A New Era for the Wrestling Thread

[Lobo]

From what I'm reading, Vinci was treated the way he was and released for hitting on the female talent especially Tiffany Stratton, who of course is Ludwig Kaiser's girlfriend. Now I wonder if Kaiser enjoyed when he got to beat down Vinci.

 

[DOBSON10]

 

[TheVileOne]

From what I'm reading, Vinci was treated the way he was and released for hitting on the female talent especially Tiffany Stratton, who of course is Ludwig Kaiser's girlfriend. Now I wonder if Kaiser enjoyed when he got to beat down Vinci.

There's no basis for that rumor. It's fan speculation.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

From what I'm reading, Vinci was treated the way he was and released for hitting on the female talent especially Tiffany Stratton, who of course is Ludwig Kaiser's girlfriend. Now I wonder if Kaiser enjoyed when he got to beat down Vinci.

I heard the same thing too. Wonder if it's true.

There's no basis for that rumor. It's fan speculation.

Rumor and innuendo?

 

[Dr. Evil]

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A theme that will last for a few weeks, before he gets a piece of trash theme from Def Rebel.

 

[TheVileOne]

I heard the same thing too. Wonder if it's true.



Rumor and innuendo?

Yes. Just for example, where did this actually come from? I can't find anyone credible saying it. It's all just internet and social media speculation. It's like the stuff about Britt Baker cheating on Adam Cole or Andrade cheating on Charlotte Flair.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Miro is gone from AEW. So do we run it back with Rusev Day? Or does Miro decide to retire and focus on the acting work he's been doing?

 

[DOBSON10]

Reports say Malakai Black, Miro and Ricky Starks are all done with AEW… Blacks contract expired, Miro bought out of his contract, no word yet on how Stark contract ended that I’ve seen… Sounds like Black and Miro are free with no 90 day wait…

Black is one of my favorites, he’s a HHH guy so hopefully he’ll have a good run… Miro is a solid big man, had a good run in AEW at first but seems like a bit of diva… I personally couldn’t care less about Starks but he has a bit of a IWC fan base… Could see all 3 in WWE…

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm somewhat sad about Ricky Starks. Thought the dude had big star potential and they absolutely squandered him. Even if he did plan on leaving, you could've used him to enhance your TV and put together guys over.

 

[Lobo]

Yes. Just for example, where did this actually come from? I can't find anyone credible saying it. It's all just internet and social media speculation. It's like the stuff about Britt Baker cheating on Adam Cole or Andrade cheating on Charlotte Flair.

At the very least it gives us something to discuss

 

[Hunter Rider]

Reports say Malakai Black, Miro and Ricky Starks are all done with AEW… Blacks contract expired, Miro bought out of his contract, no word yet on how Stark contract ended that I’ve seen… Sounds like Black and Miro are free with no 90 day wait…

Black is one of my favorites, he’s a HHH guy so hopefully he’ll have a good run… Miro is a solid big man, had a good run in AEW at first but seems like a bit of diva… I personally couldn’t care less about Starks but he has a bit of a IWC fan base… Could see all 3 in WWE…

Yeah, I'm sure Black wouldn't have left WWE had he known Trips was taking over, and I'm certain he'll be back in WWE soon, maybe a return on the Raw after Wrestlemania, unless they have a potentially big angle for him, I know Heyman was really high on him.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[DOBSON10]

Yeah, I'm sure Black wouldn't have left WWE had he known Trips was taking over, and I'm certain he'll be back in WWE soon, maybe a return on the Raw after Wrestlemania, unless they have a potentially big angle for him, I know Heyman was really high on him.

That was around the time Vince was ruining HHH’s NXT guys on purpose, then released most of them including Black… HHH and Heyman both like him so I hope he gets a fair shot at a good singles run… Start him off with his NXT gimmick and build from there…

There was a report that WWE see him as a Main Event talent… He’s got the tools to be at least a mainstay upper mid card guy, which is where I think he ultimately ends up… I’m interested to see it play out…

 

[Hunter Rider]

I swear Jerry Lawler is writing Cole and McAfees lines, McAfee sounds like a 10 year old.

