Anubis' "How would you do it?" Thread.

Yeah, he has all the powers of the symbiotes before him, but with his experiences and his faith (while he isn't going for priest any longer, he is still a devout catholic) he is actually able to sperate the Symbiote's consiousness from his own. the symbiote is constantly telling him things, how to kill, how violent. just to piss the symbiote off, Redemption names him Bob.

I also envision May being more her father's daughter. a geek to the Nth power. I imagine Peter transfer's to her school one day it is just like BAM instant love.
but they don't know eachother in uniform. despite how MJ-Peter parker they are, they don't tell each other about their "other lives". a result being that Tom-Cat and Spider-Girl hate each other. Spider-Girl has her father's sense of humor, and Tom-Cat thinks she doesn't take things seriously enough. Spider-Girl thinks Tom-Cat is too straight lace and uptight and a little extreme (though he doesn't kill, he does maim)
 
lol :D

Bob, thats funny.

Yeah man, the more I hear the more I dig it. I think they could even make this Redemption character work in the 616 universe.

The Tom-Cat/Spider-Girl relationship sounds a bit like her relationship with The Buzz in the current Spider-Girl series, only, she's not in love with him in civilian life, but she did like him for awhile. That would be cool if they're dating and all lovie dovey, and then when they put on the costumes, they can't stand each other.
 
The Clone Saga. I would have ended it like the original idea for the saga was. Have both Ben and Peter fighting the Jackel right before the lab goes up in flames. Only one of them survives but they have amnesia and cant remember if they are the real Peter or clone.

I would keep Kaine around though. Just like I said in my other post.
 
thats the idea. when they find out (I'm thinking Goblin intervention) about eachother, they break-up, and try dating other people, but thats when the Toxin things starts up.

Redemption, his alternate persona, eventually gets a job as an advice columnist at an LA news paper. he has some trouble with relationships and stuff, plus his self identity. (He is a reformed violent criminal.)
 
In the aftermath of Nu Avengers I'd launch a bunch of books based on characters who werent used...
Antman & Wasp
Submariner
Quicksilver
Wonderman
 
I suppose I'll throw my ideas into the mix.

"How would Dread do..."

Venom: Lethal Protector: This essentially a personal thing with me, since I was getting into comics strongly around this time, and Venom was a character I identified with during a rough patch of time in my childhood. But I always felt that this potential period, of Venom moving away from his hatred and revenge of Spider-Man and towards his more ambitious goal, protecting and avenging "the innocent" (after all, his own motive for attacking Spider-Man was that he felt Spider-Man took away his innocence, as well as the innocence of others around him) was mishandled almost from the start. Firstly, it was the 90's, and there were limits to what you could do in the line of "maturity". No Marvel Knights, no MAX comics, etc. We still had fads like hologram covers and so on. Secondly, too much of an effort was made to make Venom into a mainstream superhero, when he should have been an anti-hero like The Hulk or Punisher. Thirdly, there was too much conveluted crap involving the alien symbiote, which overshadowed Brock as a man, a feat that has endured almost throughout the character's history. Everyone thinks Brock is a weak character because he wasn't, oh, the father of Peter's best friend or something. He wasn't developped well, but all this wacky sci-fi crap with symbiotes was overdone. The point of Venom was that Brock was a man who did have his morals, but when his world collapsed all around him, he snapped and then was given power by another tragic being.

I always saw Venom as being in the gray area of Marvel. He's a vigilante but a monterous one, ripping criminals apart and still eating brains, marking his territory with blood to drive fear. Venom is the Id behind Brock. Brock as a man continues with this struggle, this mission to avenge and protect innocence, because he feels there is nothing else he can do. He is hunted, hated, feared, etc. He has to avenge the innocent because he is forever trying to salvage his own, which he cannot. Venom would be the savage Urban Legend type of monster that hunts the wicked, and Brock would be the man who lives in harmony with the monster inside him, forced to live a nomadic existence because of it. Also, I would stop the notion that the alien symbiote is always "evil". Why are aliens always evil? That's the easy way out. I saw the symbiote as simply being what it was; needed to feed on a host body to live and the by-products of that provided the host power, but also altered the mind. I saw Brock and the symbiote merging as one in a bond that is almost like love, but not love (the lonely Brock would even imagine the asexual symbiote as a female voice and such, but that is purely subjective). And of course, few have Venom's twisted, dark humor in battle. I figured in this role Venom could have been more interesting, and I even wrote a fan-fic about it.

