Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD TV series for ABC - General Discussion - Part 7

[Whiskey Tango]

Is the pot is a magical alien space beast, and the kettle is Coulson having sex with Agent May because they both use the same brand of toothpaste?

Look everyone. Speculation!

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Learn to debate with some decorum

Oh, if only.

 

[cherokeesam]

Go home, Whiskey....you're drunk.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I don't give a damn if people agree with my speculations or opinions or not. That's *never* part of the equation. Whether I'm right or wrong in an argument, I don't care; I'm just expressing an opinion. The only times I get into "holier than thou/condescending" mode, if that's what you want to call it, is when YOU guys start in with snark and snide insults. Damn straight I'll throw that **** back in your faces.

Learn to debate with some decorum, and I'll gladly extend the courtesy. Otherwise, I can sling mud same as you guys.

I don't think you've understood the concept of "decorum" considering no one actually attacks you ...

Its just tiresome to even bother discussing some concepts with you. There's almost no point especially when you act 100% convinced on theories and explanation to the point where you're justifying your opinion on unconfirmed theories

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I don't think you've understood the concept of "decorum" considering no one actually attacks you ...

Keep in mind you're talking to someone who makes a post like this and then pretends to not understand how that can antagonize someone.

And if that isn't enough, calling them a drunk is a surefire way to win them over. But you don't have to be drunk to recognize a troll.

 

[Gr0oT]

Now that I think of it this whole Deathlok anticipation I got inside of me will probably only be teased in the next episode.

The whole show seems to be taking place aboard the train and the description of the scene with Deathlok is most certainly not a part of that, and pretty much fits as one of these before credit "stingers".

I wish they'd just shut their mouths about it if there isn't anymore payoff than a glimpse. And if it is just a glimpse it better be good.

 

[Human Torch]

I don't know how many times I've pointed out that Coulson being referred to as a "thing" gives no solid proof whatsoever that he's an alien.(The same can be said of Skye.)But,Sam wants to hold on to his theories as if they're facts. I hope for his sake he turns out to be right.t:

 

[hopeless]

are you watching a different show?
Ward other than the development of his brother dying, is the only one who really hasn't grown much.... and is the one i see as the most expendable.

WAIT! Ward's brother died?

When did that happen?

 

[Dark Raven]

WAIT! Ward's brother died?

When did that happen?

Well, well, well... someone hasn't being paying attention.

 

[Docker2.0]

Watch an ABC show like Castle. That has no "supers" in it, because it's a show about normal, regular people who are still heroes. Yet that cast and all the characters are far more engaging and charismatic than any of the actors in AOS.

The Blacklist is another show that doesn't contain any "supers". Yet James Spader has the charisma to drive the entire show by himself, and Megan Boone and Harry Lennix are no slouches either.

I wouldn't care if they didn't have any super-powered characters in AOS as long as they gave us better actors in the role, better characters and better plotting. Castle is fairly episodic but occasionally has a bigger story arc. However, it still is miles above AOS.

If they can't give us better actors (as it's a little late now), then AOS need to add someone with the charisma of James Spader to the cast who will literally infuse the entire show with his dominant personality and change the entire dynamics of both the team and the way the other actors play off this star player.

Spot. On.

 

[Docker2.0]

Hey sam, from now on just don't quote or respond to anything I say, alright? Put me on ignore, whatever. I am sick of this condescending attitude you have whenever someone disagrees with your ridiculous fanfic. We've already been into it twice over your crap and I've had it. Enough is enough.

LMAO! I couldn't tell you why but this post made me spit out my pineapple juice! I can literally feel the anger in this. Don't want any trouble, just saying.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

WAIT! Ward's brother died?

When did that happen?

I thought it was pretty obvious that ward had a traumatuzing event where it was insinuated his brother ended up drowning and he blamed himself for it?

EDIT: my bad. I remembered the scene wrong. His brother was abusive and shoved him down a well. No deaths still lots of trauma

 

[cherokeesam]

Keep in mind you're talking to someone who makes a post like this and then pretends to not understand how that can antagonize someone.

And if that isn't enough, calling them a drunk is a surefire way to win them over. But you don't have to be drunk to recognize a troll.

I made a post like that ^ in response to *your* post about "Why is this even being debated?" Insinuating that I'm a dumb-ass for even daring to *think* such a thing, that (gasp) SHIELD --- including Coulson's little splinter cell --- has supers in their ranks.

And I "pretended not to understand" your over-the-top overreaction in that completely unrelated other thread to a comment I made about Steve and Natasha hooking up, a comment that wasn't the least bit directed at you.

