Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 1 Episode 10 "The Bridge" Discussion Thread

[cph9fa]

Maybe it's just me, but the actor playing Po has that creepy "child molestor" look to him. It must be his eyes.

No, it's not just you. He's got a sort of detached, psychotic indifference to everything around him.

I can't help but wonder if maybe the "Clairvoyant" is all some kind of ruse. Or maybe Po is the Clairvoyant, but he doesn't tell anyone that. I had the idea as a sort of wild "what-if" before seeing the episode, but then it still seemed like a good idea after watching the episode. The two key scenes were when Po said "That seat's taken" at the beginning, and then his discussion with Raina in the car later, when she started asking questions about what the Clairvoyant was like.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I can't help but wonder if maybe the "Clairvoyant" is all some kind of ruse. Or maybe Po is the Clairvoyant, but he doesn't tell anyone that. I had the idea as a sort of wild "what-if" before seeing the episode, but then it still seemed like a good idea after watching the episode. The two key scenes were when Po said "That seat's taken" at the beginning, and then his discussion with Raina in the car later, when she started asking questions about what the Clairvoyant was like.

 

[cph9fa]

Huh? I don't even... I don't get that reference... What? Not sure I even want to know...

 

[Vartha]

how do you know it was a bomb and not someone's lunch going off?

 

[Pond]

Huh? I don't even... I don't get that reference... What? Not sure I even want to know...

Its one of Schwarzeneggers best sci fi-action movies and one of Veorhevens best films, add to that a young Sharon Stone, Michael Ironside and Ronny Cox doing what they might do best and one of Goldsmiths classic scores and if you have any kind of interest in the genre or the people involved, i really recomend to you to check the original Total Recall out.

 

[Dr. Evil]

No, it's not just you. He's got a sort of detached, psychotic indifference to everything around him.

I can't help but wonder if maybe the "Clairvoyant" is all some kind of ruse. Or maybe Po is the Clairvoyant, but he doesn't tell anyone that. I had the idea as a sort of wild "what-if" before seeing the episode, but then it still seemed like a good idea after watching the episode. The two key scenes were when Po said "That seat's taken" at the beginning, and then his discussion with Raina in the car later, when she started asking questions about what the Clairvoyant was like.

I doubt this "Clairvoyant" is an actual Marvel character. It's probably Po.

 

[mkilban2]

It's Killian! (Cause we're still pre IM3 ) but idk maybe Modok?

 

[cherokeesam]

No, it's not just you. He's got a sort of detached, psychotic indifference to everything around him.

I can't help but wonder if maybe the "Clairvoyant" is all some kind of ruse. Or maybe Po is the Clairvoyant, but he doesn't tell anyone that. I had the idea as a sort of wild "what-if" before seeing the episode, but then it still seemed like a good idea after watching the episode. The two key scenes were when Po said "That seat's taken" at the beginning, and then his discussion with Raina in the car later, when she started asking questions about what the Clairvoyant was like.

Good call.
Po is very evasive about Raina or anyone else meeting or learning anything about this Clairvoyant. Could be entirely a proxy invention of his own mind.

 

[Dr Lee]

Until now, I've not really taken much interest in the idea that Coulson is Skye's father as I'd not really seen anything that supported the theory.

Initially, I saw his pausing outside of Skye's 'pod' (can't really call them anything else) as just an extension of the scene with him and Ward and 'understanding women' talk.

But then when he's imploring Mike to be with his son, I kinda got the vibe of a guy who has realised his mistakes with not being with their own kid as they grew up and just what he's lost out on.

 

[cherokeesam]

Until now, I've not really taken much interest in the idea that Coulson is Skye's father as I'd not really seen anything that supported the theory.

Initially, I saw his pausing outside of Skye's 'pod' (can't really call them anything else) as just an extension of the scene with him and Ward and 'understanding women' talk.

But then when he's imploring Mike to be with his son, I kinda got the vibe of a guy who has realised his mistakes with not being with their own kid as they grew up and just what he's lost out on.

Yeah, they've kinda hit us over the head with the whole fatherly Coulson bit....they *definitely* imply that he's *like* a father to her, but there's mounting evidence that he may actually be her father. The only thing I don't like about the scenario is that in the pilot episode, he just seems to regard Skye as an annoying hacktivist. He doesn't give off a "this is my long-lost daughter, whom I need to protect" vibe.

