Abuse of Power Thread (Cops, Governments, Etc.) - Part 1

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UPDATE: Teen Jailed for Years Without Conviction Found Dead of Suicide

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A young man who spent a violent three years in jail at Rikers Island without ever being convicted of a crime reportedly committed suicide this weekend. He was 22.

Kalief Browder, then 16, was arrested in 2010 for allegedly stealing a backpack. Video surveillance from his three years behind bars—without ever being convicted of the crime—showed prison guards brutally beating him on multiple occasions.

Browder was eventually released in 2013 after the charges were dropped, but the damage was already done, the New Yorker reports.

During that time, he endured about two years in solitary confinement, where he attempted to end his life several times. Once, in February, 2012, he ripped his bedsheet into strips, tied them together to create a noose, and tried to hang himself from the light fixture in his cell.

In November of 2013, six months after he left Rikers, Browder attempted suicide again. This time, he tried to hang himself at home, from a bannister, and he was taken to the psychiatric ward at St. Barnabas Hospital, not far from his home in the Bronx. When I met him, in the spring of 2014, he appeared to be more stable.​

After a third hospitalization in January, things seemed to be on track for Browder—according to the New Yorker, an anonymous donor had just offered to pay Browder’s college tuition and he seemed to be thriving. Until last week:

Last Monday, Prestia, who had filed a lawsuit on Browder’s behalf against the city, noticed that Browder had put up a couple of odd posts on Facebook. When Prestia sent him a text message, asking what was going on, Browder insisted he was O.K. “Are you sure everything is cool?” Prestia wrote. Browder replied: “Yea I’m alright thanks man.” The two spoke on Wednesday, and Browder did seem fine. On Saturday afternoon, Prestia got a call from Browder’s mother: he had committed suicide.​

He was found dead hanging from a hole in the wall intended for an air condition unit, the New Yorker reports.

“I think what caused the suicide was his incarceration and those hundreds and hundreds of nights in solitary confinement, where there were mice crawling up his sheets in that little cell,” Prestia told the LA Times. “Being starved, and not being taken to the shower for two weeks at a time … those were direct contributing factors.… That was the pain and sadness that he had to deal with every day, and I think it was too much for him.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/kalief-browder-1993-2015?mbid=social_twitter

Absolutely horrible what they did to an innocent teen and it was directly responsible for his suicide. Solitary needs to be abolished
 
The parents need to file a massive civil suit against the state or city.
 
Yeah I agree. That's messed up on so many levels.
 
It wasn't just the solitary confinement, he was beaten by the guards and God knows what else he endured.

His suicide was probably the result of PTSD.
 
Exactly. What were the kids going to do? Slap him with a pool noodle? Oh the horror! Clearly that requires a grown man to use a gun.:o

If a man that weighs 150+ pounds cant subdue a 15 year old who weighs 100 pounds soaking wet then he doesnt need to be a cop. This goes back to cops being poorly trained and disciplined. They get in the littlest situation with the littlest bit of tension and they lose their heads.
I only watched the video one time. I thought he didn't pull the gun on the girls but rather the two guys running towards his side? :confused:
 
The USA prison system is complete bull****. How the **** can you be detained for years without any sort of trial?
 
Solitary is a common occurrence regardless if you have been convicted of not. You do anything to piss off the guards and that's where you go, warranted or not. I've done some time in solitary and it is maddening
 
Solitary is a common occurrence regardless if you have been convicted of not. You do anything to piss off the guards and that's where you go, warranted or not. I've done some time in solitary and it is maddening
That's messed up, sorry to hear that man.
 
I remember a day when you could sneak into a neighbor's pool and the most you got when caught was a strong talking to. These days morons call the cops and the cops point guns at you cause how dare you use that massive empty pool that no one is using! How dare you, criminal!*smh*

How the hell are the neighbors calling the cops "morons" in this situation? Thy are literally the only ones in the right here. The kids were breaking the law by trespassing, fighting, etc. These weren't some innocent babies. They were knowingly trespassing at a private pool because some idiot posted invitations to parties at a pool where he didn't belong. The cop in the video is a raving lunatic. The neighbors did the right thing.
 
