Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 4

[Broseph44]

I thought all of Ultrons forms were great and thought Spader did an awesome job, he was one of my favorite MCU villains.

 

[PunyGod]

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[OcStat]

Been a while since I've posted on the Hype, but before I dive into all the things there is to say about this movie;

Did anyone go to see this and NOT see the scene in the opening battle where the Iron Legion flies down to the city to try and help the civilians?

Because that happened to me on my second viewing here at my local cinema. Different theater than when I saw it opening day. Went with a friend (a repeat viewing for him too) and it was so seamlessly snipped out we didn't even notice at first. Until the Iron Legion just files into Avengers Tower..."wait a second..."

 

[PunyGod]

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[OcStat]

Digital. Mentioned it to the staff, the manager had no clue. The cashier, who had seen the movie, remembered the Iron Legion scene, but saw it on the other of the two screens it was showing on there.

 

[flickchick85]

That seems like a plausible scenario for film (if some projectionist actually cut the film in the wrong place, which happens on occasion). Less so for digital, though. A digital print is one file that doesn't get edited or "assembled" by anyone. Maybe you just got distracted for a moment? It is a very quick scene, after all.

 

[OcStat]

I suppose I could have got distracted, but the scene is not that quick...Tony's order, the fly-by, "We're here to help"... I didn't nod off or anything. And my friend was the one who pointed it out to me.

 

[Jordanstine]

2012 Kevin Feige Interview on Deaths in MCU:

Apparently it was Feige who had planned for Coulson to die before he even brought in Whedon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN1V3H96g70

At the end of the interview, Feige said the reason for deaths in the MCU is it makes things unexpected, and based it like watching Game of Thrones - not knowing who lives.

He then laughed when the interviewer said he was going to put an online petition out to bring Coulson back to life, and ended by saying "you do know in the comic books, anything is possible."

#Quicksilver Petition anyone?

 

[OcStat]

Well, I think I lot of people would like more of the character but they sold his death well. Pretty sure I saw Cho at the New Avengers Facility, anything is possible.

 

[natey2k4]

You guys are crazy. Quicksilver's death made an impact for a lot of people. Maybe not everyone, but there were tears in my theatre. On top of that people screaming "no!" or gasping.

So while it doesn't have the impact if say Widow or Stark died... it was still a great scene that got a reaction.

 

[Jordanstine]

2012 Kevin Feige Interview on Deaths in MCU:

Apparently it was Feige who had planned for Coulson to die before he even brought in Whedon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN1V3H96g70

At the end of the interview, Feige said the reason for deaths in the MCU is it makes things unexpected, and based it like watching Game of Thrones - not knowing who lives.

He then laughed when the interviewer said he was going to put an online petition out to bring Coulson back to life, and ended by saying "you do know in the comic books, anything is possible."

#Quicksilver Petition anyone?

According to some news outlet the fan outcry for #RenewAgentCarter was one of the reasons that pushed Agent Carter's renewal for a 2nd season (not a fan of the show but good for them).

What hashtag should be used for Quicksilver to tweet it to @KevFeige @Louisde2 @TheRussoBros @JLatcham @Marvel @Avengers

#SaveQuicksilver

#BringBackQuicksilver

#LetQuicksilverLive

#SuperheroesDontDie

#AaronTaylorJohnsonWantsBack

 

[OcStat]

You guys are crazy. Quicksilver's death made an impact for a lot of people. Maybe not everyone, but there were tears in my theatre. On top of that people screaming "no!" or gasping.

So while it doesn't have the impact if say Widow or Stark died... it was still a great scene that got a reaction.

Audible gasps followed by stunned silence both of the times I saw it so far. I felt the impact for sure. I'd like for his to stay a meaningful death more than I'd like to see him return.

 

[Blade X]

Let's be honest for a minute. If Quicksilver becomes very popular among moviegoers, then Marvel will bring him back. Also, at one time, Feige was either denying or being coy about the existence of the real Mandarin in the MCU, and then Lo and behold it was revealed that the real Mandarin did exist in the MCU. And according to this recent article about the most popular Avengers from the movie, Quicksilver was pretty popular with American moviegoers.

http://www.ibtimes.com/avengers-age...erica-most-popular-hero-latest-marvel-1909294

The numbers crunched also shows a surprising amount of support for Quicksilver (Aaron Taylor-Johnson). In North American and global sectors, the new villain dominated the conversation over Ultron (James Spader), who seemed to take over only the European market. Sorry, Spader. Although Loki (Tom Hiddleston) was nowhere to be found in “Avengers: Age of Ultron,” he still cropped up in more than 9 percent of the global conversation centered on the baddies.

And speaking of that poll, it looks like Hawkeye is still the least popular of the 7 main original movie Avengers despite his added (IMO) boring as hell generic Hollywood movie background.

Despite the background added to his character, social media didn’t have much to say about Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner). The Avenger archer appeared in only 8 to 9 percent of online talk.

