Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - 3x09 - "Closure" - Discussion Thread

[Just_Human]

What is an Angelfire?

 

[Marvel]

I just love pissed off Coulson. I hope he does indeed have a laser finger and uses it to cave a hole in Ward's neck as a wink to Rosalind.

 

[Marvel]

I thought you wanted an Avenger? t:

 

[Eddie]

Angelfire isn't even connected to the Inhumans. It was this machine thing in X-Men. It's safe to say Fox has the Angelfire rights.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Malick may be in charge of HYDRA now, but that will change by the end of the season when he is replaced by this guy in the MCU:

Spoiler

 

[T"Challa]

I know Kingpin, Kilgrave and Loki get majority of the villain props but my man Ward has been putting in some serious work over the last couple of seasons. He's an awful man but boy, is he fun to watch.

AT this point, with all the horrible things he's done, i dont think there's any way he survives this season, at least not in his current incarnation. And that makes me sad. Dalton has been awesome,.

 

[Dr. Evil]

If Ward does survive, any chance he could end up in Tahiti?

 

[Eddie]

It's definitely possible. There aren't too many options at this point. He's going to either need to become an outright supervillain if he's to survive when damn near everyone is gunning for him or become a different person to eradicate "Grant Ward" without killing him.

 

[Heretic]

Ward is not only my favorite character on the show, he is my favorite character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I like the fact that he is basically the world's greatest henchman, and that if he wasn't so damaged he'd be the ultimate soldier, but is damaged, so he can be beat. I didn't give a crap about him as a good guy, and I really have no interest in him ever being redeemed. I also HATE the idea of him being killed. I want him to be this recurring threat that just sticks it to the team over and over and over again. If he is going to change his name and be a comic character, fine...whatever it takes to keep him alive and out there.

 

[jaqua99]

Ward is the only reason I find this show tolerable at this point. Skye I find intollerable, she's boringly perfect and predictable, the Fitz-Simmons thing finally has quieted down a little bit; the romance doesn't feel natural.

Ward has Borderline Personality Disorder without a doubt, it's why he does the things he does; it's his essence. I just started this episode, but it started perfectly. So far, a boring forced love interest is ended at the hands of the best character, which results in an unpredictable Coulson. Hopefully there isn't any "I know you" type speech from Skye that diffuses the situation. I feel she's a plot device sometimes.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I want him to be this recurring threat that just sticks it to the team over and over and over again. If he is going to change his name and be a comic character, fine...whatever it takes to keep him alive and out there.

I agree he could be a really fun recurring villain. Perhaps even something like this?:

Spoiler

 

[Marvolo]

WARRRRDDDD!!!

 

[MotherBox]

Any significance with Coulson's robot hand sticking out at the end?
It looked very deliberate.

 

[Pokkle]

Evil Ward is so awesome.
Angry Coulson was nice to see too.
I'm hype for the next episode on this other planet and for the secret warriors.

 

[chamber-music]

Ward ranks in my top four MCU villains. My other three are Killgrave, Kingpin and Loki.

Malick may be in charge of HYDRA now, but that will change by the end of the season when he is replaced by this guy in the MCU:

I'm not sure Zemo will be Hydra. The Russo's say he will be very different from his comic counterpart.

I liked Malick name dropping Pierce and Garrett in his little monologue.

Secret Warriors are coming together!

The guy that plays Banks is a villain working with Mike Colter (Luke Cage) on TNT show Agent X.

 

[Thoix]

I hate Ward. He's just annoying and needs to die.

 

[Silvermoon]

This episode is a perfect example why this show suffers from being connected with the Marvel Cinematic universe. In Age of Ultron. We see the entire Avengers go after a Hydra base. Meanwhile, we have a situation where Hydra is holding two key members of Shield and about to teleport a big villain. Yet, no mention of the Avengers (who have a new Shield base) instead we get a couple of Inhumans. Just would like to have had some explanation as to why not one Avenger was available. I do find it hard to believe they have not gotten one Avenger to appear on the show...I did read that Renner said he would be willing to appear.

The Avengers don't have a SHIELD base... the Avengers have an Avengers base.

