Alba's new comments....

[Bishop2]

Since when is Sue more powerfull than the rest of the FF?

For the record, Doom agrees with this assessment. In "Authoratative Action," he mentions how Sue is by far the most powerful of the four, but she is unwilling to use her power. Of course, when he possesses her body, he shows off some of the crazy crap he thinks she should do, which mostly involves impaling people with force-fields and such.

 

[Kelly]

Uuh, I have bad feeling about this. Sue ain't no Rogue. Did Alba request more 'cause she's a "star"? I hate divas. She ain't even that good looking.

And Silver Surfer as a love interest... If you can't get Namor that doesn't mean you make SS the movieverse Namor. Damn.

Come on guys lets not get silly here....its one thing to be upset about deviation, love triangles, too much emphasis on one character (if indeed this does happen), but you are getting silly with this...

 

[Exile]

^^^ Doom will be in FF2?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

One thing we have to keep in mind is that we're getting things filtered through Jessica's perspective. I have heard her say things regarding the first film that I didn't really agree with, so it's possible that some of the things she's saying here either aren't intended exactly as she's saying them or they are there, but not important to the broad story . . . just elements that she feels are important to her particular character. Her statements are also somewhat vague and may refer to different things.

Take this quote for example:

"There is a little tension between the Silver Surfer and Reed," Alba said of the script, which will finally bring the legendary Marvel character to the big screen. The cosmos-roaming Silver Surfer has gained an army of loyal fans with his conflicted, complicated story line. Of the Surfer, Alba said: "He's a little good and a little bad. So it's just a matter of, 'What does Sue Storm bring — the good or the bad — out of that boy?'"

Well . . . yeah, the surfer is a little good and a little bad. After all he is a harbinger of doom . . . but he does have good intentions in the end. I would imagine there would be some tension between Reed and the Surfer if, for example, Reed suspects the Surfer is a harbinger of doom, but he can't get that information out of him.

 

[gerbstat]

 

[Kevin Roegele]

The logical thing for Doom to do is steal the Surfer's, or Galactus' powers, as he did in the comic.

 

[Exile]

Thats very interesting because i don't recall Julian McMahon being quoted saying that he was going to be in FF2...if he is though that would be great. Although he wasn't written as the Doom we had hoped he would be, the final scene of the movie certainly showed that we hadn't heard the last of Victor Von Doom.

 

[Exile]

The logical thing for Doom to do is steal the Surfer's, or Galactus' powers, as he did in the comic.

I can totally see him coming up with a way to steal the powers of the Silver Surfer or Galactus (like he did in Secret Wars) but that was in the comic where he had no powers of his own to begin with other then his suit technology. His movie incarnation boasts a considerably formidable array of cosmic powers (super strength, partial invulnerability, energy absorption and electrical projection) If he is in the movie I would like to see him matching wits with Reed Richards genius intellect for genius intellect.

 

[Retroman]

Tim Story interview from earlier this year...

January 30, 2006

Before I hopped on my ride to the airport back to NYC I asked him when does shooting start, Story replies, "August 1st up in Vancouver" And finally I asked Story that towards the end of the film it left wide open that Doom will be back, so will he? "Yes that I can tell you. He will be back in full DOOM, not like we had him in the first film."

Source: http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=236

 

[Exile]

I think cooler heads need to prevail here. Most of the people who saw the FF movie last year probably don't know the full extent of Sue's powers. They didn't see her make others invisible or levitate on invisible platforms. I believe that what Jessica meant is that we will be seeing her do things in this movie that we havent seen her do before and I am excited about that. As for the "love triangle", I think someone earlier pointed out that it may very well be that when the SS shows up, this harbinger of doom, it may very well be Sue Storm who is able to reach him emotionally and bring out the honorable man we all know lies in the heart of the Silver Surfer character. This doesnt mean that her feelings for Reed will deviate in the slightest. Just my opinion. =)

 

[Dragon]

Nope, bullets can hurt him. In fact, they can kill him. In FF#123, Reed is shot in the back by a trigger-happy soldier while trying to stop the Silver Surfer from leaving Earth to follow his former Galactus back into space. It's unclear where exactly Reed was hit (it appeared to be the back of the head) but the Surfer pronounces his injury as fatal. The Surfer then lands in a pastoral area and uses his power coismic to heal and restore Mr. Fantastic to life.

