Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD TV series for ABC - General Discussion - LEVEL 11 - Part 9

[Dark Raven]

Some people might have wanted it to be a surprise

It's on the front page, and I didn't even mention any names in my post. And when the season finale rolls around, the episode description will have his name for the individual episode thread.

 

[Web-Head]

It's on the front page, and I didn't even mention any names in my post. And when the season finale rolls around, the episode description will have his name for the individual episode thread.

Well, I don't even check the front page so I wouldn't know. It's not like it hurts anything by putting it in a spoiler tag.

 

[chicagodave]

Great news this has been such an amazing season.

 

[samsnee]

I get they have to raise the stakes for the finale, but then why aren't more super-powered people involved? I guess they'll argue that the Avengers are on the run, but Stark isn't a criminal. Vision is still out there, and he could purge Aida even easier than Ultron.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well, we don't want Vision getting affected by the Darkhold. He could be even more dangerous.

 

[Vartha]

With the Darkhold-technology-based machine being built, it seems its possible to bring people in the Framework to life. So with that assumption, it should be possible to bring back dead characters, such as Ward, Trip and, if by some reason Mace survived (after Aida deactivated his connection and thus unable to observe his revival in the Framework), The Patriot.

P.S. New to the site. Nice to meet you all.

Yeah I'm getting that vibe more and More too. A belated Welcome Aboard Jack!

 

[Mike Murdock]

I get they have to raise the stakes for the finale, but then why aren't more super-powered people involved? I guess they'll argue that the Avengers are on the run, but Stark isn't a criminal. Vision is still out there, and he could purge Aida even easier than Ultron.

Tony Stark isn't a superpowered person. And I don't get the impression that any of the agents of SHIELD who are on that plane flying around have Tony Stark's number on speed dial. And I doubt you can just look up Stark in the yellow pages and ask for Vision's help.

 

[Vartha]

I can see Deathlok. He HAS accessed computers

 

[Jackolus Gamer]

Yeah I'm getting that vibe more and More too. A belated Welcome Aboard Jack!

Hehe thanks mate.

A certain someone is coming back for the finale

Spoiler

http://tvline.com/2017/05/01/agents-of-shield-season-4-finale-ghost-rider-returns-gabriel-luna/

That would be the best way to end the already awesome season 4.

 

[Jackolus Gamer]

And speaking of how the rest of the season would go:

I can't believe Mack decided to stay (or maybe i could). His reluctance to accept the reality (lol) reminds me of the Cave Allegory, where people may be too drawn to their current level of awareness (Kinda like how that one guy who wanted to drap everyone back into the maze in Maze Runner). Mack's decision could add so much twist to the finale XD

Also, Fizz's trauma resulting from his action within the Framework and how he set events in motion to kill people - virtual, Agnes (someone already dead, but alive in the Framework) and Mace (an actual person) - could really change character dynamics future seasons. He's lived through two polar opposite lives - a testiment to his potential to be good and evil. I'm eager to see how his character would develop.

And lets not forget about Aida's Gordon-like teleportation ability at the end of the episode (I mean, seriously, it really came out of nowhere). This brings me back to how Gordon once talked to Jiaying about how he could track people (or Inhumans, i couldn't remember. Help me out here guys and girls) through the Aether.

And remember Tobias Ford, the guy from way back when who caused a particle accelerator to explode ' which caused*a portal to another world to briefly open. Ford was drawn through the portal and became stuck*in-between this*world and a world Ford described as "Hell" '. (http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Tobias_Ford) ?

I am not that bright and can't really word it, but I feel like there's a connection with Hell with Aida's newfound ability, and the fact that she made use of the Darkhold.

 

[Jackolus Gamer]

This is my theory for the rest

So Im guessing one last trip in the framework is required before the season ends

Aida will want to go back in now that she knows the machine works & she will wanna start bringing people into the real world & she will need Fitz for something so she brings him along

Fitz being Fitz again will escape Aida / Hydra

Fitz can say run into Mack & Hope

Mack quickly sees that Daisy & Simmons was telling the truth about Fitz & that Fitz is normal again

Mack tells Fitz that he knows everything is fake but he stayed behind for Hope

Fitz tells Mack theres a machine that can make Hope a human body & bring her into the real world

Mack takes Fitz to good guy Ward & Trip

Daisy goes back in to get Mack back after Coulson / May tells Daisy about how Aida has a machine that can make her a human body knowing that Mack will come back if Hope can

Fitz, Daisy, Mack, Ward, Trip meet up

Fitz traps Aida inside the framework with the help of Radcliffe & in the real world destroys it

Real world reunions for everybody

Lets not forget about the LMDs that are still running SHIELD headquarter, along side god-knows-how-many Daisy LMDs that are programed for Seek-And-Destroy after the real Daisy called every Inhuman to drop by. Can't imagine their faces when they realised their idol Quake is serving knuckle sandwiches instead of a welcoming tea party...

