All Things Superman: An Open Discussion (Spoilers) - Part 81

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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]459555[/split]
     
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  3. Pickle-El Registered

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    What are you going on about?

    This is the best possible news from this country for MOS's 1st day BO gross there....
     
  4. herolee10 No More Miracles

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    Well, here's a question for those that have seen it and actually liked the film....aside from the action and acting, were you guys invested (overall) in the story that was being told in the film?
     
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    If it gets anywhere near 10 million for its run, that's GREAT. IM3 did 15 total in the Philippines.
     
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    It'll be sad if years from now returns is held up as the better superman film.
     
  7. TheNextNolan22 Hurting Really REALLY BAD

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    I personally did. It was a solid origin story with a lot of heart and emotion.
     
  8. herolee10 No More Miracles

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    Honestly, if that ends up being the case, then one must wonder if anyone can really bring a superman on film that is received well by critics, fans, and the general audiences like Nolan's Batman films were.
     
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by souperman [​IMG]
    ...and you know how much money there is in the Philippines?

    (anyone know the reply/answer?)


    What are you going on about?

    This is the best possible news from this country for MOS's 1st day BO gross there....


    It is a line from The Odd Couple
    When Felix makes a film, the distributor says he can only show it in the Philippines and says:
    ...and you know how much money there is in the Philippines?
    The Producer replys: (anybody know?)
     
  10. Bruce Malone Registered

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    Superman may just not be a superhero for our time?

    In returns it doesn't work because he's too bland or goody-goody. MOS he's too dark and brooding to be superman.

    I think as a character filmmakers just don't know how to fit him into what audiences want?

    Batman however is very much a character that resonates with our times and attitudes.
     
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    Just got out of my screening. Will review once I get home. Initial thoughts - what a freaking movie. Totally awesome, the fights were brilliant, the acting is good all around and it didn't feel long at all despite its length. Loved it completely. More later
     
  12. Marvolo Registered

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    I just read a review on Joblo.com saying this

    I think some may be overplaying the dark and brooding nature of the film.
     
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    Brad Bird to the rescue.
     
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    Saying Superman isn't a character for our time infers there is a rudimentary problem with the concept of Superman. I don't feel that at all, even in this film. The conceptual elements are all there, waiting to be harvested. It's the execution that is severely lacking.

    Superman can be just as relatable nowadays as any other classic character if they film makers properly execute the concepts they've set out to address.
     
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    Haven't seen it, ever....need to, I've been on a nostalgic trip lately for older movies (mostly 80's action and Westerns).
     
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    :up:
     
  17. souperman Side-Dish

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    If they are treating MOS as a true franchise trilogy then maybe they planned to have the films work like a serial.

    In MOS, he is just becoming Superman and still unsure of how he fits in and how to handle this power.
    MOS2 he will be settling too being the HERO and IS Superman and works as Kent and has fun with being Superman.
    MOS3 Now mature Superman ,maybe questions if he is helping or hurting the human race.
     
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    Well different ideas inherent in a character are more relevant to different times. It depends on the social zeitgeist and events of the times your in. Certain superheros do work better in different times. Captain America being a prime example.
     
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    More positive reactions from regular folks??!??!??!

    Me thinks this will play as a crowd-pleaser. Sounds encouraging when you step out of the haze of smelly tomatoes and let the GA judge for themselves.
     
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    I frequent another forum called HFBoards that has a MoS thread, and one guy got his panties in a bunch about how Superman/Clark was dark to the point where the term "dark" and "brooding" was bastardized. He even purposefully rejects positive reviews that highlight how he wasn't dark at all.
     
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    From the TV show, even better than the movie.

    The reply is:

    ...I've got enough bamboo.

    Don't blame me...that's Norman Lear!
     
  22. DaJanksta Henry Cavill's chest hair

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    I told you fake. It's a good movie :)
     
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    True, but Superman fundamentally has very, very relatable elements that are timeless. Isolation, compassion in the face of adversity, the adoptee angle, duality of man. These are all present in MOS, I just felt they were lightly glossed over in lieu of action.

    Even the whole "American way" aspect was used as a throwaway towards the end of the film. And it served no purpose in relation to the rest of the film.
     
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    I don't think it's a rudimentary problem as much as it is a societal issue, I mean look at superheroes like Iron Man and Batman. Why are they consistently popular? Because they are flawed heroes, and that's perfect for our cynical society, as paradoxical as it sounds.

    Superman (as source material) is a reflection of all good that is possible within us, but our mainstream society refuses to accept it because it believes that no one is capable of being that good without ulterior motives. Moreover, you have the superhuman element, which only furthers the ability to relate to him (not that I agree, especially with isolation, outsiders, coming-of-age, and finding a place in an new world are key themes).
     
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    If Supes ain't being dorky, then he must be emo. :o
     
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