Inhumans ABC's The Inhumans - General Discussion (news, updates, speculation...) - Part 1

[samsnee]

Scott Buck is 2 for 2!

Assuming we're talking about making crappy Marvel tv shows.

 

[Solaire]

Black Bolt could've been standing next to his fellow king in black Panther but is in a TV movie looking series Don't have a blind hatred for this like many online seem to do but really disappointed it's a series and not a blockbuster.

 

[Dark Raven]

Looked a bit bland, but Lockjaw was funny to see, particularly at the end. Maybe in return for Scott Buck allowing the dog in the series, Marvel agreed to let him make the rest of the show like his usual efforts.

 

[darthcoolness3]

How would they connect this show to Agents of SHIELD, since they already showed Inhumans on Earth with Quake and the terrigen mist?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

This needed a much bigger budget. It just did. Lockjaw was nice to actually see but... it came off cheap and in some ways dated. Like, really dated. It had a STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION look. I am a die hard Next Gen fan... but that was on decades ago. In 1998 this would have impressed the hell out of me... but it's 2017.

The debut could still change my mind. I hope it does.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Looked a bit bland, but Lockjaw was funny to see, particularly at the end. Maybe in return for Scott Buck allowing the dog in the series, Marvel agreed to let him make the rest of the show like his usual efforts.

I don't think there's any question Lockjaw will be the star.

I'm in for TV but out for IMAX. It looks like an interesting TV show but a cheap movie.

Will I watch it for free at home? Sure. Why not? It certainly appears to have a higher quality than any other network show I could name. Flash? Supergirl? Agents of Shield? The apparent production quality blows any of those away.

When it comes to TV shows on commercial, broadcast, network TV, the only thing I've ever seen that I would realistically compare in terms of having visuals of comparable quality is The Orville - which impressed me when I first saw it.

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[Panacea]

This needed a much bigger budget. It just did. Lockjaw was nice to actually see but... it came off cheap and in some ways dated. Like, really dated. It had a STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION look. I am a die hard Next Gen fan... but that was on decades ago. In 1998 this would have impressed the hell out of me... but it's 2017.

The debut could still change my mind. I hope it does.

The budget isn't the problem. It has one of the largest per-episode budgets of any TV series ever made.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The budget isn't the problem. It has one of the largest per-episode budgets of any TV series ever made.

Well they didn't spend it on the sets or costumes or make up. I want something like this to succeed but a lot of that trailer just looked suboptimal, like a SyFy show you know is gonna get cancelled before it hits season two.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't think there's any question Lockjaw will be the star.

I'm in for TV but out for IMAX. It looks like an interesting TV show but a cheap movie.

Will I watch it for free at home? Sure. Why not? It certainly appears to have a higher quality than any other network show I could name. Flash? Supergirl? Agents of Shield? The apparent production quality blows any of those away.

When it comes to TV shows on commercial, broadcast, network TV, the only thing I've ever seen that I would realistically compare in terms of having visuals of comparable quality is The Orville - which impressed me when I first saw it.

 

[MadVillainy]

It just looks bland and cheap.
I know they spent money on this but it just doesn't feel like they did

I'm not a big Inhumans fan and I didn't really care about the movie but I they should've made this a movie

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I don't think there's any question Lockjaw will be the star.

I'm in for TV but out for IMAX. It looks like an interesting TV show but a cheap movie.

Will I watch it for free at home? Sure. Why not? It certainly appears to have a higher quality than any other network show I could name. Flash? Supergirl? Agents of Shield? The apparent production quality blows any of those away.

When it comes to TV shows on commercial, broadcast, network TV, the only thing I've ever seen that I would realistically compare in terms of having visuals of comparable quality is The Orville - which impressed me when I first saw it.

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Really? There weren't even that many "wow" type effect shots in the Inhumans trailer.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Really? There weren't even that many "wow" type effect shots in the Inhumans trailer.

What commercial, broadcast, network TV show would you say has better quality?

 

[NotNickFury]

You know...I appreciate the many ways Marvel chooses to extend and expand its cinematic universe, but with that comes a particular set of standards that it's set for itself, and this doesn't meet them at all. Never mind how stock and generic it looks- as much as I detest Agents of SHIELD, it's at least impressive looking at times- but the acting didn't wow me. And maybe I've been spoiled by Game of Thrones, but Iwan Rheon here is a far cry from Ramsay Snow.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I'm still rooting for this but... yeah, that trailer was terrible.

Shame. Anson Mount deserves better, especially considering how criminally underappreciated Hell on Wheels was.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

What commercial, broadcast, network TV show would you say has better quality?

The only big VFX I saw was of course Lockjaw himself and then the teleportation bit and Black bolt's power but I would say those are at the level of the Flash/Supergirl show. The show itself might be shot better but the effects don't really come off as some quantum leap above the CW shows. Which I might add... I dislike the CW shows quite a bit, so this isn't about carrying water for one company over another.

Over all the costuming, make up, the general "scope"... Yeah it looks kinda cheap in many places.

