Am I the only one who thought the CGI was shoddy?

[dodus]

Was that comment really necessary?

Did it really bother you that much?

 

[mre]

The first pic I posted looks like a video game Spidey. Is it a cool shot? Yeah. Is it great CGI? Hell no. Needs work.

I wish Spidey looked that good in a video game. I have never seen a video game with graphics that good. Can you show me what game can compare with that image you showed me? I will be impressed.

 

[Spade]

Satisfactory enough for the graphics comparison? Mind you, there aren't even the best.

 

[webhead731]

I wish Spidey looked that good in a video game. I have never seen a video game with graphics that good. Can you show me what game can compare with that image you showed me? I will be impressed.

These Spider-Man 3 game screenshots even look more detailed and worked out than that shot.^
Or atleast about as good.
(and it wasn't "Next Gen at its best" kinds of graphics!)

 

[webhead731]

 

[Spider-Who?]

QUOTE=X-Maniac;11836310]It depends how much suspension of disbelief you have, how much your 'inner child' can submit to the story and let it take you on a fantasy journey.

No, it depends on how BELEIVEBLE the CGI is. If you are going to use CGI to replace a person in a LIVE ACTION MOVIE, that CGI NEEDS TO BE AS GOOD AS YOU CAN GET, otherwise, that shot has failed. And as in certian parts of SM1-3, we have seen how REALISTIC the CGI CAN BE. And after 3 movies, and one of the biggest budgets of all time, you would think ALL of the CGI in this movie would be spot on, since we KNOW THEY CAN DO IT.

I didn't see any dodgy CGI in SM3, nor in SR or X3 or King Kong for that matter. I noticed something in SR when watching at home but that's about it.

With these fantasy movies, they are trying hard to push the boundaries to make the impossible possible and the fantastic into reality. They often write new software programs to make things possible.

Yes, I know. This is common knowledge AND common practice. Almost every big budget film that relies heavily on CGI invents "new programs". Whats your point?

Chiba's expert view was not the view of an ordinary person - the post admits he studies CGI artwork analytically. His post was a pompous dissection of things that most people wouldn't see.

I dont see how his post was pompus at all. This is a thread MEANT to discuss whether or not viewers thought the CGI was shoddy, and Chiba presented a very well put together analysis of the CGI in the film, which again, IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD. It seems to me that you are taking offense to it simply because you dont understand it.


In order to enjoy these movies, please try to first accept the basic premise of the movie. A Spider-Man film is going to have computer-generated images of a man swinging from skyscrapers,

Dont ****ing patronize me. No ****ing **** Spider-Man is mostly going to be CGI.

just as Kong will have a giant ape and Hulk a giant green man.

Yes, and the CGI in Kong was AMAZING. Theres no reason why Spider-Man3 couldnt of have effects that good throughout the entire duration of the movie.

The brain knows these things are fake because in real life they aren't possible, so that's a barrier many people cannot overcome.

No, it isnt a barrier that people cant overcome. That barrier lies in the way of special effects artists. It is THEIR job to be good enough that you can't tell what is CGI and what isnt. That responsibility does NOT belong to the viewer, if it did, we'd probably never even have heard of CGI because moviemakers would sound alot like you "its your problem if you can notice our subpar effects".


I repeat - Chiba wasn't watching the movie, he was watching and analysing the CGI. The things he noticed would not be noticeable on a normal viewing by a normal person - the action scenes moved so fast that it would be impossible to make his observations unless watching the movie in slow motion or frame by frame.[/QUOTE]

...and you completely ignored the fact that my mother (who is a kindergaden teacher) could tell (from a single viewing) that some of the cgi was bad. She must have some degree in animation I dont know about and went to a theater that showed each frame one by one, then I guess.

And there were plenty of slower shots that were obviously CG. SPidey and Venom falling for one (Pete's face was obviously fake). The first time we see Spidey in the black suit (WHY did that have to be CGI in the first place, I dont know, he's just sitting there) is another.

I have come to the conclusion that you have no freaking clue as to what you are talking about. Do you even know where you're sitting right now?

 

[phillip phonix]

i have to admit the cgi in this movie was amazing, i mean look at when spidey saves gwen that was mind blowing, it might just be me! also venom his effects were amazing and very realistic, even to aqn extent i found sandman belivable but the peace where spidey and mj a swinging in the final act where he saves her my friend said that was cgi and if so wow they did an incredable job in geting it all to look so realistic

well that just me so thanks!

 

[webhead731]

Venom was well done.

 

[Mr Jide]

I would have been amped if Galactus looked like this in the new movie but no......he's a f***ing puff cloud

 

[Eggyman]

I would have been amped if Galactus looked like this in the new movie but no......he's a f***ing puff cloud

Teh puffy So has it been confirmed he is a cloud then? I only skimmed the thread earlier and heard something about FOX getting some guy fired about giving the film a 2.5 out of 5.

 

[buggs0268]

What the hell, buggs?

What those people think about SR doesn't matter. It is you who has this inexplicable need to bash SR constantly, not them who feels they have to bash SM3 to make themselves feel better.

You go on all the time about you being targeted for your opinions in the SR boards, but you are doing the exact same thing here. Hypocrite.

Hah. I know their gig. This was on purpose. And it doesn't make me a hypocrite. I am calling them on it.

