Comics Amazing Spider-Man #600 discussion thread

Me thinks Marvel got carried away the whole World knowing he was Spidey, so instead of picking and choosing who to forget they decided to wipe the slate clean and eventually get the people they feel should only know his I.D.
 
Were there really that many people who knew? This isn't Ultimate Spider-Man. I thought it was still a pretty tightly guarded secret. There were a handful of heroes and villains, but . . . who was it that knew they didn't want to know?
 
Were there really that many people who knew? This isn't Ultimate Spider-Man. I thought it was still a pretty tightly guarded secret. There were a handful of heroes and villains, but . . . who was it that knew they didn't want to know?

Umm...EVERYBODYknew. :huh::huh:
 
Were there really that many people who knew? This isn't Ultimate Spider-Man. I thought it was still a pretty tightly guarded secret. There were a handful of heroes and villains, but . . . who was it that knew they didn't want to know?

Um what part of the WHOLE WORLD did you not get?
 
Somehow, I get the feeling that Peter is going to reveal to Aunt May that he's Spider-Man. And, aside from her remembering everything as a result, the question fans will then ask Marvel will be, "If this was part of your plan all along, why the hell did you make her forget in the first place?"

The problem wasn't May or MJ or F4 knowing it was...EVERYONE knew.

It helped lead to some good storylines at the time, but ... you can't have everyone know, it just make Spidey loose something of his mystery.

So i dont think its wrong to slowly but surely let Pete build back up his trust to reveal his identity to those that should know.

Plus aside from F4 and his Avengers teammates, the only "normal" people that should know he is Spider-Man is May and MJ. Plus you have to also throw in Felicia
 
At this point i think Aunt May, MJ, Felicia and Daredevil are the only ones left who need to discover pete's i.d. Besides them, no one else should know.
 
The problem wasn't May or MJ or F4 knowing it was...EVERYONE knew.

It helped lead to some good storylines at the time, but ... you can't have everyone know, it just make Spidey loose something of his mystery.

So i dont think its wrong to slowly but surely let Pete build back up his trust to reveal his identity to those that should know.

Plus aside from F4 and his Avengers teammates, the only "normal" people that should know he is Spider-Man is May and MJ. Plus you have to also throw in Felicia

There are two problems with your analysis. One was the fact that Aunt May found out about her nephew being Spider-Man BEFORE Civil War. Many readers believed that it was because of this development, Aunt May for the first time in years actually became a relevant and important character in the comics.

The second problem is that having to reverse Spider-Man unmasking wasn't done to correct the problem of Spider-Man being driven into a corner because everyone knew his identity. It was intentionally done so Marvel could have an excuse for undoing the marriage between Peter and MJ via One More Day. Joe Quesada--by own admission--admitted that since the marriage was going to be erased anyway, they might as well go all out and have Spidey unmask and then reverse it when One More Day happened.

In the end, knowing what [One More Day] was going to be is what allowed us to go ahead with the unmasking of Spider-Man in "Civil War" -- we had our "way out" ahead of time, it was a great place to be.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=12238

The implication, it seems, was to intentionally take Spider-Man into a direction so far removed from who he was as a character, to make his world so grim and depressing that by the time One More Day happened, fans would be so grateful to Marvel for getting the character "back to basics" they would see the marriage being undone as a small sacrifice. At least in theory, anyway.
 
And now we're back on that slippery slope.....

Pete is taking off his mask for "Groups" of people..."teams"..!

Does he EVER learn??

WHY DOES IT ALWAYS SEEM LATELY THAT PETE IS WRITTEN OBLIVIOUS TO HIS OWN LIFE EXPERIENCES?

How'd this work for him before?

How'd it work for him to trust Tony Stark before?? ONE Avenger.

(Except now when he reveals himself to others, they are mentally healed)

He had the devil deal, yet now he alone didn't reboot everything, satan needed help from the easter bunny...er...the new Mystery (mind) Wiper took away the unmasking & the problems it caused...yet now Pete is letting GROUPS of people back in on his secret so QUICKLY. Makes no sense....even LESS sense than before when Joe did it because he was PLANNING THE REBOOT.

We all know how people are with secrets. They tell one person, their wife, tehir girlfriend, whatever, that person tell whomever...so on....

But Joe said he needed to tell these stories that he could never tell before....

So now we've got Pete unmasking, flash wounded in war, more goblins, spidey runs out webbing, can't get a girlfriend (isn't allowed) and Aunt May is sleeping around.

This could all be told with MJ and a marriage.....and already has.
 
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We all know how people are with secrets. They tell one person, their wife, tehir girlfriend, whatever, that person tell whomever...so on....

But Joe said he needed to tell these stories that he could never tell before....

So now we've got Pete unmasking, flash wounded in war, more goblins, spidey runs out webbing, can't get a girlfriend (isn't allowed) and Aunt May is sleeping around.

This could all be told with MJ and a marriage.....and already has.

I think its pretty obvious by now that, yea with some tweaks all of these stories could have been told with Pete still married to MJ. Bt based on Marvel's history, they just want Peter to not be married regardless of what can or cant be told.
 
