Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD TV series for ABC - General Discussion - Part 7

[Infinity9999x]

Anyone remember if Skye's "I'm in" text went anywhere? For some reason it popped into my head today and I can't remember if the show mentioned whether it was to mystery villain or just that boyfriend guy that showed up for one episode.

It was the boyfriend guy. She was sending him information initially.

 

[Trimmings]

It was the boyfriend guy. She was sending him information initially.

Ah, thanks. Guess her loyalties aren't really in question anymore then

 

[Endeavor]

it was sent to the ex boyfriend hacker *****ebag

edit: nevermind already answered

 

[The Ironstar]

http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-prin...-shield-cameo-and-his-hopes-for-the-abc-drama

HitFix: When you're in the middle of this Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. world, does it feel like the thing that you created with Jack Kirby way back in the day? Or does it feel like it's become an entirely different thing?

Stan Lee: It actually is a little bit... I think I'd use the word "tamer." It's a little bit tamer than the script I did with Jack, but that's because it's on television and there's only so much they can do photographically and so forth. I think that little by little, it's gonna be a little bit wilder and little bit more far out, which I would like to see.

Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-prin...s-hopes-for-the-abc-drama#0TFCmEZgP7KjrIBg.99​

 

[The Ironstar]

HitFix: You said that you hoped and assumed that "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." would get wilder as it goes along. What do you think that the show has been doing well so far?

Stan Lee: They've been doing the characterizations beautifully. It's been an intelligent show. There's been a lot of suspense. They're building up the mystery. I think they're doing very well. I just think they need to put something in that's going to excite the viewers a little bit more, to make the viewers go, "Wow! I never expected that

Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/the-fien-prin...s-hopes-for-the-abc-drama#0TFCmEZgP7KjrIBg.99​

 

[Dark Raven]

I just remembered that Stan Lee had a cameo in the last episode. I forgot all about it with Deathlok.

 

[Xeno]

Ah, thanks. Guess her loyalties aren't really in question anymore then

Rising Tide has been completely dropped by the writers. It's still not clear whether there were more people involved than Skye and her **** buddy. At first it was played up as this major outside group trying to disrupt SHIELD but the producers seem to have lost interest once Skye's betrayal was discovered.

 

[Lord]

Wasn't Skye the leader of Rising Tide?

 

[Xeno]

I don't understand how you don't enjoy seeing these rookie agents growing and learning on the job, their missions are probably much harder than whatever else agents of their status on other teams are doing. Why do you expect that every agent is coming out of the academy as flawless? This show with all May level agents would be painstakingly terrible. You can't enjoy this show because you've warped this fantasy image of what you wanted to the show to be. The way they've done it with this team of inexperienced agents learning and growing and progressing has been fantastic in my eyes. I want to see them take risks and struggle so they then improve, which has been happening. The team is developing greatly since we first saw them and will continue to grow. Coulson picked these people for a reason, I'm sure he had his pick of the shield litter and could have had any agents.

I don't understand why you think that having competent agents on the team "would be painstakingly terrible." Watching Coulson play Supernanny to a group of amateurs actually is terrible at times. A well-trained team could be put through its paces by the freak-of-the-week just as well as the untrained, unskilled rookies have been, and they would be far more interesting to watch.


When AOS was announced I assumed that it would be about Coulson leading a team of SHIELD's best and brightest as they responded to the weird and wonderful things that were suddenly cropping up on the MCU's version of Earth. The actual show has delivered pretty much the opposite of that. It's enjoyable at times but just as often excruciating to watch them flail around.

 

[Xeno]

Wasn't Skye the leader of Rising Tide?

She was taking orders from Miles at one point and talked about how he had trained her to hack. No other members of the group have ever been explicitly mentioned on the show so it's impossible to know whether the two of them were the entire thing. After the fifth episode Rising Tide was more or less forgotten anyway.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I don't understand why you think that having competent agents on the team "would be painstakingly terrible." Watching Coulson play Supernanny to a group of amateurs actually is terrible at times. A well-trained team could be put through its paces by the freak-of-the-week just as well as the untrained, unskilled rookies have been, and they would be far more interesting to watch.


When AOS was announced I assumed that it would be about Coulson leading a team of SHIELD's best and brightest as they responded to the weird and wonderful things that were suddenly cropping up on the MCU's version of Earth. The actual show has delivered pretty much the opposite of that. It's enjoyable at times but just as often excruciating to watch them flail around.

Because every skilled and trained shield agent we've seen in the marvel cinematic universe thus far ... While able to kick such ass is also typically void of much personality and are the strong bland silent type. They're trained to be that way. Like i said.... A show full if Coulsons , Mays , and Wards would very boring as all hell . You been characters like skye fitz and simmons to juxtapose and bring out character in those agents. Its called good story telling

 

[Jammat]

She was taking orders from Miles at one point and talked about how he had trained her to hack. No other members of the group have ever been explicitly mentioned on the show so it's impossible to know whether the two of them were the entire thing. After the fifth episode Rising Tide was more or less forgotten anyway.

The show has a 2 year plan, there's plenty of chance to bring it back.

