All Things Wonder Woman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 21
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with the stable of reviewers that have given it positives, i'd say its path to fresh is clear. it's only a matter of how fresh and how much at the b.o. now
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Ever since Batman V. Superman, The DC Extended Universe has been a pain in my ass. In 2016, the studio produced two cinematic pieces of garbage that both ended up on my Worst of List. Batman V. Superman and Suicide Squad. Both films made both exhausted and furious. In all honesty, it made dread watching the upcoming films in their lineup especially Wonder Woman. After watching this, let me be the first to tell you that this movie is the testament of the term, “It takes a woman to do a man’s job.”
Here's my review of Wonder Woman
https://rendyreviews.com/movies//wonder-woman-review
Here's my review of Wonder Woman
https://rendyreviews.com/movies//wonder-woman-review
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Well we definitely will see reviews in further spots...I mean we would if the movie was marketed
I wont lie I dont know half the people you guys are posting reviews from...for all I know it is you
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Right then.
Lets just think about this for a cool second.
After years of bad female driven superhero films and poorly reviewed DC films.
The one to finally break that curse is also the most famous female superhero ever, Wonder Woman.
This is history right here folks.
Lets just think about this for a cool second.
After years of bad female driven superhero films and poorly reviewed DC films.
The one to finally break that curse is also the most famous female superhero ever, Wonder Woman.
This is history right here folks.
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Haha you saved it before Guadian ruined it, must be a Starlord
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Guess we won't hear anything from people like darthskywalker now.
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My thoughts as we get to the finish line.
I can't believe the wait will soon be over.
I remember the first WW comic I bought for myself. I had grown up around comics, my uncles and my brother read them and so we had boxes of them in the house. Of course I too had grown up with the classic era adaptations, the Donner Superman film, the West Batman, Superfriends, the Marvel toons made from the comics, the first animated Spidey show. My friend in parochial school had a collection and I loved going over to his place to read from his, to my kid level perception, "huge" collection he had in two boxes under his bed. I started collecting comics for myself by going down to a record store that had a rack of them. Marvel, DC and eventually the place started stocking some of the indie works like Dark Horse. They didn't have Wonder Woman though. Not long after my family started going to Pennsylvania for summertime as my uncle had a place in Wayne county. We'd spend vacation days there and it was not uncommon for me to get dragged as a kid to the various flea markets or road side shopping areas by my mom, dad or grandmother.
At one I came across a booth selling comics, new and old. I had watched Wonder Woman as a TV show in syndication and had read some older comics with her. I liked her well enough, she seemed fine in JLA stories and the like but didn't really know all about her or her back story. I would guess the biggest dive into that was watching one or two episodes of the SF show where they showed some of her origin. At this booth there was a wide selection, way wider than that record store, and there at the front was this issue of WW:
I had started to recognize the names of certain "creators" and knew that Perez had been the artist for stuff I had liked prior, old Avengers and the Crisis On Infinite Earths series. The cover is classic Perez as is the interiors. But the story was not at all what I expected, not just as it was the Post Crisis WW but also the little details and character stuff. Little things like it taking place in Boston, the way WW had a PR firm behind her, even Perez showing WW wearing that cape. And then there was the characterization of Diana as someone that was both skilled and accomplished but also still learning, still trying to figure the world out. Add in Perez's art and I was hooked. I became a regular reader and loved the way this WW expanded on everything I was exposed to about the character from before. I especially liked that here was one of the great DC heroes that started it all and she had her own area or expertise as it were. Superman was the ultimate sci fi Hercules/Samson/messiah. Batman is the human swashbuckling crusader for justice. And Wonder Woman? She is the daughter of myth and magic. The original warrior princess of pop culture. Just about every single super hero to come after those three mixes and matches those aspects in some way.
The character, like all comic heroes at a certain level of popularity, has had it's ups and downs. I learned this all getting a job at a comic book shop which allowed me the luxury of reading back issues and getting a full picture of the way the character had changed and adapted over the years. Much like those who are fans of Aquaman chafe at the general public view of the character, so too did I wince when other comic book fans wrote WW off as just a female character in a bikini with a rope. "Wonder Woman is no joke" was always my go to phrase in describing this awesome creation. The crown princess of the Amazons who is their ambassador of peace but also their greatest mistress of war. A woman that is both a teacher and guide but also a student of the world, always listening and learning. Always with an open heart and compassionate but also the angel with a flaming sword doing the work of justice. Being raised Catholic this all struck a chord to say the least.
There's always been a lot of paradox to the character and that's got to be a part of the appeal as it inherently makes things interesting. She is a feminist icon but let's not pretend that sex appeal hasn't contributed to her popularity (Her creator certainly knew what he was doing in using sexual appeal to further his own, uh, unique perspectives). She's wise, but also has an innocence about her. There have been silly aspects to the character and yet she has also had stories with great depth. As a fictional heroine she's utterly and totally a flight of fancy, yet she's been an important icon of the struggles for equality that the Post WWII generation of women in America went through. I am a man so I can't claim to speak in any definitive terms about what the character means to a woman or say members of the Homosexual community (which she understandably has a big following among). That said to me Wonder Woman is a symbol that expresses the idea of a woman's competence, wisdom and strength of character being every equal to a man's. She is about being able to control your own destiny but not letting that turn oneself hard and cynical to others. I have lifted this saying from the film ELIZABETH, with Cate Blanchett but I think it applies to Diana. Wonder Woman represents the idea that for each woman she should have but one mistress, herself, and no master.
And now, here we are days away from seeing a film with incredibly production values take the myth of Wonder Woman and her world to greater heights than ever before. Fitting that the first female led film of this new age of super hero films should be one about the Amazon Princess. I cannot wait to be in that theater and see this, dare I type, wonderful heroine be realized in live action on the big screen for the first time in an adventure all her own. All the world truly has been waiting for you. I hope I am not disappointed.
I remember the first WW comic I bought for myself. I had grown up around comics, my uncles and my brother read them and so we had boxes of them in the house. Of course I too had grown up with the classic era adaptations, the Donner Superman film, the West Batman, Superfriends, the Marvel toons made from the comics, the first animated Spidey show. My friend in parochial school had a collection and I loved going over to his place to read from his, to my kid level perception, "huge" collection he had in two boxes under his bed. I started collecting comics for myself by going down to a record store that had a rack of them. Marvel, DC and eventually the place started stocking some of the indie works like Dark Horse. They didn't have Wonder Woman though. Not long after my family started going to Pennsylvania for summertime as my uncle had a place in Wayne county. We'd spend vacation days there and it was not uncommon for me to get dragged as a kid to the various flea markets or road side shopping areas by my mom, dad or grandmother.
At one I came across a booth selling comics, new and old. I had watched Wonder Woman as a TV show in syndication and had read some older comics with her. I liked her well enough, she seemed fine in JLA stories and the like but didn't really know all about her or her back story. I would guess the biggest dive into that was watching one or two episodes of the SF show where they showed some of her origin. At this booth there was a wide selection, way wider than that record store, and there at the front was this issue of WW:
I had started to recognize the names of certain "creators" and knew that Perez had been the artist for stuff I had liked prior, old Avengers and the Crisis On Infinite Earths series. The cover is classic Perez as is the interiors. But the story was not at all what I expected, not just as it was the Post Crisis WW but also the little details and character stuff. Little things like it taking place in Boston, the way WW had a PR firm behind her, even Perez showing WW wearing that cape. And then there was the characterization of Diana as someone that was both skilled and accomplished but also still learning, still trying to figure the world out. Add in Perez's art and I was hooked. I became a regular reader and loved the way this WW expanded on everything I was exposed to about the character from before. I especially liked that here was one of the great DC heroes that started it all and she had her own area or expertise as it were. Superman was the ultimate sci fi Hercules/Samson/messiah. Batman is the human swashbuckling crusader for justice. And Wonder Woman? She is the daughter of myth and magic. The original warrior princess of pop culture. Just about every single super hero to come after those three mixes and matches those aspects in some way.
The character, like all comic heroes at a certain level of popularity, has had it's ups and downs. I learned this all getting a job at a comic book shop which allowed me the luxury of reading back issues and getting a full picture of the way the character had changed and adapted over the years. Much like those who are fans of Aquaman chafe at the general public view of the character, so too did I wince when other comic book fans wrote WW off as just a female character in a bikini with a rope. "Wonder Woman is no joke" was always my go to phrase in describing this awesome creation. The crown princess of the Amazons who is their ambassador of peace but also their greatest mistress of war. A woman that is both a teacher and guide but also a student of the world, always listening and learning. Always with an open heart and compassionate but also the angel with a flaming sword doing the work of justice. Being raised Catholic this all struck a chord to say the least.
There's always been a lot of paradox to the character and that's got to be a part of the appeal as it inherently makes things interesting. She is a feminist icon but let's not pretend that sex appeal hasn't contributed to her popularity (Her creator certainly knew what he was doing in using sexual appeal to further his own, uh, unique perspectives). She's wise, but also has an innocence about her. There have been silly aspects to the character and yet she has also had stories with great depth. As a fictional heroine she's utterly and totally a flight of fancy, yet she's been an important icon of the struggles for equality that the Post WWII generation of women in America went through. I am a man so I can't claim to speak in any definitive terms about what the character means to a woman or say members of the Homosexual community (which she understandably has a big following among). That said to me Wonder Woman is a symbol that expresses the idea of a woman's competence, wisdom and strength of character being every equal to a man's. She is about being able to control your own destiny but not letting that turn oneself hard and cynical to others. I have lifted this saying from the film ELIZABETH, with Cate Blanchett but I think it applies to Diana. Wonder Woman represents the idea that for each woman she should have but one mistress, herself, and no master.
And now, here we are days away from seeing a film with incredibly production values take the myth of Wonder Woman and her world to greater heights than ever before. Fitting that the first female led film of this new age of super hero films should be one about the Amazon Princess. I cannot wait to be in that theater and see this, dare I type, wonderful heroine be realized in live action on the big screen for the first time in an adventure all her own. All the world truly has been waiting for you. I hope I am not disappointed.
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I just saw a picture online saying that Wonder Woman is not an Amazonian, indigenous people of the Amazon are, and its disrespectful.
And honestly... I mean they have a point, why aren't the amazonians called amazons that's just confusing....(sorry def not complaining these reviews are great lol)
And honestly... I mean they have a point, why aren't the amazonians called amazons that's just confusing....(sorry def not complaining these reviews are great lol)
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Go ask the Greeks
(plus I am guessing the Amazon River was named long after that anyways so they can suck it)
(plus I am guessing the Amazon River was named long after that anyways so they can suck it)
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DC and WB right now
This is awesome!
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