Me thinks Marvel got carried away the whole World knowing he was Spidey, so instead of picking and choosing who to forget they decided to wipe the slate clean and eventually get the people they feel should only know his I.D.
Which, IMO, is a better move than having everybody know he's Spidey. Him having a secret identity added to the character. It was always great to see Peter try to hide his costume in front of his friends or something. That's why I think only a few people should know and not everybody.
 
I think its pretty obvious by now that, yea with some tweaks all of these stories could have been told with Pete still married to MJ. Bt based on Marvel's history, they just want Peter to not be married regardless of what can or cant be told.

Which makes it fair to point out that almost every single story from 1987-2007 could have been told with a single spidey.
 
I'll be the one who screams it until my dying breath, but I feel the stories from 1987 to 2007 were enhanced by the marriage. We had a single Spidey for 25 years before that. We had some great single Spidey stories...and then he was married. His marriage was often ignored, but it was there! It was nice to see a little character development for Peter....a LITTLE BIT or progression to show that he wasn't a college student anymore, but a MAN. He had grown-up.

The thing that kills me, is that Marvel had done SUCH a good job of writing the marriage the 5 years or so before OMD, that it honestly mde NO SENSE as to why they would end it. Peter and MJ were honestly handled better up until OMD than they had been in the beginning, and, if they had been handled as poorly as they were beforehand, I don't think anyone would hav ecared as much that the marriage was undone. It's like restoring and rebuilding a classic Camaro just to take it to the junk yard. I tmakes no sense.

I do find it funny that Peter can't have a wife, can't get a girlfriend, but being single was supposed to open up a new world of stories. Looks to me like they just eliminated a supporting character from the equation who has been around since the early days of Amazing(#42, I think). Well, she makes a cmaeo every so often to remind us that she's shagging other guys, now. :whatever:
 
I know we're beating a dead horse but i couldnt agree more shinlyle, MJ and Peter were handled so well before OMD and JMS gained continuous praise because of it. Plus the book was rising in sales as well, people LIKING JMS' direction for Peter Parker (for the most part anyway). No gimmicks, no crossovers, the book was thriving off of good storytelling and as we can all see from his current Thor run, JMs has a knack for great storytelling. It was only when Spidey got caught up in crossovers that the book decreased in quality, but EVERYTHING he did with JRJR was classic material. JMS created a new nemesis for Spiderman that was actually a serious threat, can that be said of any of the new BND villains? I think the increase in sales should've indicated to Marvel that people liked Peter parker/Spiderman the way he was and they probably should've just let him be.

We all know this "3x a month" thing isn't gonna last much longer, they cant keep it up forever. When they do eventually go back to once a month, i wonder what the sales performance is gonna be.
 
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I know we're beating a dead horse but i couldnt agree more shinlyle, MJ and Peter were handled so well before OMD and JMS gained continuous praise because of it. Plus the book was rising in sales as well, people LIKING JMS' direction for Peter Parker (for the most part anyway). No gimmicks, no crossovers, the book was thriving off of good storytelling and as we can all see from his current Thor run, JMs has a knack for great storytelling. It was only when Spidey got caught up in crossovers that the book decreased in quality, but EVERYTHING he did with JRJR was classic material. JMS created a new nemesis for Spiderman that was actually a serious threat, can that be said of any of the new BND villains? I think the increase in sales should've indicated to Marvel that people liked Peter parker/Spiderman the way he was and they probably should've just let him be.

We all know this "3x a month" thing isn't gonna last much longer, they cant keep it up forever. When they do eventually go back to once a month, i wonder what the sales performance is gonna be.



Honestly, the 3X schedule is still one of my main reasons for NOT adding ASM to my pull list. 12 bucks a month, and that's not including extras and annuals? I can't afford that! Now, 3-4 bucks a month, that I can do. Hell, even twice a month every now and then is okay.
 
I'll be the one who screams it until my dying breath, but I feel the stories from 1987 to 2007 were enhanced by the marriage.


I completely agree. But you can't have it both ways (you,pl.; not you,shin :) ). If the presence of the marriage changes the feel and backdrop of the stories, then by default, the absence of it does the same. That's all I'm arguing, that this argument of "These stories could be told with a married Spidey" is bogus. Of course they could be told. But they would be different. In your(pl) opinion: in a worse way. In mine: in a better way.
 
Honestly, the 3X schedule is still one of my main reasons for NOT adding ASM to my pull list. 12 bucks a month, and that's not including extras and annuals? I can't afford that! Now, 3-4 bucks a month, that I can do. Hell, even twice a month every now and then is okay.

ASM cost me 2.99 this month (it looks like you're assuming it's 3.99, maybe it will be soon, I don't know)

3X 2.99 = $9 a month (very close to your twice a month 3.99 cost of $8)

Subscribe to the title through Marvel (I do), and get it for almost 50% off ($4.50 a month, striking distance to your goal of 3-4 bucks a month) :)
 
Queseda's cover in colour:

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Joe Q. draws one hellva Spidey.

On the other discussion...

I know the reason the "OMG" happened, but having May revealed to know the secret was a great thing, brought the character to relevance in a big bad way. Plus MJ and Pete's relationship was maybe at its absolute best during the time before Civil War and even after it, they were just written so well on the page.
 
People asking/receiving permission to buy a comic book are really pathetic...even if its done in joking sense.
 

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