’m booking I probably feed Logan to Steiner, book it as a “Future Face of WWE” match cuz while I don’t see him as a lifer or a face of WWE type, I do understand he brings eyeballs to the business right now… Plus he’s so hated it could help Breakker get more over by beating him…

 

[Hunter Rider]

I’m not a Cena hater or anything, I do think, as you said, as an overall performer he was “great”… I’d say Top 10 All-Time on the mic, above average wrestler, had some memorable matches/moments… It’s when Cole and others start calling him the GOAT when I go into hater mode haha… When it comes to his greatest rival, I figured it was Edge or Orton, honestly the Cena/HHH/Edge/Orton era was a big part of the reason I went lapsed fan, so I have a nice gap there where I don’t know much about what was going on… Those four getting 1001 Title reigns when my guy Bret Hart only got 5 pissed me off and honestly all 4 of them were just boring to me at the time… Orton eventually won me over as a heel but the other 3 I still really don’t care that much about…

I could see Logan getting the nod too… I’m hoping he isn’t in the Chamber because they have a chance to set up one of the greatest Chambers ever with the lineup they could throw out there… Roman/Punk/Rollins/Drew/Styles/Cena could be crazy (I prefer Orton over Cena but he’s already in)… If I’m booking I probably feed Logan to Steiner, book it as a “Future Face of WWE” match cuz while I don’t see him as a lifer or a face of WWE type, I do understand he brings eyeballs to the business right now… Plus he’s so hated it could help Breakker get more over by beating him…

Oh yeah, the whole GOAT thing is corny, he wasn't the biggest draw of all time and he's not the best in-ring performer of all time, and he's not the most over of all time, so it just rings hollow. That was definitely a period in the business where you often had to look hard for the silver lining, I liked Edge but after the 2nd quad injury Triple H became a menace to the main event, and Cena and Orton weren't Bret and Shawn for me, it was only when Punk and Bryan got pushed properly that things picked up for me but Vince made sure that didn't last too long and I stopped watching not long after Wrestlemania 30, when they split the Shield and Bryan had his 1st retirement. Last years Wrestlemania was the first full show I'd watched in a decade.

Logan Paul is facing Rey in a Chamber qualifier on this coming Raw, so I think he'll be in it, I'm guessing it'll be 3 guys from each brand so I'm thinking Punk vs Cena vs Drew vs Paul vs Rollins vs Priest. I like the idea of Bron vs Paul, both are freak athletes and it would be great exposure for Bron and as you say, get him over even more with the fans.

 

[Lobo]

We could get AJ vs Paul.

Screw it let's do Cena vs Hendry. It would be different and something I think fans could get behind. Joe is already trying to make a match happen, so why not?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

AEW's Australia Grand Slam going from a 4 hour PPV/TV Special in a stadium, to just another Collison in a tiny arena nowhere near the original venue, is an all time screwjob on fans. And of course Tony is being embarrassing about it.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Is Logan Paul a scumbag? Yes he is, and unfortunately he will probably be a world champion someday, however, he is a draw, whether we like it or not. Also I said earlier that the WWE isn't the only one with a scumbag on the roster. AEW has Chris Jericho, TNA just brought back Tessa Blanchard. The NWA had Tyrus and now they have EC3.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

AEW's Australia Grand Slam going from a 4 hour PPV/TV Special in a stadium, to just another Collison in a tiny arena nowhere near the original venue, is an all time screwjob on fans. And of course Tony is being embarrassing about it.

Has he thrown a strop on twitter as usual?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think a lot of guys like Jacob or Bronn don't feel big enough for Cena's last Mania. You need a proper BO opponent for it. While Orton or Punk are long standing rivalries he has had for sure....he's also done that match many times. This is why I think Cody is the opponent. Biggest opponent he can have, has the quest for 17, and it's a match we haven't seen that can act as a passing of the torch. So I expect Cena to win. Punk, Seth, and Roman will screw each other

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Lobo]

Damn Bianca

 

[Dr. Evil]

Ummm....Bianca looks hotter with glasses.

 

[Hunter Rider]

This is the same agency Liv and Punk signed with.




That's a looooong aisle to work your way back to the curtain lol




It's Micky time!

 

[Hunter Rider]

Backstage News On How WWE Talent Feel About Def Rebel Following Royal Rumble Criticism - Wrestling Inc.

Fans aren't the only ones who aren't happy with Def Rebel's WWE output.

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[Lobo]

Most themes are terrible. I watch every week and still was like "Who's that?" when peoples entrance music hit during the Rumble. Glad AJ Styles got his old theme back.

Now as an aside, put Blair Davenport on tv. She can wrestle, and talk. She could have at least been in the Rumble. Or maybe she could benefit from the deal with TNA and be used over there for a bit.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Most themes are terrible. I watch every week and still was like "Who's that?" when peoples entrance music hit during the Rumble. Glad AJ Styles got his old theme back.

Now as an aside, put Blair Davenport on tv. She can wrestle, and talk. She could have at least been in the Rumble. Or maybe she could benefit from the deal with TNA and be used over there for a bit.

I had the same problem, even on the weekly shows I'm still not sure who is coming out in some promo segments as the music is very nondescript for a lot of wrestlers.

Isn't she injured? I know her and Kiana James moved to the main roster and just floated for a few weeks before disappearing, then the report was both had gotten injured.

 

[Lobo]

I had the same problem, even on the weekly shows I'm still not sure who is coming out in some promo segments as the music is very nondescript for a lot of wrestlers.

Isn't she injured? I know her and Kiana James moved to the main roster and just floated for a few weeks before disappearing, then the report was both had gotten injured.

Kiana was/is injured. Blair is just sitting in catering as far as I know. Last I saw her compete was the Womens US title tournament. Then she was in the background being teased as a potential ally for Chelsea and Piper against Michin and BFab. I'd have used her over Maxine or Nattie.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Kiana was/is injured. Blair is just sitting in catering as far as I know. Last I saw her compete was the Womens US title tournament. Then she was in the background being teased as a potential ally for Chelsea and Piper against Michin and BFab. I'd have used her over Maxine or Nattie.

Ah right, I forgot about her being in the US title tournament, if they aren't using her she might as well go back down to NXT like Shotzi has done.