Alba's new comments....

[Advanced Dark]

Well you really turned my world around with that post. You da man

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Girl

This revision, also marked by Susan changing her nom de guerre to the Invisible Woman, has become the standard with Susan being recognized as the most powerful member of the team and has served stints as the team's leader on occasion.

Considering she can create a forcefield inside of anyone and expand it as big as she wants...just that power alone would wreck most anyone.

 

[Dragon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Girl
Considering she can create a forcefield inside of anyone and expand it as big as she wants...just that power alone would wreck most anyone.

See FF #106. Strange Tales #101. The Torch can control heat that he isn't generating, either intensifying it, or absorbing it. So- he can freeze someone by removing all of the heat from their body, or cause them to combust.

Just because TPTB have chosen to focus on Sue's powers and say she's the most powerful member doesn't mean she is, and that the other team members don't have hidden abilities. Building up one character to the detriment of the others is probably one reason the FF has remained at the bottom of the sales lists for a long time.

 

[Dragon]

Stop it Stop it Stop it Stop it please Stop. Jessica Alba is not pulling a "Halle Berry" and for the record Halle Berry never pulled a "Halle Berry". If it were a man who was fighting for a more substantive role and less fluff he would be applauded but for a woman to ask for the same treatment she is labelled and made into a punchline. The girl is clearly excited about her new movie and made a few comments to the press and already her words are being blown out of proportion. Perhaps we should exercise some patience and get some definitive news before dispensing with the labels?

So.. You figure making her more of a sex object by generating yet another love triangle is less fluff, more substance? Maybe the Surfer can blow away her clothing so she can do another lingerie shot.

And make no mistake. If Chris Evans made a statement about how he's the most powerful member of the team and went on about the love triangles he was going to be in inthe film, he'd be made out to be a jerk as well.

 

[zer00]

Story has already confirmed that Doom will return.

In the old script.

 

[Kelly]

So.. You figure making her more of a sex object by generating yet another love triangle is less fluff, more substance? Maybe the Surfer can blow away her clothing so she can do another lingerie shot.

And make no mistake. If Chris Evans made a statement about how he's the most powerful member of the team and went on about the love triangles he was going to be in inthe film, he'd be made out to be a jerk as well.

Exile wasn't talking about Jessica's comments at that moment, that was for what Berry said....

 

[Kelly]

In the old script.

Who knows what they will bring from that script if anything....maybe nothing....maybe alot....maybe Doom, maybe not....

 

[Hunter Rider]

I just got back from X3,there was no ROLO so who knows where this "love triangle" will end up

 

[Carp Man]

I just got back from X3,there was no ROLO so who knows where this "love triangle" will end up

Me, Jessica and Reed. Reed doesn't stand a chance LOL.

 

[Dragon]

Exile wasn't talking about Jessica's comments at that moment, that was for what Berry said....

But it still leads to the same result.

 

[Advanced Dark]

See FF #106. Strange Tales #101. The Torch can control heat that he isn't generating, either intensifying it, or absorbing it. So- he can freeze someone by removing all of the heat from their body, or cause them to combust.

Just because TPTB have chosen to focus on Sue's powers and say she's the most powerful member doesn't mean she is, and that the other team members don't have hidden abilities. Building up one character to the detriment of the others is probably one reason the FF has remained at the bottom of the sales lists for a long time.

^ How long can these hidden abilities stay hidden? The FF were created in the 60's thats about 45-50 years ago. LOL

 

[Dragon]

^ How long can these hidden abilities stay hidden? The FF were created in the 60's thats about 45-50 years ago. LOL

The powers I mentioned have been shown. As for the rest, it'll be when a writer gets off his ass and does something other than say "Sue is the most powerful of the team"...

 

[Kelly]

But it still leads to the same result.

Exile's post had nothing to do with the triangle and the reason for it.....you are trying to turn all posts back to your preception of whats going on and thats just closed minded....


I'm not happy about the love triangle either, but at least I'm willing to wait and see how it plays out....nor am I happy about the fact that this could turn into a 1 hero film AGAIN.....but as I said before...totally freaking out over these few quotes is just ignorant....

 

[The Apatow Crew]

LOL! drama queens.

 

[surfergirl]

I'm not happy about the love triangle either, but at least I'm willing to wait and see how it plays out....nor am I happy about the fact that this could turn into a 1 hero film AGAIN.....but as I said before...totally freaking out over these few quotes is just ignorant....

i know i was a little dismayed when i first read that article i think i'm calmed down now. its still early in pre-production so i'm not going to get too far ahead of myself.

 

[Dragon]

Exile's post had nothing to do with the triangle and the reason for it.....you are trying to turn all posts back to your preception of whats going on and thats just closed minded....


I'm not happy about the love triangle either, but at least I'm willing to wait and see how it plays out....nor am I happy about the fact that this could turn into a 1 hero film AGAIN.....but as I said before...totally freaking out over these few quotes is just ignorant....