 

[buggs0268]

Yeah the shot with Eddie getting pulled out of the symbiote reminded me of the graphics from Sewer Shark.

Heh heh. I like you.

 

[Qwerty©]

Hah. I know their gig. This was on purpose. And it doesn't make me a hypocrite. I am calling them on it.

You actually believe your own little delusions

 

[dodus]

i have to admit the cgi in this movie was amazing, i mean look at when spidey saves gwen that was mind blowing, it might just be me! also venom his effects were amazing and very realistic, even to aqn extent i found sandman belivable but the peace where spidey and mj a swinging in the final act where he saves her my friend said that was cgi and if so wow they did an incredable job in geting it all to look so realistic

well that just me so thanks!

smh12, is that you?

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

smh12, is that you?

nope, it isn't.

Originally Posted by phillip phonix
i have to admit the cgi in this movie was amazing, i mean look at when spidey saves gwen that was mind blowing, it might just be me! also venom his effects were amazing and very realistic, even to aqn extent i found sandman belivable but the peace where spidey and mj a swinging in the final act where he saves her my friend said that was cgi and if so wow they did an incredable job in geting it all to look so realistic

well that just me so thanks!

I really gre on that. Every CGI shot in this film blew me away. This is the greatest CGI has ever been and this film really proves that. The Peter vs. Harry fight looked very realistic and as I said befor so did the Crane scene. Venom was truly brought to life with lots of things including the CGI. so without the CGI then Venom wouldn't have been really brought to life.

 

[buggs0268]

You actually believe your own little delusions

Dude, they were busted in this forum bagging on the film in the SR forum. It is in a thread. And what are the odds of the two of them posting one right after the other before anyone in this forum, which is pretty lively at the moment, would post before Bosef did. But two major spiderman 3 detractors/ SR supporters post back to back before anyone here could. And, like I said, I talked to a few ex-in singer we trust guys who said this was done before. So, I am putting two and two together. And it isn't much of a stretch.

 

[Spider-Who?]

i have to admit the cgi in this movie was amazing, i mean look at when spidey saves gwen that was mind blowing, it might just be me! also venom his effects were amazing and very realistic, even to aqn extent i found sandman belivable but the peace where spidey and mj a swinging in the final act where he saves her my friend said that was cgi and if so wow they did an incredable job in geting it all to look so realistic

well that just me so thanks!

Yes, there were many shots that were well done as well. I think that simply the birth of Sandman will get Sony the Oscar. I wish all of the cgi elements could have been that well executed.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

I don't know about you guys, but CGI, regardless of quality, never bothered me if I liked the movie. I'm old enough to remember an age when there was nothing called CGI as an FX tool.

 

[Qwerty©]

Dude, they were busted in this forum bagging on the film in the SR forum. It is in a thread. And what are the odds of the two of them posting one right after the other before anyone in this forum, which is pretty lively at the moment, would post before Bosef did. But two major spiderman 3 detractors/ SR supporters post back to back before anyone here could. And, like I said, I talked to a few ex-in singer we trust guys who said this was done before. So, I am putting two and two together. And it isn't much of a stretch.

They can't help it if they liked SR and hated Spider-Man 3. They are allowed to criticise, you know. I would've thought you of all people would understand this.

 

[Akimych]

I like the scene when it appears Columbia pictures statue... yes... supercgi..

 

[Bartman56]

I thought it was okay, they really messed up the symbiote's movements though. It's supposed to be a puddle slithering across the ground, WTF is up with the flipping around thing!? But then again they completely screwed up Venom anyways so...

 

[Bartman56]

I would have been amped if Galactus looked like this in the new movie but no......he's a f***ing puff cloud

Wouldn't we all


But what do you expect? The first one sucked, so thus the second one shall suck.

 

[buggs0268]

They can't help it if they liked SR and hated Spider-Man 3. They are allowed to criticise, you know. I would've thought you of all people would understand this.

Everyone has a right to criticise. Eveyone has a right to their opinion. But to do what appears to be a co-ordinated attacking thread in another superhero's movie thread just because of sour grapes is immature. And I think everyone here on this board will agree. They should be happy because this keeps the superhero movies looking very lucrative for studios to make. But instead, because another hero movie is beating the pants off of their prefferred hero in the box office, making their hero's movie look worse because of it, they have to deride it. And don't go into anohter hero's section here to do it.

I am a die hard Superman fan, and a mild Spiderman fan. But I am very happy for the movie, and for the spiderman fans that it is doing so well. I am also glad it shows that one studio is doing it very right. It also shows that the format that Donner did for Superman works universally as it is being followed by Raimi. Raimi has stated that he used Donner's STM as a template to follow for Spiderman. So I am glad that one heroes movies has helped another be successful.

 

[mre]

I'm sorry, but the graphics from those games don't come close to that image from Spidey 3 Movie.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

I thought it was okay, they really messed up the symbiote's movements though. It's supposed to be a puddle slithering across the ground, WTF is up with the flipping around thing!? But then again they completely screwed up Venom anyways so...

That wasn't so much a mistake as it was an artistic choice, one which I think is a vast improvement over the moing puddle from the comics. It looked more alive with it exhibiting a more crawling, tendrilous movement.