This would seem to indicate that Reed has to "see it coming" in order to command his body to absorb something as severe as a bullet.

That's really more of a "no-prize" moment than anything else. Because you'll note that in the very next issue they show us an X-ray of Reed's body that shows that his entire physiology is made of flexible tissue. That being the case, he wouldn't have to "will" himself to be rubbery. That's his natural state. So, he'd be bullet proof at all times. The thing is, that they needed a dramatic moment to build to the climax of the Surfer/Galactus plot, so Reed being "shot".

 

[Dragon]

For the record, Doom agrees with this assessment. In "Authoratative Action," he mentions how Sue is by far the most powerful of the four, but she is unwilling to use her power. Of course, when he possesses her body, he shows off some of the crazy crap he thinks she should do, which mostly involves impaling people with force-fields and such.

Right- but that isn't her being "more powerful". In FF #75 Galactus makes clones of the FF who are evil. The Reed clone generates spikes on his fist and so forth. Things Reed would never do. And again, we all know what Johnny could do if he chose to go the dark route.

I'm saying that there was a point where Marvel editorial, or perhaps mostly John Byrne since he was working every title that this happened on, where it was decided that female members of Marvel's prolific teams would suddnely be the most powerful on the team. In Avengers, it was Scarlet Witch. On the X-men it was Phoenix. On the FF they pushed Sue to the forefront. And Byrne did a storyline where each becameevil and displayed their full "potential".

My point is there's no real logical reason that Sue would be more powerful than the others.

 

[Exile]

Cool Beans =)

 

[Dragon]

One thing we have to keep in mind is that we're getting things filtered through Jessica's perspective. I have heard her say things regarding the first film that I didn't really agree with, so it's possible that some of the things she's saying here either aren't intended exactly as she's saying them or they are there, but not important to the broad story . . . just elements that she feels are important to her particular character. Her statements are also somewhat vague and may refer to different things.

Take this quote for example:

"There is a little tension between the Silver Surfer and Reed," Alba said of the script, which will finally bring the legendary Marvel character to the big screen. The cosmos-roaming Silver Surfer has gained an army of loyal fans with his conflicted, complicated story line. Of the Surfer, Alba said: "He's a little good and a little bad. So it's just a matter of, 'What does Sue Storm bring — the good or the bad — out of that boy?'"

Well . . . yeah, the surfer is a little good and a little bad. After all he is a harbinger of doom . . . but he does have good intentions in the end. I would imagine there would be some tension between Reed and the Surfer if, for example, Reed suspects the Surfer is a harbinger of doom, but he can't get that information out of him.

Seriously.. You know you're not going to get something so complex from this crew. It's like how last week some of you were surmising that the "triangle" would be Reed-Sue-Franklin. Really. These numbskulls see Jessica as being a sexy property, and they want to exploit that. Having her the object of the affections of the good and bad leads for these movies is the best they can do as far as creating tension.

These guys think lowest common denominator when writing these stories, which is why they believe they can pull off the Galactus saga in so short an amount of time. With the concept of Galactus comes so much potential for a powerful story. But all they see is a muscular silver guy getting the hots for Jessica.

 

[Exile]

Its because "God" is a woman silly. =)

On a more serious note, that is very interesting on the Avengers=Scarlet Witch, Xmen=Phoenix, and FF=Malice connection. Why is it that in order for these characters to reach their "full potential" they have to go bats#*t crazy?