 

[PunyGod]

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[sdc10]

Audible gasps followed by stunned silence both of the times I saw it so far. I felt the impact for sure. I'd like for his to stay a meaningful death more than I'd like to see him return.

I went into the movie thinking that either War Machine or Hawkeye would bite the bullet. Thought it was genius how Hawkeye's own character arc in the film was basically that he was the most likely one to die. Still was caught by surprise by Quicksilver let out an audible "ahhh, son of a b****" to my friend next to me.

 

[Blade X]

These type of social media surveys have to be taken for what they are worth.

They just counted up the number of mentions of each character. Quicksilver is obviously going to get a lot of mentions since he is the only one to die. But this doesnt tell us if people actually liked him or not.

True, but the article said that he had a lot of support on social media from people who saw the movie. Hopefully that support will also extend to those who don't post on social media (or on comic book forums).

 

[drod1985]

Pietro's death got a good reaction of my theater as well. My wife even let out an audible "oh no!," and she isn't even in to comics/these movies apart from sharing them with me.

It was effective, but might could have been more effective with another reactionary scene or two.

 

[Hmarrs]

Spoiler

"Wha, you didn't see that coming?" t:

Wow but no Boltz at least the other one had some type of it on the side.However are you sure that's not a concept for the first one.
How do you know that was the Final one for the Alternative ending.

 

[drod1985]

I'm not 100% sure this isn't a concept for earlier in the film, but this is the most proper suit in the concept art that's been released. I have to assume this is what we would've seen had Pietro lived.

Once somebody gets their hands on the Art of Age of Ultron book we'll get confirmation.

EDIT: the book layout seems to have the concepts in chronological order, with Scarlett Witch's and Quicksilver's final costumes being the last piece of art displayed for each character. So yes, that most probably would've been his final suit.

 

[Hmarrs]

Let's be honest for a minute. If Quicksilver becomes very popular among moviegoers, then Marvel will bring him back. Also, at one time, Feige was either denying or being coy about the existence of the real Mandarin in the MCU, and then Lo and behold it was revealed that the real Mandarin did exist in the MCU. And according to this recent article about the most popular Avengers from the movie, Quicksilver was pretty popular with American moviegoers.

http://www.ibtimes.com/avengers-age...erica-most-popular-hero-latest-marvel-1909294



And speaking of that poll, it looks like Hawkeye is still the least popular of the 7 main original movie Avengers despite his added (IMO) boring as hell generic Hollywood movie background.

I'm not 100% sure this isn't a concept for earlier in the film, but this is the most proper suit in the concept art that's been released. I have to assume this is what we would've seen had Pietro lived.

Once somebody gets their hands on the Art of Age of Ultron book we'll get confirmation.

EDIT: the book layout seems to have the concepts in chronological order, with Scarlett Witch's and Quicksilver's final costumes being the last piece of art displayed for each character. So yes, that most probably would've been his final suit.

Gotcha.

 

[Hmarrs]

Let's be honest for a minute. If Quicksilver becomes very popular among moviegoers, then Marvel will bring him back.

Your so really and I think we all know that we just like to Vent and that's what they want to know if Quicksilver is worth it and when they see our response on these Blogs they get a sense.Sort of like a Poll.

Audible gasps followed by stunned silence both of the times I saw it so far. I felt the impact for sure. I'd like for his to stay a meaningful death more than I'd like to see him return.

I went into the movie thinking that either War Machine or Hawkeye would bite the bullet. Thought it was genius how Hawkeye's own character arc in the film was basically that he was the most likely one to die. Still was caught by surprise by Quicksilver let out an audible "ahhh, son of a b****" to my friend next to me.

Pietro's death got a good reaction of my theater as well. My wife even let out an audible "oh no!," and she isn't even in to comics/these movies apart from sharing them with me.
It was effective, but might could have been more effective with another reactionary scene or two.

All these Statements are true but what do you think would have happened if everything played out exactly as it did but when the New Avengers come out he would have come out with them in his New Outfit and said..."Wha you didn't see that coming"...If we would have thought he was dead up into that point would it have affected the impact of the story?

 

[MIKE10]

It was never explained but we have to assume Stark used his brain patterns to create Ultron.

I think these brain patterns you are talking about were used from the scepter....so that's why it doesn't make sense..

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think these brain patterns you are talking about were used from the scepter....so that's why it doesn't make sense..

the brain patterns were copied by Ultron, not Tony... Ultron manifested Tony's persona, likely either from getting imprinted by him studying the scepter, or by initially destroying jarvis.

 

[Hmarrs]

What do you think would have happened if everything played out exactly as it did but when the New Avengers come out he would have come out with them in his New Outfit and said..."Wha you didn't see that coming"...If we would have thought he was dead up into that point would it have affected the impact of the story?

 

[drod1985]

That would've further cheapened any deaths in the MCU. Loki, Bucky, Fury, Coulson...too many have "died" and then come back to life. In the comics its a bit of a necessary evil. In the MCU its just being played out.