So, which comments was Exile referring to? Jess may be a wonderful person, but her film work is not that deep. She knows what the studio is buying, and she's selling it.

As for being close-minded? No. I'm open-minded. But not empty-headed. When these people show me something to get excited about, I'll acknowledge it- like I did with the mention of David Self being hired as a writer. But Jess' comments are BS.

 

[Iron Maiden]

See FF #106. Strange Tales #101. The Torch can control heat that he isn't generating, either intensifying it, or absorbing it. So- he can freeze someone by removing all of the heat from their body, or cause them to combust.

Just because TPTB have chosen to focus on Sue's powers and say she's the most powerful member doesn't mean she is, and that the other team members don't have hidden abilities. Building up one character to the detriment of the others is probably one reason the FF has remained at the bottom of the sales lists for a long time.

Dragon, I don't think you've read the FF in a while. If anything, when Waid was writing the FF the focus was mostly on Reed, particularly for "Unthinkable" and "Authoritative Action" and practically for Waid's entire first year. He even stated in several interviews that his first order of business was to make Reed a more interesting character. Later, Johnny played a big role in "Rising Storm" and then we had a subplot with Ben coming into a fortune. Reed's guilt over Ben was the focus of "Hereafter". Sue really hasn't been front and center in quite a while.You must be having DeFalco flashbacks to when Sue led the team. Take a few shots and a beer to clear them out of your head

 

[Dragon]

Dragon, I don't think you've read the FF in a while. If anything, when Waid was writing the FF the focus was mostly on Reed, particularly for "Unthinkable" and "Authoritative Action" and practically for Waid's entire first year. He even stated in several interviews that his first order of business was to make Reed a more interesting character. Later, Johnny played a big role in "Rising Storm" and then we had a subplot with Ben coming into a fortune. Reed's guilt over Ben was the focus of "Hereafter". Sue really hasn't been front and center in quite a while.You must be having DeFalco flashbacks to when Sue lead the team. Take a few shots and a beer to clear them out of your head

No, I've read those arcs, and they were really good. But in this case I'm not just talking about Reed as a character (Although for me characterization is paramount). What I'm talking about is the silly notion of making Sue the most powerful member of the team, as opposed to making them all equally powerful, and doing stories exploring all of their abilities.

And my above example is to make it clear that the other members, in this case the Torch had long been established as having additional abilities. And further, in the example I mentioned, since we're talking about who could beat who- this is something generated internally, so it's something that Sue would have to protection from.

 

[Iron Maiden]

Then you have to go back and rag on Stan and Jack for ramping up Sue's powers to make her more than just hostage fodder. And that was a direct response to readers complaining about how useless she was on the FF. She was always fainting if she used her powers to much back in those days. So what if the pendulum swings the other way for a while? I see no harm in that. She's come a long way from being a sometimes petulant ex-model.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Is it not possible she becomes the most powerful when Malice is released as opposed to as regular Sue ?

 

[Dragon]

Then you have to go back and rag on Stan and Jack for ramping up Sue's powers to make her more than just hostage fodder. And that was a direct response to readers complaining about how useless she was on the FF. She was always fainting if she used her powers to much back in those days. So what if the pendulum swings the other way for a while? I see no harm in that. She's come a long way from being a sometimes petulant ex-model.

Wha? Why does it have to be either extreme? Stan and Jack wisely gave Sue an offensive power to place her up with the rest of the team. It was the likes of Byrne being "clever" that somehow tells us that projecting forcefields makes her more powerful than everyone else.

I'm certainly not saying she should be the WEAKEST member of the team- I'm saying- AGAIN- they should be EQUALLY powerful. I'm saying it does no benefit- for this TEAM- this FAMILY for ANY MEMBER to stand above the others. Especially since the only reason for putting Sue above the rest is for no reason other than for the writers et al to pat themselves on the back for BS progressiveness.

 

[Dragon]

Is it not possible she becomes the most powerful when Malice is released as opposed to as regular Sue ?

Well that goes back to my earlier point of how Marvel kept repeating themselves. On Avengers Scarlet Witch became evil and busted up the team (#185-187). They took it to another level shortly thereafter with Dark Phoenix and repeated themselves again with Malice. And I think its more than a coincidence that John Byrne was on each of those stories.

 

[LexCorp]

Alba is great!!

 

[The Apatow Crew]

okay that wasn't needed.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Well that goes back to my earlier point of how Marvel kept repeating themselves. On Avengers Scarlet Witch became evil and busted up the team (#185-187). They took it to another level shortly thereafter with Dark Phoenix and repeated themselves again with Malice. And I think its more than a coincidence that John Byrne was on each of those stories.

Yes but it could work in the film and serve as an explanation of how she becomes more powerful,and yes before you say it does seem very much like X3's Phoenix use in much they way they made Doom just like Osbourne in the 1st movie

 

[The Apatow Crew]

i think everyone's jumping the gun here. don't worry i'm sure all your fav characters will get about equal screen time. so simma down now.