 

[Dragon]

Its because "God" is a woman silly. =)

Then "she" has an f-ed up sense of humor.

On a more serious note, that is very interesting on the Avengers=Scarlet Witch, Xmen=Phoenix, and FF=Malice connection. Why is it that in order for these characters to reach their "full potential" they have to go bats#*t crazy?

That's why I refer to it as BS feminism. Because these women reach their full potential by essentially becoming evil b*tches- and- furthermore- it's usually because of a man exploiting their weaknesses driving them to that point.

 

[Kanon]

Galactus? I'm a little scared...

I can totally see him coming up with a way to steal the powers of the Silver Surfer or Galactus (like he did in Secret Wars) but that was in the comic where he had no powers of his own to begin with other then his suit technology. His movie incarnation boasts a considerably formidable array of cosmic powers (super strength, partial invulnerability, energy absorption and electrical projection) If he is in the movie I would like to see him matching wits with Reed Richards genius intellect for genius intellect.

I would use this movie to "fix" Doom: let him have the Surfer's powers, and when they are removed from him, he can be a powerless human, scarred.

 

[liesse00]

Its because "God" is a woman silly. =)

On a more serious note, that is very interesting on the Avengers=Scarlet Witch, Xmen=Phoenix, and FF=Malice connection. Why is it that in order for these characters to reach their "full potential" they have to go bats#*t crazy?

I don't know but it was pretty cool watching Jean Grey go Phoenix on all there asses, I'd like to see Alba go crazy b**ch on 'em.

 

[Obi-Ron]

On a more serious note, that is very interesting on the Avengers=Scarlet Witch, Xmen=Phoenix, and FF=Malice connection. Why is it that in order for these characters to reach their "full potential" they have to go bats#*t crazy?

"Bad girls" = horny teenage boys buying comics

 

[pyromaniac]

I have a bad feeling about this now. I get the impression that Alba has pulled a Halle Berry and demanded that she become the lead. As opposed to having it be, you know, about the team.

Here goes the misinterpretation again.

 

[Obi-Ron]

By the way, I'm on the "cautiously optimistic" side of the thread topic. Sue with Super Skrull powers is a little weird, but some interesting possibilities:

> A connection between the origin story of FF1 and Galactus - If Sue takes on the powers of the other 3, maybe the boys are de-powered, Doom as well. That may well make Doom look for power elsewhere (like maybe from that silver guy,hmmm), as well as leave the door open for slight physiological changes when the FF's powers return (cough*brow*cough)

Sue ends up powerful enough to get the Surfer's attention, and she plays the Alicia role of turning SS against Galactus. A departure, but it can work.

And suppose Reed & Sue get together while she is powered up? Might pave the way for a certain uber-powerful blond kid...

It's too early to get the pitchforks yet, so we'll just have to see what other info pops up...

 

[Dragon]

By the way, I'm on the "cautiously optimistic" side of the thread topic. Sue with Super Skrull powers is a little weird, but some interesting possibilities:

> A connection between the origin story of FF1 and Galactus - If Sue takes on the powers of the other 3, maybe the boys are de-powered, Doom as well. That may well make Doom look for power elsewhere (like maybe from that silver guy,hmmm), as well as leave the door open for slight physiological changes when the FF's powers return (cough*brow*cough)

Sue ends up powerful enough to get the Surfer's attention, and she plays the Alicia role of turning SS against Galactus. A departure, but it can work.

And suppose Reed & Sue get together while she is powered up? Might pave the way for a certain uber-powerful blond kid...

It's too early to get the pitchforks yet, so we'll just have to see what other info pops up...

So essentially this movie becomes the Fantastic One- with the worst actor of the cast being the focus? Sounds like a winner.

 

[Obi-Ron]

We'll see.

 

[webhead731]

Is she related to Dunst?

 

[Bishop2]

Here goes the misinterpretation again.

We'll see if it's misinterpretation when the movie comes out.