 

[3dman27]

perhaps he just thinks he; her father

 

[Dr Lee]

Yeah, they've kinda hit us over the head with the whole fatherly Coulson bit....they *definitely* imply that he's *like* a father to her, but there's mounting evidence that he may actually be her father. The only thing I don't like about the scenario is that in the pilot episode, he just seems to regard Skye as an annoying hacktivist. He doesn't give off a "this is my long-lost daughter, whom I need to protect" vibe.

The easy answer to that is that he wasn't aware of any possible connection until he started looking into her history

 

[metaphysician]

Why would the weight not be accurate? I linked to the companies website.

Not in the sense that your real world cites are inaccurate, but in the sense that the writers may not have intended for Mike to be pushing something so heavy.

 

[metaphysician]

Not to mention he traded blows with Loki. He struck Loki with his bare hand (okay, he was wearing a glove) at least once and I'm sure Loki either kicked or punched him. Considering just how powerful Asgardians can be, that should speak to his relative strength level. He's close enough to Asgardians to not be crumbled when hit.

This is true. I don't know, I just don't feel there is quite good enough evidence for full on Spider-man level strength. To use Marvel terms, Class 1-5? I can easily buy that, with the feats we've seen. Class 10? That means he'd be strong enough to not only pick up a car, but to throw it a good distance. . . and I just don't think we've seen any feats to make me comfortable saying that's the case. He's not quite Ultimate Cap, not yet.

Granted, Cap 2 may change this. Doing a high altitude jump without a parachute certainly points in the right direction, even if it was over water.

 

[henzINNIT]

Ward didn't take the shot when he first drew a bead on Raina and Po because they still had Mike's little boy at the time. Po chose that site well so that the sniper only had one possible vantage point that would be obstructed by the explosives-laden construction equipment during the hand-off.

Once the bad guys started to cart Coulson away May ordered Ward not to shoot because that would have cost the agent his life. She made the right decision since Coulson would have died when the bomb in the limo exploded even if Ward had taken out all of his captors. I've got my problems with the show but that scenario wasn't one of them.

Yeah, no. Don't buy it. Ward is supposed to be the best, and the enemy clearly wanted Coulson alive so he wouldn't be in danger. He could have taken out two exposed soldiers easily, and May had no reason to veto it (besides the plot contrivance of course).

...Not that it should have come to that anyway. As I said before, Mike withholding the truth from his allies was flat out ******ed. It's a shame it went down like that because Mike fell right into place with the cast and would have been a nice addition.

Meh.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Not in the sense that your real world cites are inaccurate, but in the sense that the writers may not have intended for Mike to be pushing something so heavy.

Ah, I getcha. I actually considered that but I guess there's no way to know.

Kind of funny that MCU power levels are already vague and seemingly inconsistent from one chapter to the next. Much like the source material.

 

[Xeno]

The easy answer to that is that he wasn't aware of any possible connection until he started looking into her history

That would be a ridiculously-contrived plot device straight out of a soap opera. Matter of fact, the exact same story is playing out right now on The Young and the Restless. I'm not being facetious, either. The new guy in town was suddenly revealed as the long-lost, never-mentioned son of a lead character. AOS will be swimming in the same cliche-riddled pond if it turns out that either Coulson or May (or both) are Skye's parent(s).

 

[hopeless]

Couldn't help feeling they cut something out there.
Would love to see a flashback in the next episode where its revealed Mike DID tell Coulson they wanted him ,but Coulson had him play it out like he didn't know.
Then it explains why they made such a big deal of marking Mike at the site rather than do it aboard the plane.

Why the heck wasn't Mike's son and sister put in the Witness Protection Program?
If they were how did Raina find them?

Oh...
That would explain why no other team was called in as Coulson had reason enough to suspect someone playing on the other side was providing Centipede with intel.

Coulson wants answers himself, being tagged without Skye knowing the team has orders to follow which May knows but perhaps all barring Fitz or Simmons (not sure which is which honestly!) don't know about the deception perhaps not even Mike.

Yes I believe Mike survived but if he was in on it, it was to make Centipede think they eliminated SHIELD's only stable Extremis Variant Super Soldier, if he wasn't... well someone said they saw him in the trailer for the next episode.

I think Po's superior is the one from Eye Spy and that's how and why the Extremis Soldiers' had that implant.
It might be the Red Skull's henchman from the First Avenger movie since he eventually (in the comics' anyway) transferred his mind into a robot-like form.

