Age of Ultron Aaron Johnson is Quicksilver - Part 1

[Blade X]

But I think this version of Quicksilver is the best we've had. And there ain't no more chance unless they try to revive him.

What a waste.

The way I see it, if they can bring normal humans like Bucky and Coulson back,

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they can bring QS back since he has an accelerated healing factor.

 

[Blade X]

It was partly his fault.

No it wasn't. Most people didn't go to that movie to see the lead human actor in the film. Most people went to that movie to see Godzilla beat the crap out of those monsters, which we saw very little of in that movie.

 

[PunyGod]

The way I see it, if they can bring normal humans like Bucky and Coulson back,

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they can bring QS back since he has an accelerated healing factor.

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Of course they *can* bring him back. But the point is they shouldn't. (Cue Jeff Goldblum)

PS. I also hate how every character in the comics ends up with a healing factor. Even someone like Daredevil.

 

[Darkraid]

Of course they *can* bring him back. But the point is they shouldn't. (Cue Jeff Goldblum)

PS. I also hate how every character in the comics ends up with a healing factor. Even someone like Daredevil.

DD does have a healing factor. In the comics. Just sayin'.

 

[Blade X]

PS. I also hate how every character in the comics ends up with a healing factor. Even someone like Daredevil.

When did DD get a healing factor? This is the kind of crap we end up getting when those fans who think Wolverine is "KEWL" become pro and try to turn every character they work on into a Wolverine knockoff.

 

[PunyGod]

DD does have a healing factor. In the comics. Just sayin'.

I know..... Thats why I said it.

 

[PunyGod]

When did DD get a healing factor? This is the kind of crap we end up getting when those fans who think Wolverine is "KEWL" become pro and try to turn every character they work on into a Wolverine knockoff.

In the TV show he gets accelerated healing thru meditation which I assume came from the comics.

 

[Nathan]

That seems like more than enough motivation to me.

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Especially when you're lying still for 2 days, afraid to move, because you think the bomb could go off if you do, and all you see for these two days is the name Stark. Yeah, more than enough reason to hate somebody for it.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I assume he only did that because damn, near everyone expected Hawkeye to die. Thank god he didn't, I need some more Clint!

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I wonder if Quicksilver's death was a creative decision or if it had something to do with Fox also having a QS. I assume Marvel/Whedon got pissed that Fox seemingly added QS to their movie only because Whedon announced it.

This QS wasn't as cool as the DOFP one, but I would've liked to see more of him. His death was done decently though.

Yeah this is what I was wondering too. I liked both Quicksilvers, and it sucks that Marvel and Fox got into this stupid pissing contest.

 

[DanielFM]

In the TV show he gets accelerated healing thru meditation which I assume came from the comics.

What? Seriously? Why do they feel the need to put it on everyone?

Like the trend to give adamantium to every random guy.

They can't let fanboys write their characters

 

[Sterling Archer]

When did DD get a healing factor? This is the kind of crap we end up getting when those fans who think Wolverine is "KEWL" become pro and try to turn every character they work on into a Wolverine knockoff.

What? Seriously? Why do they feel the need to put it on everyone?

Like the trend to give adamantium to every random guy.

They can't let fanboys write their characters

Most superheroes have accelerate healing to explain why they can get beat to a pulp in one issue and then be back to the status quo next issue. It has nothing to do with Wolverine being "KEWL".

 

[DanielFM]

Most superheroes have accelerate healing to explain why they can get beat to a pulp in one issue and then be back to the status quo next issue. It has nothing to do with Wolverine being "KEWL".

Cap has it officially (in the comics) and it was only referenced once in the films (in TFA). Meanwhile they invent it for others to make them look less bog-standard.
Talk about consistency.

 

[metaphysician]

I would hardly call "I can use meditation to recover quicker from getting the crap kicked out of me" "giving everyone a healing factor". Especially since all it really amounted to, for Matt, was "a slightly worse version of action hero between-scene recovery than typical."

Anyway, on the matter of Quicksilver. . .

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I'm ambivalent over whether it'd be a good idea to bring him back. However, I'd say they wrote it such as to give them options. Yes, he definitely did die, in the sense that he got taken out and is not going to be coming back on his own. He's a superhuman with enhanced healing whose fallen body was specifically recovered. If they wanted to, they could have a scene 'revealing' that his comatose body is in some advanced medical facility, and that Wanda periodically looks into ways to somehow get him back. Insert "heal my brother" subplot.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

ATJ absolutely nailed it with Quicksilver. He was a highlight to me and his character was actually Pietro and not some made up character with the same power set. He actually had depth and was pivotal to the story and wasn't just a visual effects gimmick. He had the accent, he had his issues and his relationship with his sister was spot on. Marvel gets it man. They know their characters better than anyone.