I agree, if this said pool party got out of hand to the point you need to call the cops then you call the cops. That one cop in particular caused more of a ruckus when he's ego got hurt by a few 15 year olds and handled the situation terribly.

We should be talking about the insane uncalled somersault he does at the very beginning of the video. :o
 
Yep! That's what I was saying that the media is portraying the cops as all being bad for a reason. They are only showing part of that video but not showing what totally happened. Show the neighbors that called the cops and you will see some of them were black as well! I saw that people are rallying for that officer to get fired saying black lives matter but where were those same people when the people were tearing up people's yards and fighting? They were not there and only seem to want to pick a side to seemingly cause trouble.
 
hmm, I'm all for them coming to stop the tearing up of yards and fighting, I'm sure there was ample reason for the police to be there based on the calls from neighbors. But, none of it excuses that officers actions, none. He rolled in there like there was an officer down, shots fired call.

I don't care how hot and aggravated he was or if he was having a bad day, it wasn't the Baltimore riots at 2AM with Molotov cocktails flying. Not all police are bad not even close, But police work as a profession doesn't seem right for that particular officer.
 
Bratton: Hiring Black Cops Is Hard Because We Jail So Many Black People

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In an interview with the Guardian about diversity and the NYPD, department commissioner Bill Bratton said something that at first seems baffling in its racism and stupidity: “We have a significant population gap among African American males [in the NYPD] because so many of them have spent time in jail and, as such, we can’t hire them.”

In other words, Bratton is arguing that because having been to jail is all but an insurmountable barrier to becoming an officer, and because so many black New Yorkers have been locked up, the NYPD is having an awfully hard time finding black people who are eligible to become cops. And presumably, that is why the police academy’s 2015 graduating class has the lowest percentage of black graduates since the 1960s. (6.8 percent of the upcoming class is black, compared to 7.3 percent in 1970, the Guardian points out.)

But if a disproportionate number of black New Yorkers have been arrested, who do we blame but the demonstrably biased police department that arrested them? Bratton is remarkably self-aware on this point:

Bratton blamed the “unfortunate consequences” of an explosion in “stop, question and frisk” incidents that caught many young men of color in the net. As a result, Bratton said, the “population pool [of eligible non-white officers] is much smaller than it might ordinarily have been”.​

Let’s briefly and unscientifically run the numbers on his claim. Black people make up roughly a quarter of New York City’s 8.4 million-person population, and across all ethnicities, roughly 78 percent of New Yorkers are over 18. Even if half of all black adults had been sufficiently ensnared by the law to prevent them from becoming cops, that leaves more than 800,000 black people living in the five boroughs who are eligible to fill spots on a roster of about 34,000 NYPD officers, or will be eligible in a few years (The minimum age to become a cop is 22). And with no policy requiring NYPD officers to live in the city they serve, those figures entirely leave out cops who live on Long Island or in Westchester. In attempting to gently repudiate stop-and-frisk—a policy that a federal judge called unconstitutional and discriminatory in 2013—Bratton has essentially overstated rates of black criminality by two or three orders of magnitude.

But he’s not wrong about this: The NYPD’s own history—and present—is the biggest obstacle between it and a more diverse police force.

Implicit in Bratton’s minor mea culpa is the idea that a brave new NYPD has since turned its back on the ugly dragnet that left so many black residents with criminal records. Leaving aside the fact that Bratton himself is widely credited with architecting stop-and-frisk in New York during his first stint as commissioner under Rudy Giuliani, that is wishful thinking. Yes, stop-and-frisk is decidedly down under Bratton, but “broken windows” policing—the aggressive pursuit of low-level lawbreakers like turnstile jumpers, sidewalk bicyclists, and public drinkers—is decidedly up. And just like with stop-and-frisk, the NYPD has been shown to drastically favor targeting poor people and people of color for these minor offenses.