So it might be revealed that Po is Hydra and Centipede is AIM and we just witnessed their alliance without realising it.

Hold on Po said the Clairvoyant couldn't see the one Centipede was looking for, now if they meant Coulson then Fury assigned him his own team thereby avoiding any of the operatives co-opted by the Clairvoyant so does that mean Fury knows about SHIELD being infiltrated but doesn't know precisely how?

 

[Dr Lee]

That would be a ridiculously-contrived plot device straight out of a soap opera. Matter of fact, the exact same story is playing out right now on The Young and the Restless. I'm not being facetious, either. The new guy in town was suddenly revealed as the long-lost, never-mentioned son of a lead character. AOS will be swimming in the same cliche-riddled pond if it turns out that either Coulson or May (or both) are Skye's parent(s).

I can't see any outcome to Skye's mystery that isn't going to be soap opera-y.

If Skye isn't his, then there's no doubt he has been a father and suffered one of the worst kinds of losses a person can suffer.

 

[Xeno]

I can't see any outcome to Skye's mystery that isn't going to be soap opera-y.

If Skye isn't his, then there's no doubt he has been a father and suffered one of the worst kinds of losses a person can suffer.

Frankly, I thought that Coulson was thinking back to his failed relationship with the Cellist when he was talking to Mike. It was obvious from Coulson's previous conversation with Ward that he is in love with the woman and regrets the fact that his death and SHIELD's subsequent deception prevents him from ever seeing her again. Maybe he would have married her and tried for a normal family life if not for his career. So when Phil spoke to Mike he advised the man to think long and hard before choosing SHIELD over his own son and facing the same regrets he has. Only for Mike it would be even worse because Ace would suffer, too.

That interpretation is preferable to the improbable story about Coulson accidentally finding his long-lost daughter living in a van in an alleyway and unknowingly recruiting her. It reads like a combination of a soap opera and really bad fan fiction.

 

[Alex_Kidd]

but the real question is: Who's the mole?
The elicopter, getting Coulson, shot to Ward posted on the tower as if he had always known it was them. Who said to the Centipede's team?

for my Theory the "left right hand" of po will be nothing less than Victoria Hand herself. After the episode 5 she appear and try, covertly, to kill Ward and Fitz sending in a suicidal mission, now, in the 11th promo, seems she want prohibit to the team tu rescue Phil probably forcing the guys to break the rules. who knows he does not want to accuse them of insubordination to disbanding the group

 

[Xeno]

Agents of SHIELD recap: series one, episode 10 – The Bridge

This is a pretty good write-up from The Guardian's blog.


Another little thing occurred to me after rewatching this episode: In The Girl in the Flower Dress, Po told Raina that the Clairvoyant doesn't like being touched. Then in The Bridge, Raina tried to touch Po's hand while they were in the limo and he was visibly disturbed by it, if not outright repulsed. That could be a clue that Po is the Clairvoyant, as many suspect.

(Or he could have just been thinking, "Ew, das straight!" Beautiful women just don't do it for every man. )

 

[cherokeesam]

Agents of SHIELD recap: series one, episode 10 – The Bridge

This is a pretty good write-up from The Guardian's blog.


Another little thing occurred to me after rewatching this episode: In The Girl in the Flower Dress, Po told Raina that the Clairvoyant doesn't like being touched. Then in The Bridge, Raina tried to touch Po's hand while they were in the limo and he was visibly disturbed by it, if not outright repulsed. That could be a clue that Po is the Clairvoyant, as many suspect.

(Or he could have just been thinking, "Ew, das straight!" Beautiful women just don't do it for every man. )

Good point; but Po's reaction to Raina is wide open to interpretation. I personally didn't see any evidence of him being repulsed or disturbed; he would have snatched his hand back like it'd been scalded if that were the case. Instead, I think the scene was less than subtly hinting that Po and Raina were about to git bizzy right there in the car.

 

[Hulk1968]

Good episode but double cliffhanger

 

[starwolf_oakley]

I have a theory. The friend that Edison Po blinded survived the attack, and is Gustav Brandt, a.k.a. Libra. Libra has a whole "evil Daredevil" thing going for him, and is also the father of Mantis. In the original comics, Libra was a German soldier blinded in Vietnam and learned a psychic radar sense from the Priests of Pama.