 

[Jackolus Gamer]

Im pretty sure Daisy destroyed the headquarters to destroy the LMDs dude

I have always assumed that since May LMD was stationed at the entrance to the hanger and that she held the trigger to the bombs that seems to have no visible wiring to anywhere outside that pathway, the explosives were limited to be enough to kill only people within the hanger rather than the whole base.

I only saw the hanger with flame, but not the rest of the base. So all the LMDs being destroyed should be just an assumption right?

 

[Jackolus Gamer]

I have always assumed that since May LMD was stationed at the entrance to the hanger and that she held the trigger to the bombs that seems to have no visible wiring to anywhere outside that pathway, the explosives were limited to be enough to kill only people within the hanger rather than the whole base.

I only saw the hanger with flame, but not the rest of the base. So all the LMDs being destroyed should be just an assumption right?

Well we now know that the whole base is down from the last episode, we can definitely confirmed your theory. But I guess paranoia would still be running about with the idea of possible LMDs posing as their real counterparts.

This brings me to another question: since Daisy showed Jemma her powers to prove that she's not a robot, why didn't she just blasted General Talbot and his men off their feet? It would serve as very conclusive evidence. But Talbot and his men were already scared without seeing the power. Could they have been replaced by LMDs and have been notified that the real Daisy is out? Hmm...

Such a shame the squard that got Daisy and Jemma out of the base during the overrun were mostly killed. I kinda like them. I hope Davis somehow survived since we never get to see him getting killed. But given at how Aida rushed at him like he just ate her favourite pizza...

And I am seeing a potential plot hole when Aida went in to save Mack - how is he still alive when he technically got unplugged during the teleportation? I am giving the doubt that there are some short-term mechanisms that keeps the people plugged into the framework when they get disconnected.

And Yo-Yo - she looked like she was on the Inhuman power-testing chair in the Hydra base, which seems overrun.

And lets not forget... THE GHOST RIDER RETURNED!!!

 

[Silvermoon]

Well we now know that the whole base is down from the last episode, we can definitely confirmed your theory. But I guess paranoia would still be running about with the idea of possible LMDs posing as their real counterparts.

This brings me to another question: since Daisy showed Jemma her powers to prove that she's not a robot, why didn't she just blasted General Talbot and his men off their feet? It would serve as very conclusive evidence. But Talbot and his men were already scared without seeing the power. Could they have been replaced by LMDs and have been notified that the real Daisy is out? Hmm...

Such a shame the squard that got Daisy and Jemma out of the base during the overrun were mostly killed. I kinda like them. I hope Davis somehow survived since we never get to see him getting killed. But given at how Aida rushed at him like he just ate her favourite pizza...

And I am seeing a potential plot hole when Aida went in to save Mack - how is he still alive when he technically got unplugged during the teleportation? I am giving the doubt that there are some short-term mechanisms that keeps the people plugged into the framework when they get disconnected.

And Yo-Yo - she looked like she was on the Inhuman power-testing chair in the Hydra base, which seems overrun.

And lets not forget... THE GHOST RIDER RETURNED!!!

Does Talbot know that LMD's can't replicate Inhuman powers? (if he didn't, than even if Daisy did send a quake at him, it might not have been enough to convince and might have just served to piss him off more).

As for Aida unplugging Mack, I chalked it up to Aida being much more familiar with the pods and the Framework hookup (since she built them) which allowed her to be able to extract his body safely without frying his brain/interfering with his connection to the Framework.

 

[terry78]

So it's renewed.

 

[Inhuman117]

now that new Theme can we expect now , and what new Characters we wll see in season 5

 

[Hunter Rider]

Glad we are getting a season 5, I wonder if they'll find a way to bring Ward back.

 

[Guard82]

This season has been great. I'm already stoked for Season 5!

 

[Vartha]

Glad we are getting a season 5, I wonder if they'll find a way to bring Ward back.

I would rather they brought Trip back lol

 

[just one thing]

now that new Theme can we expect now , and what new Characters we wll see in season 5

wouldn't mind a bit of time travel or going undercover evaluating powered individuals or aliens. if its the last season would like to see that asgardian fella in it, a good character. But they are better at this than i am. So i don't expect any of that.

thor Ragnarok

black panther

infinity war

are the movies for 2017/2018. are there any noticeable side street characters or theames that can be played with in an environment were those movies are going to be the pushed heavy by marvel.

 

[Vartha]

I can see some early season Ragnarok tie-in.

 

[DawnWarrior]

If we're talking tie-ins, I wonder if anyone's gonna investigate the giant blob Celestial Ego-matter that just popped up on earth and almost swallowed a nearby town. Or if the timeline I read is accurate, it's been sitting there for three years without anyone on this show going down to check it out.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Rip

 

[Vartha]

Well I guess if CBS is confirming it and Beau Bridges has tweeted it too, he HAS passed
Powers Boothe has passed at 68.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/powers-boothe-dead-age-68/

 

[scarlet-witch]

Oh no, that's awful RIP