I watch a TV show called New Tricks in the UK, if you haven't heard of it it's a show about retired police officers who were brought out of retirement to solve old crimes. It's been running for about 10 years and a couple of original cast members recently left the series. One of whom left the squad having solved a mystery about how a young man was killed in custody while he was on duty as a young constable. I watched the first series again a couple of days ago and that story was set up in episode one, in fact it was the reason why that character joined the unsolved crime squad in the first place, but it took 10 years to resolve.

I mention this because I don't think it's a failing of a show not to keep reminding the audience of each mystery, and when something does come back it is a reward for those who recall it.

 

[Crimson King]

Because every skilled and trained shield agent we've seen in the marvel cinematic universe thus far ... While able to kick such ass is also typically void of much personality and are the strong bland silent type. They're trained to be that way. Like i said.... A show full if Coulsons , Mays , and Wards would very boring as all hell . You been characters like skye fitz and simmons to juxtapose and bring out character in those agents. Its called good story telling

If a show full of Coulsons is boring as hell, they shouldn't center the show around him.

It's obvious what they're trying to do with the SHIELD brat pack (balance, as you say) but that doesn't mean it's working. It's called an "attempt" at good storytelling.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

If a show full of Coulsons is boring as hell, they shouldn't center the show around him.

It's obvious what they're trying to do with the SHIELD brat pack (balance, as you say) but that doesn't mean it's working. It's called an "attempt" at good storytelling.

I think it's been working just fine. the show has been about 2 factions essentially having to learn to work together because of all there skill-sets. 3 just have a greater skill set on each side than the other does. There's that polarity that works very well... and we've seen both sides grow as characters because of it. Skye/Fitz/Simmons are all "manning up" and learning from the field agents, while Coulson, May, and Ward are slowly learning how to "open up" and get some of that humanity back that the other 3 are full of.

That's something the show is doing VERY right. And is HARDLY the problem with the show.

Honestly, other than a few questionable casting choices (Ward) the only thing i would have changed about the show, is that for the Movie-tie in episodes... give us episodes that are taking place at the same exact time as the film... how cool would it have been if we saw the agents taking cover (while looking out the windows of the library) as Thor was beating down Malekeith? Interweave those stories together seamlessly using clips and footage from the movies. It would make things a bit more interesting.

 

[cph9fa]

When AOS was announced I assumed that it would be about Coulson leading a team

There's a team, and he's leading them.

Check.

of SHIELD's best

Even ignoring the "highest marks since Romanov" comment, Ward is a pretty highly skilled operative in a lot of fighty-type things.

And May is the legendary cavalry who can use the knife you just planted in her shoulder to cut herself down and take out you and your goons. She is also able to pull a 180 in cargo plane, and fly it into the eye of a superstorm.

And as a team, they were able to out-perform all of Hand's other teams, in finding and rescuing Coulson. And were also successful in taking on a mission without an exfiltration plan, just like Barton and Romanov.

Check.

and brightest

IIRC, FitzSimmons were the youngest academy graduates. They have been shown doing quite brilliant things, like curing an alien electro-virus, building back-scatter X-Ray glasses, and miniaturizing the night-night pistol.

Check.

as they responded to the weird and wonderful things that were suddenly cropping up on the MCU's version of Earth.

Like, say, HYDRA lasers, Gravitonium bombs, Ice storm machines, teleporting dead people, alien electro viruses, and extremis armies.

Check and checkmate.

 

[Endeavor]

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Check.

Check.

Check.

Like, say, HYDRA lasers, Gravitonium bombs, Ice storm machines, teleporting dead people, alien electro viruses, and extremis armies.

Check and checkmate.

and don't forget this thing:

 

[cherokeesam]

If a show full of Coulsons is boring as hell, they shouldn't center the show around him.

It's obvious what they're trying to do with the SHIELD brat pack (balance, as you say) but that doesn't mean it's working. It's called an "attempt" at good storytelling.

I think the "brat pack" were brought in for the sole purpose of attracting a younger demographic. Not sure they succeeded at that angle. The character roles of Skye, Fitz and Simmons could have easily been replaced by more mature actors and it probably would've worked better. Would've been an older viewing audience, sure, but that's probably a *good* thing for network TV. The tweenie audience would've never been onboard a show like this anyway.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

im not so sure about that notion, Ward is just as young... The Brat Pat is just typical Whedon with a mid 20s to mid 30s cast... its what his shows typically excel at writing. It's a trade mark if you will... if it weren't for the "brat pack" we'd never get fun pop culture references that's a staple for Whedon shows.

that and like i said before... they cause a nice polarity with Ward, May, and Coulson

 

[Huddsy]

 

[brisa25]

they got her back for that..!! did you see the toilet picture lol

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Check and checkmate.

 

[Crimson King]

im not so sure about that notion, Ward is just as young... The Brat Pat is just typical Whedon with a mid 20s to mid 30s cast... its what his shows typically excel at writing. It's a trade mark if you will... if it weren't for the "brat pack" we'd never get fun pop culture references that's a staple for Whedon shows.

that and like i said before... they cause a nice polarity with Ward, May, and Coulson

When you say "Whedon" are you referring to Joss or Jed? Because I don't think Jed (who's writing everything) really excels at writing as much as his brother does.

 

[Huddsy]

they got her back for that..!! did you see the toilet picture lol

No haha. I love that they seem like family on the show, though...

 

[Endeavor]

they got her back for that..!! did you see the toilet picture lol

http://instagram.com/p/kYDerfF37D/#

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Ahahahaha!