“I just think that for a lot of officers, black men are viewed as something other than human beings,” Trevana Garel, a black woman and former NYPD internal investigator, told the Guardian. What is to be done? Policies like one highlighted in the Guardian article—the department is evaluating structural impediments toward black officership, like flawed written exams and a $3,000 fee for appealing a “negative psychological assessment”—are a good start. But until the fundamental racism that Garel points out is changed, it’s hard to imagine the department changing around it.

http://justice.gawker.com/bratton-hiring-black-cops-is-hard-because-we-jail-so-m-1710113669

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(in general terms amongst black cops in the US)
It may also be that police are mostly male, and in total US population, black men are only 6% of population. :shrug: If only a quarter wanted to be cops, that's down to 1.5%. Then you have to sort who is qualified... whew
 
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hmm, I'm all for them coming to stop the tearing up of yards and fighting, I'm sure there was ample reason for the police to be there based on the calls from neighbors. But, none of it excuses that officers actions, none. He rolled in there like there was an officer down, shots fired call.

I don't care how hot and aggravated he was or if he was having a bad day, it wasn't the Baltimore riots at 2AM with Molotov cocktails flying. Not all police are bad not even close, But police work as a profession doesn't seem right for that particular officer.

I agree. Like I said, dude is a raving lunatic.
 
Yep! That's what I was saying that the media is portraying the cops as all being bad for a reason. They are only showing part of that video but not showing what totally happened. Show the neighbors that called the cops and you will see some of them were black as well! I saw that people are rallying for that officer to get fired saying black lives matter but where were those same people when the people were tearing up people's yards and fighting? They were not there and only seem to want to pick a side to seemingly cause trouble.

I see your point, but the cop shouldn't had taken his gun out hence why he is being portrayed as a "bad cop". I for one am glad for the backlash it's generating and hearing that the cop has officially resigned.
 
Where did you come up with 6% of the population? Wikipedia shows the percantage of non-hispanic black or African-American population as 12.2%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

And that doesn't even include the large majority of mixed race individuals in the USA. You can't just pull numbers out of the air BvS.
You are confused. I said black men percentage is around 6%.
It may also be that police are mostly male, and in total US population, black men are only 6% of population.

Are you drunk? ;)
 
Ahh my mistake then. But still doesn't take into account the large amount of the population that is mixed race but most people still consider a good majority of them "black" just based on looks alone. Similar to what Obama gets labeled as
 
Ahh my mistake then. But still doesn't take into account the large amount of the population that is mixed race but most people still consider a good majority of them "black" just based on looks alone. Similar to what Obama gets labeled as
It wasn't based off of a huge demographics study. I'm just making a point how the pickings for black officers (who are usually male) is going to be low based on their population amount amongst the US. To get qualified white officers has the task of narrowing the legitimate choices down. That is a much higher pool to choose from though. To think of a country wide 1.5% (roundabout figure) pool for all states to choose from, kind of shows why there would be low figures imo.
 
I see your point, but the cop shouldn't had taken his gun out hence why he is being portrayed as a "bad cop". I for one am glad for the backlash it's generating and hearing that the cop has officially resigned.

If you watch the video, one of those kids got really close to his gun. If you were surrounded by angry people focusing on you and you think one of them was going for your gun, what would you do? Again, I'm not saying the cop is perfect but what I'm saying is I don't think he should be fired nor should this situation be used as some racist thing. It wasn't race based because some of the original people who called the police were black and the "victims" did not really help the situation at all.
 
If you watch the video, one of those kids got really close to his gun. If you were surrounded by angry people focusing on you and you think one of them was going for your gun, what would you do? Again, I'm not saying the cop is perfect but what I'm saying is I don't think he should be fired nor should this situation be used as some racist thing. It wasn't race based because some of the original people who called the police were black and the "victims" did not really help the situation at all.
2 men ran up beside him, when he was dealing with the girl. That's why he pulled it in ready position. I have no problem with that. Also, the girl was being belligerent. Could he have just let her get away with mouthing off and not following orders? Sure. Looking weak to the crowd and not ready to act was probably his worry. The cops were called there for a reason. The security couldn't deal with the amount of crashers. Fights were reported, from those who were agitators. eh, this isn't a race issue at all. Black neighbors were calling complaints from the party as well to get the police there.
 
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