 

[Hunter Rider]

That was around the time Vince was ruining HHH’s NXT guys on purpose, then released most of them including Black… HHH and Heyman both like him so I hope he gets a fair shot at a good singles run… Start him off with his NXT gimmick and build from there…

There was a report that WWE see him as a Main Event talent… He’s got the tools to be at least a mainstay upper mid card guy, which is where I think he ultimately ends up… I’m interested to see it play out…

I wasn’t watching then but I know Vince and Bruce Prichard took over NXT and deliberately ran it into the ground, essentially crapping all over everything Triple H had done to turn it into the best wrestling product around.

What was his NXT gimmick?

 

[Hunter Rider]

Fantastic tag match, Iyo pinning Liv opens up some possibilities.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Really good match between Bayley and Lyra with a smart finish, but now it seems Roxy will qualify, so what now for Iyo?

 

[DOBSON10]

I wasn’t watching then but I know Vince and Bruce Prichard took over NXT and deliberately ran it into the ground, essentially crapping all over everything Triple H had done to turn it into the best wrestling product around.

What was his NXT gimmick?

I didn’t watch a ton of NXT at the time so someone else might be able to explain his full character better, I would watch his Takeover matches which would have the highlight packages with snippets from promos from the feud… But I would say kind of Sons of Anarchy (Badass biker) with a dark, gothic undertone… Bit of Biker Undertaker, bit of regular Undertaker, bit of Bray Wyatt cult leader type stuff, bit of Jake the Snake vibes too... Kind of what they’ve been trying to do with Karrion Kross, kinda/sorta.. I don’t remember them doing any actual supernatural stuff but gave off a bit of that vibe…

He’s good on the mic, kickboxing skills make him different than most in the ring, a bit like Steve Blackman in the ring… His finisher “Black Mass” is one of my favorites of all-time, looks legitimately devastating…

 

[Hunter Rider]

Rhea vs Iyo not even on Elimination Chamber.

Quality tag team title match between the Creeds and The War Raiders, the finish keeps things alive as well.

Great to see AJ back, good promo and Dom is an ideal first opponent back.

Another strong promo from Punk, and I loved the line where he said he didn't know who's music it was when Logan Paul came out lol

 

[DOBSON10]

Definitely good to see AJ back, nice tease with the face to face with Steiner… I’m sorry but I just can’t get into Dominic… I understand it’s working but the minute I see him I just roll my eyes, he’s terrible all the way around..

Pat McAfee/Cole make the yeet thing even more annoying, I popped when Gunther came and destroyed Jey… I know I can be a downer but it’s just not my thing..

Punks promo was solid, he’s always good for at least one memorable line even if the promo isn’t a pipe bomb…

Liv gonna need some stitches, got a nasty cut when Raquel used her as a battering ram.. Liv’s improved a lot in the ring, not just there for her looks anymore… (Can’t wait until they get her away from Dom)

Kind of a filler episode overall, not much to chew on really..

 

[DOBSON10]

I swear Jerry Lawler is writing Cole and McAfees lines, McAfee sounds like a 10 year old.

McAfee was a breath of fresh air in the very beginning, mostly just because the commentary teams were stale AF at the time… He’s just flat annoying to me now and I never liked Cole… Graves isn’t the greatest but I miss him… The Smackdown team is much better IMO…

Speaking of that, was watching some old PPVs when Vince was trying to put Samoa Joe out to pasture and had him on commentary and man, when he retires I hope WWE snaps him up, he’s great…

 

[Hunter Rider]

McAfee was a breath of fresh air in the very beginning, mostly just because the commentary teams were stale AF at the time… He’s just flat annoying to me now and I never liked Cole… Graves isn’t the greatest but I miss him… The Smackdown team is much better IMO…

Speaking of that, was watching some old PPVs when Vince was trying to put Samoa Joe out to pasture and had him on commentary and man, when he retires I hope WWE snaps him up, he’s great…

He's like a giant manchild, constantly yelling and sounding like he needs ritalin, he doesn't really get how to be the face commentator without sounding like a total mark.

That was when I wasn't watching but I've always liked Joe, his laid back promo style is good and he's great in the ring, loved his ROH title run and his first couple of years in TNA.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Damn Liv!

 

[Lobo]

Damn Liv!

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[TheVileOne]

At the very least it gives us something to discuss

Yes but this is the type of toxic material that hurts other people and this is how drama and urban legends spread.