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B- is disappointing then you had hopes way too high for a reboot.
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Originally Posted by Poni_Boy![]()
Eh, I wouldn't say indestructible. They really powered Supes down in this one. My gripe is how Kal (farm boy) and Jor-El (scientist) BOTH could easily take down the biggest, baddest GENETICALLY ENGINEERED warrior of the Kryptinian military. Dude can't get out of a headlock?
My take on it was, even though someone is genetically engineered for a certain task, there is still enough variation for different levels of capacity. Obviously Jor-El is the foremost scientist but it never seemed he was one among equals. I think beyond the traits and the training there is still variation and that is why you don't have identical clones all in one guild. Whether the variation was creative force beyond even their advanced ability to prevent, or whether that was also part of the engineering I don't know. Nam-Ek is nine feet tall but he is the only Kryptonian shown that size. Maybe genetically all people of the hose of Ek are big but no one was even close of the all the other warriors in the warrior guild shown. He genetic coding may have assigned certain traits but I am guessing he was a Goliath figure, maybe a once in a few millennium occurrence. Otherwise why not halve all the warriors hulking giants?
Likewise for Jor-El i think he was probably genetically coded for scientific aptitude and trained accordingly but whatever variation is in the mix made Jor-El not just the foremost scientist but a bada$$ fighter but also compassionate, a deep thinker and believer in peacefully trying to change the course of Krypton. Exactly what you would expect Kal-El's Kryptonian father to be. Kal-El inherited those traits as children do.
Or maybe ehe had High Hopes that it'd be a well together written film and not several plot points strung together for the sake of action.
Or maybe not.
Sorry don't buy that. Jor-El could have trained in Kryptonian Krav Maga for the past ten years off screen but since there's no reference there's no context. they specifically say he's their genetically engineered lead scientist. It just came across as lazy that when he was apprehended by a bunch of generically engineered soldiers he easily took them all out. Splat. And then Zod. I would totally have bought it if he had given those soldiers the slip and maybe if he had some weapon that he had created to hold off Zod (he was a scientist after all) but he just knocked everyone out. Their genetic disposition doesn't seem to mean spit.
Why would he have armor and weaponry in his home if he isn't capable or trained? Zod wasn't trying to kill him when he entered. He was trying to apprehend him. Whereas Jor-El was fighting for his son's survival. If a Navy Seal were trying to apprehend me and I was a genetically engineered genius protecting my son with armor on I'd put up a helluva fight too. And all he did was stall him until Lara got the spaceship off. There are stupid arguments and then there's this type of argument.Sorry don't buy that. Jor-El could have trained in Kryptonian Krav Maga for the past ten years off screen but since there's no reference there's no context. they specifically say he's their genetically engineered lead scientist. It just came across as lazy that when he was apprehended by a bunch of generically engineered soldiers he easily took them all out. Splat. And then Zod. I would totally have bought it if he had given those soldiers the slip and maybe if he had some weapon that he had created to hold off Zod (he was a scientist after all) but he just knocked everyone out. Their genetic disposition doesn't seem to mean spit.
It's an enjoyable movie, I never said it was bad, it was just disappointing.I'm going to use your rating as an example of conflicting messages. You said "the movie was disappointing" and then gave it a B-. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. I'm not criticizing. I just can't follow your logic.
My expectations weren't through the roof when I was heading into the cinema.B- is disappointing then you had hopes way too high for a reboot.
Why would he have armor and weaponry in his home if he isn't capable or trained? Zod wasn't trying to kill him when he entered. He was trying to apprehend him. Whereas Jor-El was fighting for his son's survival. If a Navy Seal were trying to apprehend me and I was a genetically engineered genius protecting my son with armor on I'd put up a helluva fight too. And all he did was stall him until Lara got the spaceship off. There are stupid arguments and then there's this type of argument.
Like I said before, I could maybe buy the Zod fight but before that he took out four or five of Zod's soldiers in a row. Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam. No muss no fuss. It felt way too convenient. Just like Lois using a Kryptonian weapon dead eye on three soldiers because Holo-El told her where to point.
Stuff like this might be pedantic to you but when it happens over and over and over I start wondering if I missed something or if it's just sloppy writing.
Why would he have armor and weaponry in his home if he isn't capable or trained? Zod wasn't trying to kill him when he entered. He was trying to apprehend him. Whereas Jor-El was fighting for his son's survival. If a Navy Seal were trying to apprehend me and I was a genetically engineered genius protecting my son with armor on I'd put up a helluva fight too. And all he did was stall him until Lara got the spaceship off. There are stupid arguments and then there's this type of argument.
I doubt they had orders to take him out. This is such a non-issue.Like I said before, I could maybe buy the Zod fight but before that he took out four or five of Zod's soldiers in a row. Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam. No muss no fuss. It felt way too convenient. Just like Lois using a Kryptonian weapon dead eye on three soldiers because Holo-El told her where to point.
Stuff like this might be pedantic to you but when it happens over and over and over I start wondering if I missed something or if it's just sloppy writing.
It's a lack of writing. an excuse to get characters from point A to point B.
Their genetic disposition doesn't seem to mean spit.
Yeah I guess it is. Was kinda wondering if I'd missed something like with the English language thing
Why would he have armor and weaponry in his home if he isn't capable or trained? Zod wasn't trying to kill him when he entered. He was trying to apprehend him. Whereas Jor-El was fighting for his son's survival. If a Navy Seal were trying to apprehend me and I was a genetically engineered genius protecting my son with armor on I'd put up a helluva fight too. And all he did was stall him until Lara got the spaceship off. There are stupid arguments and then there's this type of argument.
That is one thing that bugged me. I wish they had done a bit where it is spoken Krytonese and subtitled and transferred to English during say, the council scene. That was lazy execution. No explanation that they speak no other language on their planet.
Echoing the sentiment of the NETizens, it's very interesting to hear that a representative of Rotten Tomatoes is also in dismay after Man Of Steel only receives a rating of 58%.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2479...box-office-preview/?playlist_id=2418215023001
I smell a big amount of money of some company to open the road to it's premiere next week... but the movie is a masterpiece and the critics are making nosense