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This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]462059[/split]
So...what's going on?
Superman is being overshadowed by Batman in his new movie and by Iron Man in his own thread.
Superman is being overshadowed by Batman in his new movie and by Iron Man in his own thread.
That's not what's happening at all. Iron Man and the other Marvel movies came up specifically because of discussion that was launched by my posting thoughts on Man of Steel after having seen the film yesterday afternoon (during which I made mention of said movies). The resultant conversations between myself and others are entirely relevant to MoS because they specifically deal with the scope of the film and how it sets up a wider universe because of its tone and feel.
As for Superman being overshadowed by Batman in his new movie, that's not only very hyperbolic, it's also entirely false at this point since we know nothing whatsoever about the MoS sequel other than that it will somehow involve both Superman and Batman.
Well, I mean, me and some other guy got off on a tangent about wether or not Aldrich Killian counted as The Mandarin, so Iron Man did overshadow Superman for like a second.
Again, my bad.
IM3 wasn't as bad as some people made it out to be, but that experience did highlight what happens to a section of the audience that comes in with preconceptions about any one thing.
A brilliant twist(though I wouldn't want it to happen to joker) was very much completely unappreciated for what it was in light of the idea that mandarin is something else in the hearts and minds of this group of people.
The thing about that twist that I think made it entirely acceptable is that it removed the aspects of the character that are super racist, it even commented on them while it did so, while keeping the core of what the character is all about entirely intact. I'm not sure the changes in how Superman was presented in Man of Steel kept the core of the character intact quite as much. In in either event, I really don't think they made for very effective storytelling.
Okay. I didn't see it that way, but it's no big deal.
Anyway, back to discussing MoS and Superman. I didn't mention this in my comments on the film from earlier, but one of the things that I liked - particularly since I'm not that big of a fan of Superman but do know the characters and have some knowledge of their various dynamics as they've been brought to life in the past - was the way Goyer, Snyder, and Nolan had Lois willfully and deliberately seek out Superman's 'secret identity'; it gave the closing scene of him arriving at the Daily Planet a nice bit of nuance that you wouldn't have gotten any other way and made her line of 'Welcome to the Planet' both a professional greeting as well as a bit of an inside joke.
Having just praised that scene, though, I do have one tiny criticism about it, which is that Amy Adams - as phenomenal an actress as she is - played things a bit more subtly than I think she should have with the line and the scene when it comes to conveying that she knows who Clark really is.
That's really not much of a criticism, though, and is ultimately neither here nor there. It's just something I noticed as I was watching the movie.
In Bruce Tim's worlds finest Both were given equal play imo. It was superman city but it was batmans villain.
Batman had the better end of the stick in that film as opposed to Superman, which is why people are concerned (albeit, hyperbolic concerns). Though, I'll say that Public Enemies was a bit better.
Batman had the better end of the stick in that film as opposed to Superman, which is why people are concerned (albeit, hyperbolic concerns). Though, I'll say that Public Enemies was a bit better.
During the film, what is the name of the song that plays when Clark is floating in the water after saving the oil rig workers? Thanks
Superman saved people in this movie?