As for why they're not present? Stories between stories. Just because there's not an active Avengers movie going on doesn't mean the characters are just sitting around twiddling their thumbs inworld. There are stories between the stories...they have their own problems, own missions that they're dealing with. Much like it's been in the comics for years.

Personally, it doesn't bother me.

 

[Darkraid]

I think they are setting either Coulson or Ward to get powers from the planet.

What's Hydra's fascination with the portal anyway? I might have not been really paying much attention to the past few episodes.

 

[MotherBox]

I think they are setting either Coulson or Ward to get powers from the planet.

What's Hydra's fascination with the portal anyway? I might have not been really paying much attention to the past few episodes.

Since that is one of the MAIN story lines you really have missed the point!

 

[Silvermoon]

I think they are setting either Coulson or Ward to get powers from the planet.

What's Hydra's fascination with the portal anyway? I might have not been really paying much attention to the past few episodes.

Here's Malick's history lesson to Ward from the previous episode (Ep 8: Many Heads, One Tale):

Malick: Red Skull was following the principal that Hydra was built upon, that the ultimate power was not of this world. But Hydra well, we're much, much older than that.

[Reveals an encased minilith]

Hydra's actually as ancient as this stone. This one here and other surviving stones like it have been passed down for 100 generations. Keep your eye on it, Mr. Ward, you don't want to miss it when it does its thing. This was cut from a much larger stone, a monolith that possesses otherworldly properties. Literally. It's a portal to another world. Thousands of years ago, an Inhuman was born on this planet that was destined to rule it, so powerful, so fearsome that others were consumed with dread, and so they banished it from the Earth, sent it through the portal to a distant planet.

[Minilith liquifies than resolidifies]

Hydra was founded with the sole purpose of engineering its return. Over generations, Hydra's taken different shapes. The entity has been given different names. But every generation has sent men through the portal, hoping to save or at least serve our leader on the other side. Now we're building an army for it to command when it returns, and you and I will rule beside it.

[Ward: Okay. That's, uh, a lot to take in.]

Malick: Well it's a tall tale, I know.

[Ward: And why exactly should I believe a word of it?]

Malick: Because we're closer than ever to the final chapter. We're gonna write it ourselves. But you don't have to believe me. I know you want revenge, to cut the head off of SHIELD, to watch it writhe. I'll help you do that.

[Ward: And in return?]

Malick: You'll help me learn how SHIELD was able to achieve something with the portal that Hydra, in thousands of years, has never been able to accomplish.

[Ward: And what is that?]

Malick: They brought someone back.

 

[DN91]

The Avengers don't have a SHIELD base... the Avengers have an Avengers base.

As for why they're not present? Stories between stories. Just because there's not an active Avengers movie going on doesn't mean the characters are just sitting around twiddling their thumbs inworld. There are stories between the stories...they have their own problems, own missions that they're dealing with. Much like it's been in the comics for years.

Personally, it doesn't bother me.

Besides, this show would get pretty old quick if they just called the Avengers to solve all their problems.

 

[MotherBox]

Rosalind Price is on the cast list for next week.
Are they just messing with us, or is it Tahiti again?

 

[Silvermoon]

Rosalind Price is on the cast list for next week.
Are they just messing with us, or is it Tahiti again?

My guess is either flashbacks or she could be credited simply due to the 'Previously on Marvel's Agents of SHIELD' bit that occurs at the beginning of some episodes. (or, since the press release for Ep 10 was released before Ep 9 aired... she may have been listed to avoid possibly spoiling that Ward would kill her in Ep 9)

 

[Darkraid]

Since that is one of the MAIN story lines you really have missed the point!

Didn't really pay attention to the talking.

 

[MotherBox]

My guess is either flashbacks or she could be credited simply due to the 'Previously on Marvel's Agents of SHIELD' bit that occurs at the beginning of some episodes. (or, since the press release for Ep 10 was released before Ep 9 aired... she may have been listed to avoid possibly spoiling that Ward would kill her in Ep 9)

I thought of all of those and thought "boring!"
I want T.A.H.I.T.I. t: