All Things Wonder Woman: An Open Discussion

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm not saying I want Captain Kirk to be Steve Trevor, but his Kirk did have a lot of range and was much more vulnerable/emotive than Fillion's Trevor. It all depends on the writing, and he has already played different characters. He's an actor. There's no reason to automatically assume his Trevor would be a Kirk clone, although some similarities are unavoidable.

Not sure why you think he doesn't have star power. Unstoppable was successful. Nearly all his other movies were also successful, but they were smaller and not expected to be blockbusters. It's not really an issue especially since Trevor isn't the main character, and WB has no problem giving movies/roles to FAR less proven actors.

He's an actor... One that hasn't really shown a lot of range though in his roles, nor much screen presence. Of course UNSTOPPABLE was a hit... Again, who was his co-star? Denzel, who is still a draw. And this speaks to the problem of casting him in a WW film. Gal is likely to have much more established stars that can bring some gravitas to their roles and bring an audience to the theater surrounding her in the WW film. Gal, and I am not one that has ever been negative about her casting, is a relative unknown to the audience at large. She will be surrounded by actors that can bring in ticket buyers. I don't think on any level that Pine has shown he can do that when in a film that doesn't have a much more famous draw opposite him on screen or in a well known and beloved franchise that would have been made it's money on name recognition alone.

And in the time alotted to a DTV Nate's Trevor may not be full of depth but... Yeah, in broad strokes Pine's Kirk and Nate's Trevor have WAY more similarities than they do distinctions. Of course Kirk has more layers as written than the Trevor we got in a 70 minute DTV animated film. He's the main, or at least, Co-Lead of the film. But again... in broad strokes Kirk is a hotshot military man that loves the ladies, has confidence bordering on arrogance, but in the end is strong man of action and morals. Steve Trevor in the DTV is a hotshot military man that loves the ladies, has confidence bordering on arrogance, but in the end is a strong man of actions and morals. What exactly is any more "dude/bro" about the DTV Trevor as compared to Kirk in the first Trek film Pine did? I just don't see Pine playing a live action Trevor especially different from his Jim Kirk. YMMV of course.

 

[Mad Love]

Has any critic or the GA really complained about Chris Pine's acting range, lol? Steve Trevor is well in Pine's wheelhouse. And, I'm pretty sure most of the scrutiny will be on Gadot. It seems like you're overly nitpicking again. And like you said, Gal and Steve won't be the only ones in the movie. She'll probably be surrounded by other big actors aside from Chris Pine.

Fillion's Trevor had plenty of dialogue and characterization that was different from Kirk. Kirk was handsome and charming. He had arrogance but it was a front. Like I said, Kirk had an emotional and vulnerable side which contrasted Spock. If you remember the WW movie, Trevor and Diana argued a lot. He wasn't portrayed as handsome, charming, or humble like in Brave and the Bold. He was rugged and crass/'bro' like New 52 Hal Jordan.

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[Jonwo]

I think Steve Trevor could be played by someone who is unknown or semi known rather than a name, My choice would be Scott Eastwood if they went that route but if they wanted someone who is known, I would be fine with Chris Pine.

 

[Mad Love]

Scott Eastwood is a good choice too. I like what I've seen from him.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Dear Zod... Scott Eastwood looks SO much like his dad, it's crazy.

 

[queendarkness12]

I got a Wonder Woman social group up and running, if you'd like to know.

 

[Loki882]

If that rumor of Pine playing Hal Jordan turns out to be true (please), then he's out of the running. And as for his appeal, well he was one of the most praised parts of Into the Woods. Seriously, the Agony duet was hilarious.

 

[queendarkness12]

What about Chace Crawford, he's alright with me.

 

[Mad Love]

But according to KRYPTON INC., Pine doesn't have range, screen presence, and BO draw. If he's not good enough for Steve Trevor, how could they give him Hal Jordan which is a bigger role?

I wouldn't mind if Pine got Hal. There are other choices that could work for Trevor.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

But according to KRYPTON INC., Pine doesn't have range, screen presence, and BO draw. If he's not good enough for Steve Trevor, how could they give him Hal Jordan which is a bigger role?

I wouldn't mind if Pine got Hal. There are other choices that could work for Trevor.

Oh ML... What is everyone saying about Pine as GL? Oh, that's right, that he could play Hal because his Kirk is just like Hal Jordan. As for his BO draw... Who can forget the massive cultural phenomenon of THIS MEANS WAR? It was the new THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY, after all... Oh wait. Well then there is his incredibly popular Jack Ryan re-boot that everyone went to see that spawned a new franchise... Oh, yeah, that didn't happen.. Pine is a likable enough presence, and he would be ok as Hal... But let's not pretend that he A. Is some kind of box office draw or that B. People want him as Hal because he is a master thespian. They want him as Hal to do the same thing as he does with Kirk. So... Yup. He's shown little in the way of getting butts in seats or having some kind of fan following and he's shown us very little in the way of range.

Also, our discussion before was about how you thought that Trevor in the WW was too "dude/bro" and that you hoped that Trevor in the film would be like Pine's Kirk or some such and all I pointed out was that there's really not much of a difference in their characterization, so it's six of one half a dozen of another. If you want a Bette Noir ML, choose someone else sir/madam.

 

[Mad Love]

Also, our discussion before was about how you thought that Trevor in the WW was too "dude/bro" and that you hoped that Trevor in the film would be like Pine's Kirk or some such and all I pointed out was that there's really not much of a difference in their characterization, so it's six of one half a dozen of another. If you want a Bette Noir ML, choose someone else sir/madam.

Wrong, people can read what you actually wrote. That's the beauty of it. No walls of text can refute what's now archived. I never said Trevor should be like Pine's Kirk. That's what you were insisting. And, I proved Kirk was different from Fillion's Trevor.

If Pine is good enough for Hal Jordan, he could play Steve Trevor. If he can play Kirk, he can play a kinder, humbler version which is what Trevor should be unlike the version in the animated WW movie.

 

[Bwahaha!]

I have to admit, when I saw Pine as Kirk, I immediately thought he could play Trevor. I have no idea about his box office drawing power but I do agree WW needs big names since Gadot is an unknown quantity. I'll probably get laughed off the boards, but one of my top picks for Trevor is Channing Tatum.

 

[Mad Love]

I have to admit, when I saw Pine as Kirk, I immediately thought he could play Trevor. I have no idea about his box office drawing power but I do agree WW needs big names since Gadot is an unknown quantity. I'll probably get laughed off the boards, but one of my top picks for Trevor is Channing Tatum.

Channing Tatum wouldn't be bad. He has shown better acting chops the past years. However, he's already attached to Fox as Gambit.

 

[Bullseye1]

Channing Tatum has zero acting chops and would actually put me off seeing the movie altogether.

 

[Micromind]

Channing Tatum is perfect for Guy Gardner !

Jake Gyllenhaal for Steve Trevor.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Channing Tatum is Gambit.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

If Josh Holloway had some more star power he'd be a good choice. I would love to see him, but I do think they would want to surround Gal with well known talent and I'm not sure Josh has that right now. He's surprisingly to me NOT made a big splash in his post LOST time.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Channing Tatum has zero acting chops and would actually put me off seeing the movie altogether.

I will pass this message to the following directors who cast him:

Quentin Tarantino
Coen Brothers
Bennett Miller
Steven Soderbergh

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

At this point continuing to act like Tatum is the male Megan Fox is just silly. Love him or hate him he is respected in the industry.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Channing Tatum has zero acting chops and would actually put me off seeing the movie altogether.

Getting cast in roles from director's like Tarantino and Soderbergh....Yeah, this "argument" is invalid in 2015.

 

[Snow Queen]

I wonder if Star Wars Episode VIII's new release date will make WB move this around.

 

[Bullseye1]

Getting cast in roles from director's like Tarantino and Soderbergh....Yeah, this "argument" is invalid in 2015.

So you rate him as an actor? Soderbergh has also cast Sasha Grey. Another brilliant actress.

 

[Black Narcissus]

So you rate him as an actor? Soderbergh has also cast Sasha Grey. Another brilliant actress.

Soderbergh has always been experimental when it comes to a lot of things. Are you also going to discredit the other directors I mentioned? Lawd. Soderbergh has also won an Oscar for directing.

 

[queendarkness12]

I wonder if Star Wars Episode VIII's new release date will make WB move this around.

An early release date will be possible, depending on Gadot's audience reception in BvS.

 

[Bullseye1]

Soderbergh has always been experimental when it comes to a lot of things. Are you also going to discredit the other directors I mentioned? Lawd. Soderbergh has also won an Oscar for directing.

Glad you rate him, I dont. Regardless of how many directors cast him. I don't want him any where near the WW movie.