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I will join the chorus of disappointed voices however in the ultimate outcome. It was well played but damn...

 

[BH/HHH]

I liked him by the end of the film but I don't think they gave him much of a character. Sony's Quicksilver was far better and he had way less screen time.

 

[warhorse78]

In the TV show he gets accelerated healing thru meditation which I assume came from the comics.

That's the explanation they gave to us now, but I have this funny feeling that the radioactive stuff that blinded him, probably gave him other stuff along the way, like his advanced other senses, and that he can take a ridiculous beating and still keep getting up for the final blow.

 

[Tony Stark]

I wouldn't be surprised if they had pre-vized more slowmo scenes but cut them after DOFP came out.

I much preferred AoU's use of slow mo. In DOFP, his power wasn't presented as super speed it was him freezing time like Hiro Nakamura from Heroes the TV show. Everything is frozen in time and he's standing around putting on his goggles in normal time.

The way AoU presented it, it was a normal speed, slow down speed to show the action, then back to normal speed. It was slightly different than the normal bullet time stuff people have been getting since the Matrix, and I thought it was well presented.

They may well have had more that got cut, but I doubt those decisions were made because of DOFP, which was a totally different presentation of his powers.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I liked him by the end of the film but I don't think they gave him much of a character. Sony's Quicksilver was far better and he had way less screen time.

Well to each his own. DOFP QS was just a funny fast guy with a cool but ultimately unnecessary scene. Pure gimmick, style over substance and completely uninteresting to me. Whereas real Pietro from AOU was far more nuanced and true to character with the few scenes he had to work with in a film loaded with characters who all had a chance to shine (unlike the Fox-Men films).

The scene where Pietro sees SHIELD helping civilians and displays a moment of actual contentment was fantastic. He's always been a restless soul.

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I would have liked to have seen more of his character growth in the future.

 

[Tony Stark]

I thought the scene in DOFP was hilarious, but that's all it was. He wasn't a character in that film, he was the Deus Ex Machina to get Magneto out of jail, with a little hint that Magneto might be his father. That was it.

AoU was the QS and SW from the comics, with how protective he was of her.

The way Pietro [blackout]sacrificed himself to save Hawkeye and the boy[/blackout] alone made him more interesting of a character to me than in DOFP. I "didn't see that coming"

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I thought the scene in DOFP was hilarious, but that's all it was. He wasn't a character in that film, he was the Deus Ex Machina to get Magneto out of jail, with a little hint that Magneto might be his father. That was it.

AoU was the QS and SW from the comics, with how protective he was of her.

The way Pietro [blackout]sacrificed himself to save Hawkeye and the boy[/blackout] alone made him more interesting of a character to me than in DOFP. I "didn't see that coming"

Complete agree.

 

[Supernova]

Difference is were getting more quicksilver in the next xmen where as here he got a one shot deal n done. Marvel screwed up I think really bad on there big decision.

 

[Supernova]

I thought the scene in DOFP was hilarious, but that's all it was. He wasn't a character in that film, he was the Deus Ex Machina to get Magneto out of jail, with a little hint that Magneto might be his father. That was it.

AoU was the QS and SW from the comics, with how protective he was of her.

The way Pietro [blackout]sacrificed himself to save Hawkeye and the boy[/blackout] alone made him more interesting of a character to me than in DOFP. I "didn't see that coming"

I have issues with your blacked area because of what he can do it left me shaking my head with logic.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

Difference is were getting more quicksilver in the next xmen where as here he got a one shot deal n done. Marvel screwed up I think really bad on there big decision.

Marvel keeps a character or brings them back.

"There are no stakes. No one ever dies!"

Marvel kills off a major character.

"Marvel screwed up!"

Fox kills off a major character.

"Fox screwed up!"

Fox utilizes deus ex machina time travel plot device to completely erase all stakes from everything ever.

"Pure genius!"

 

[warhorse78]

I still think he's

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coming back. Aaron Taylor Johnson is way too chipper in his interviews and appearances at comic con for an actor that has his character just die in his first appearance. Johnson knows something, so it's why he is so happy! We seen how Renner was like when his character was effed up in Avengers, so, just read between the lines during the interviews.

 

[warhorse78]

Marvel keeps a character or brings them back.

"There are no stakes. No one ever dies!"

Marvel kills off a major character.

"Marvel screwed up!"

Fox kills off a major character.

"Fox screwed up!"

Fox utilizes deus ex machina time travel plot device to completely erase all stakes from everything ever.

"Pure genius!"

And DC gets it right *cough*Rachel*cough*