Ultron is not a villain that should re-occur anytime soon. He is more Malekith than Loki. Maybe in Phase 5 or 6 when they've run out of characters and ideas.
Malekith was an obstacle. Ultron's a character.
Character? more like a quip machine who babbled a lot of deep stuff without really understanding much. He was fun to watch (and Spaders performance was excellent) but he wasn't anything resembling a character.
Maybe one day the MCU will learn how to write a villain, maybe they should ask Drew Goddard/Steven S Knight, they got it down first try.
I don't expect the original team to be back together 'til IW: Part 2.
Ultron is a being with anger, ego, insecurities, sadness, twisted motivations for the actions he takes, and a snarky, short-tempered personality to boot. He is most definitely a character, imo.
Character? more like a quip machine who babbled a lot of deep stuff without really understanding much. He was fun to watch (and Spaders performance was excellent) but he wasn't anything resembling a character.
Maybe one day the MCU will learn how to write a villain, maybe they should ask Drew Goddard/Steven S Knight, they got it down first try.
Ultron is a being with anger, ego, insecurities, sadness, twisted motivations for the actions he takes, and a snarky, short-tempered personality to boot. He is most definitely a character, imo.
But that's it. That's exactly who he is. He's like a teenager who starts thinking he knows better than everyone else. He babbles deep stuff but he doesn't have understanding. He takes stories from the bible and uses them as inspiration, he looks at humanity and sees only disease, and all he sees when he looks at Stark and the Avengers is a disgusting failure, but he's wrong about it all. That's exactly what his character is. He's like Stark's teenage son. He's also insecure and craves attention, just like a high schooler.
And that's why Vision is such a great antithesis of Ultron. He does understand. He does see beauty in what is imperfect. He too, like Ultron, knows humans are flawed and won't last, but he finds beauty and meaning in their struggle.
That last chat between them was absolutely beautiful.
Sorry dude, I just didn't feel it. I get it and I agree with what you are saying, but it wasn't executed as well as youre describing it. All the elements are there enough for you to fill in the blanks, but you shouldn't have to, the character work needs to be strong so that it's apparant that theres a reason for him being impetulant and childish, where is the time devoted to that pre-rampancy relationship between stark and ultron? where are the little character moments that show us that for all his flare and pomposity he still has no idea what he's on about? We had a brilliant little moment of insecurity during his conversation with Klaw but what about after that? It's just replaced with quips and jokes and cute little moments.
I agree with your assesment of vision, but end of the day it means nothing if they are just leaving it to your imagination, there was nothing in that film to truly nail in the fact that Jarvis/vision fully understands and cares about humanity flaws and all. He's just there.
Having good ideas presented on screen is great, but if you are only half baking it, then it's just as bad as not having them at all. (probably even worse)
where are the little character moments that show us that for all his flare and pomposity he still has no idea what he's on about? We had a brilliant little moment of insecurity during his conversation with Klaw but what about after that? It's just replaced with quips and jokes and cute little moments.
Having good ideas presented on screen is great, but if you are only half baking it, then it's just as bad as not having them at all. (probably even worse)
Yes.I don't think so, was it a very obvious one? Or was it subtle?
And him losing the twins' trust, and him telling BW he's got no one, and him telling JARVIS he feels wrong and confused once he's born, and him feeling he needed the vision's body to be a beautiful saviour and that the Avengers have taken that purpouse away from him, and him explicitly wanting to pit, in his own words, all the Avengers against all him, and his final scene with the Vision...
The half-backing excuse is just subjective at this point, it is one thing not to feel the same, but sometimes I feel I've watched longer version of the movie with a lot of scenes some conveniently leave out.
Yes.I don't think so, was it a very obvious one? Or was it subtle?
I actually don't think Vision destroyed him. From the beginning, he spoke of how he does not hate Ultron nor does he want to destroy him. He clearly feels a connection to Ultron, even sympathy.
I'm betting he pulled some Infinity Stone voodoo to spare Ultron.
The fact that this even happens during credits in relation to this story(Fine Ill do it myself..Suggest since Ultron failed) does that suggest that Thanos was behind Ultron in some way?
The fact that this even happens during credits in relation to this story(Fine Ill do it myself..Suggest since Ultron failed) does that suggest that Thanos was behind Ultron in some way?
It could, but I'd assume that scene with Thanos takes place shortly after Ronan's defeat. Nothing happens to lead us to believe that Thanos influenced Ultron's creation, other than the connection to the Mind Stone. I didn't see anything that made me think Thanos was in control of events there.
dumb question time in the marvel films JARVIS stands for Just Another Rather Very Intelligent System, what does F.R.I.D.A.Y. stand for?
Yes but remember Tony and banner agreed that they really weren't close to an Interface remember then out of no where he pops up...With an Evil intent and nature. Total Extinction of the Earth which is Thanos plans plus having passion of the Gem...
But it still doesn't leave out the fact that he was behind Ultron manifestation somehow since it was really never explain how Ultron ultimately came to be.
It cant be after Ronans defeat because he still doesn't have all of the Gems.Ronans Gem was taken by the Nova force no?
However having all the Gems as he did would suggest this event is after way after since Vision still has a Gem no?
Ultron is not a villain that should re-occur anytime soon. He is more Malekith than Loki. Maybe in Phase 5 or 6 when they've run out of characters and ideas.