See, this is why I say that you make things personal. You argue with the *poster*; I argue with the *argument.* I can (and do, and still am) arguing with someone in one thread, and completely agreeing with them on something else in another thread. I can do that; and that's why I don't make it personal. Multitasking is a thing.

 

[Crimson King]

Watch an ABC show like Castle. That has no "supers" in it, because it's a show about normal, regular people who are still heroes. Yet that cast and all the characters are far more engaging and charismatic than any of the actors in AOS.

The Blacklist is another show that doesn't contain any "supers". Yet James Spader has the charisma to drive the entire show by himself, and Megan Boone and Harry Lennix are no slouches either.

I wouldn't care if they didn't have any super-powered characters in AOS as long as they gave us better actors in the role, better characters and better plotting. Castle is fairly episodic but occasionally has a bigger story arc. However, it still is miles above AOS.

If they can't give us better actors (as it's a little late now), then AOS need to add someone with the charisma of James Spader to the cast who will literally infuse the entire show with his dominant personality and change the entire dynamics of both the team and the way the other actors play off this star player.

^THIS

I'm worried by what I'm hearing from the actors and showrunners. They seem to think that nothing is wrong and that their plan is great, it's the people that don't get it.

I'm looking forward to Deathlok, Lorelei, and Sif, but they need to fix the underlying problems with the show and not just pretty up the surface.

 

[hopeless]

I thought it was pretty obvious that ward had a traumatuzing event where it was insinuated his brother ended up drowning and he blamed himself for it?

EDIT: my bad. I remembered the scene wrong. His brother was abusive and shoved him down a well. No deaths still lots of trauma

I thought it was Ward who lowered a rope to save the boy who had been pushed in with Ward's older brother threatening to push him in to if he did.

Anyway, oh that episode!

 

[Endeavor]

It was Ward who was lowering the rope, he's the middle child. The one inside the well is the youngest and the bully is the older brother.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I thought it was Ward who lowered a rope to save the boy who had been pushed in with Ward's older brother threatening to push him in to if he did.

Anyway, oh that episode!

Yeah i thought someone died. The wiki basically just says abusive brother. I forget there was a third boy. I can't remember which was ward

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It was Ward who was lowering the rope, he's the middle child. The one inside the well is the youngest and the bully is the older brother.

So the youngest brother drowned then? And ward blames himself?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

LMAO! I couldn't tell you why but this post made me spit out my pineapple juice! I can literally feel the anger in this. Don't want any trouble, just saying.

No worries. It won't be happening again. He's someone else's problem now.

 

[Endeavor]

So the youngest brother drowned then? And ward blames himself?

I think it was left open-ended on purpose. I thought the kid drowned, because he looked like he was already tired of swimming and was starting to go under. BUT, we don't know for sure. Maybe he suffered brain damage but survived? Maybe he's just traumatized by the incident. There are many reasons why Ward would feel guilty about it... Plus, when he first told Skye about his brothers it sounded like he got to learn to fight so he could protect his little brother. In that flashback he didn't fight off his older brother, so that means his little brother would have to have survived for him to be able to defend him at a later time?
We'll see.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think it was left open-ended on purpose. I thought the kid drowned, because he looked like he was already tired of swimming and was starting to go under. BUT, we don't know for sure. Maybe he suffered brain damage but survived? Maybe he's just traumatized by the incident. There are many reasons why Ward would feel guilty about it... Plus, when he first told Skye about his brothers it sounded like he got to learn to fight so he could protect his little brother. In that flashback he didn't fight off his older brother, so that means his little brother would have to have survived for him to be able to defend him at a later time?
We'll see.

yeah, possibly. Or the incident of his brother's death lead him to learn to fight off his brother.

I wonder if his brother will become a villain we all know? the Situation honestly sounds very similar to WonderMan and Grim Reaper's not saying they end up being those characters... but, it does sound similar.

 

[Endeavor]

I wonder if his brother will become a villain we all know? the Situation honestly sounds very similar to WonderMan and Grim Reaper's not saying they end up being those characters... but, it does sound similar.

Hmmm, could it be?

naaaah

 

[Endeavor]

Although with Lorelei making an appearance we could potentially have this:

 

[spideyboy_1111]

lol dalton and Simon certainly look similar. But unless Ward isn't really his last name... I really wouldn't want them to pull a "Wonderman in Name only"

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'd rather not have Wonderman in the MCU at all and if he does ever appear in the MCU, I'd rather see Dwayne Johnson play him.