 

[Panacea]

You know...I appreciate the many ways Marvel chooses to extend and expand its cinematic universe, but with that comes a particular set of standards that it's set for itself, and this doesn't meet them at all. Never mind how stock and generic it looks- as much as I detest Agents of SHIELD, it's at least impressive looking at times- but the acting didn't wow me. And maybe I've been spoiled by Game of Thrones, but Iwan Rheon here is a far cry from Ramsay Snow.

It's kind of odd that they all have American accents when you think about it.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Everything in that trailer just felt so hokey. Whoever put it together needs to be fired immediately. I love how when the generically dramatic epic music kicks in, they show mundane scenes of people putting down a big box or Ramsay Bolton casually walking down a hallway. It's like they're actively trying to make people uninterested in this.

 

[Guts]

The most cheap thing about this trailer was those sound effects used when Black Bolt was being hit by the police.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

The only big VFX I saw was of course Lockjaw himself and then the teleportation bit and Black bolt's power but I would say those are at the level of the Flash/Supergirl show. The show itself might be shot better but the effects don't really come off as some quantum leap above the CW shows. Which I might add... I dislike the CW shows quite a bit, so this isn't about carrying water for one company over another.

Over all the costuming, make up, the general "scope"... Yeah it looks kinda cheap in many places.

Well I guess it's a matter of opinion and we may have to see more to really judge, but just based on the trailer, the sets, costumes, locations and general scale and scope look to be well beyond what I've seen in Flash or Supergirl.

Though I will say that my wife and I were binging Flash a couple weeks ago and there was a scene with Grod fighting his rival and I looked at my wife and said: "That's some pretty impressive CGI for a TV show." and she agreed.

But that was a very brief moment, and that's where we have to see how the quality looks over the whole series and not just a few clips. If we've just seen every Lockjaw scene, yeah, that's not very impressive. If he's a major character with a lot of screen-time, that will be ground-breaking.

We've never seen any show (even including Netflix, HBO and other subscription services) that have included a major, recurring CGI character (the dragons in GOT are impressive, but they also have had very limited screen-time so far).

 

[Panacea]

I worry they've blown too much money on location shooting.

 

[Zarex]

Putting Scott Buck in charge of this in the wake of his disappointing work on Iron Fist is reminiscent of DC pushing forward with Snyder on Justice League after BvS. At some point an adult needed to put their damn foot on the brake before they careened through the guard rail.

I was hoping we'd get something like Game of Thrones, but Inhumans is looking more CW than HBO. Maybe it will be better than first impressions, but an "eight episodes and done" stint may free Lockjaw and some others for appearances in the cinematic MCU. That wouldn't be the worst thing.

 

[Dasher10]

Ugh. The costuming is horrible. Lockjaw looks nice, the sets look nice but there's no makeup effects on the minor Inhumans, Medusa's wig looks even worse in action and the Crystal, Gorgon, Medusa, Maximus and Karnak costumes look terrible. Even Black Bolt's costume looks awful without the cape. Somehow Maximus wearing a leather jacket looks cheap when that's something you can buy at a store and still have it be a higher quality. Triton is literally the only character on the show whose costume doesn't look cheap. Iwan Rheon sounds terrible. I have no idea what kind of accent he's using but for how good he was on Game of Thrones, he really sounds terrible in the trailer.

And why doesn't Triton need a mask to breathe on Earth's surface? We could have gotten something like this.

or this

Feels weird that they'd spend even more money on makeup effects for him instead of just buying him a mask.

 

[chamber-music]

The show does look cheap. The sets look like a barely decorated sound stage.

The set design is uninspired and bland.

Triton looks like a star trek alien from the original series.

A talented production designer and director can take a limited budget and create something great. This doesn't look to be the case with this show.

How would they connect this show to Agents of SHIELD, since they already showed Inhumans on Earth with Quake and the terrigen mist?

It is just like the comics with the Attlian city leaving earth and taking up residence on the moon. It sounds like they want to come back to earth in the trailer. There are multiple inhuman settlements in the comics.

It's kind of odd that they all have American accents when you think about it.

It is an American show with a mostly American cast so they were probably going to have American accents.

Generally speaking many American actors aren't great at doing non-American accents because they are rarely called upon to try and do one.

 

[2kt09]

Some set their expectations unrealistically even after that cast photo was released and enough of this trailer having already been leaked.

Like zoinks, Scoob! You ate up all the budget.

 

[chamber-music]

Most of the Inhumans we saw looked very human looking as well. I didn't see much weird looking Inhumans.

It seems like the Inhuman guards have science fiction guns.

Blackbolt looks like he has a power downgrade. His powers will probably just be destructive screaming in this show. He was getting beat down by some average beat cops in the trailer while in the comics he can trade blow for blow with the likes of the Hulk and Thanos.

I worry they've blown too much money on location shooting.

I imagine Hawaii is a pretty expensive place to shoot. They probably should of saved some money and shot in Atlanta, L.A or Toronto instead.