Moon Knight: I've had ideas on revamping Moon Knight for ages, but unforunately the dilemma is; do you have someone else become Moon Knight, or stick with Marc Spectre, who could be interesting in his own right? I always saw Moon Knight as an occultish, pulp hero in the line of The Shadow and The Phantom. Unfortunately, Marvel is a superhero company and so he came off eventually as a poor man's Batman, which is never going to work. I would kept the origin the same but expanded on the occult elements. For example, Spectre became Moon Knight when the Egyptian God of the Moon, Knoshnu, revived him from the dead after he was left in the desert to die by his fellow merc, Bushman. That's fine, but let's add some more. Take a page from The Phantom and claim that Moon Knight has existed almost from the rise of the Egyptian empire, the essence of the Fist of Knoshnu moving from one host to the other, passed on to someone new when the next one dies, to give the impression that Moon Knight, like justice, is immortal, and never dies. Marvel could use a "ghost who walks" in a sea of superheroes and mutants.

And for the powers. Moon Knight I always saw as brilliant because his very powers allow for his power levels to rise and fall, therefore, you can have him potent in one story and weaker in another for drama and it's all accurate! Have his strength rise in proportion to the phases of the moon; say, a full 3 ton class on a full moon, no gains during a New Moon, and various levels of strength in-between (Crescent Moon, Half Moon, 3-Quarter Moon). I would also allow the transformation into Moon Knight to be more mystical. The costume is a mystical one that forms over him at night, and he is forced to his task of fighting evil and righting injustice, otherwise his body will deteriorate. Moon Knight would also be able to travel where-ever moon light travels, responding and appearing almost automatically to moments of distress or evil. And, to get him out of overcluttered New York, Moon Knight operates around Africa/Middle East/areas around Egypt or that sector of the world, where Moon Knight is such a strong superstition that children have a rhyme about him to say as a prayer at night. Because, of course, there has always been a Moon Knight. Some Egyptian themed weapons wouldn't be bad, but less of a reliance on Bat-esque armor or technology and more on his mystical powers of strength and teleportation (and of course, Spectre's own honed skilled, kept to their peak vigor when in the magical costume and guise of Moon Knight).

Moon Knight should also encounter not only human evils and immorality, but supernatural ones, too. And I'd see him as distant toward superheroes. I mean, how do you invite The Shadow to the Avengers?

As for Spectre's sanity...being a vehicle for an almighty hand of vengence can surely drive a man mad. Ever read DC's The Spectre? Moon Knight is made to react almost automatically to distress, just as the generations change, so must the host and identity of Moon Knight. A legacy, which Marvel has little of aside for Green Goblins (notice how they are trying to backtrack and do that with Black Panther). Does Marc see himself as just a tool of the god or a man worthy of such power under his own right? Instant tension.

That's all so far.
 
nice job on all Dread.....
.....one thing Hasnt the Legacy of Black Panther always been there????
 
Holy crap. I always enjoy your post Dread. You even had me intrested in freakin Venom. :up: Great job. I would love to see Your Moon Knight. Hell, any Moon Knight would be good enough for me. :up:
 
roach said:
nice job on all Dread.....
.....one thing Hasnt the Legacy of Black Panther always been there????


It has but they never really went into it much.
 
roach said:
In the aftermath of Nu Avengers I'd launch a bunch of books based on characters who werent used...
Antman & Wasp
Submariner
Quicksilver
Wonderman


My thoughts of a Hank Pym Mini, with him trapped in a Subatomic universe were pretty much in the same vain as your ideas. I really feel that all the Disassembled tie-ins should came after the story was over. I haven't decided how the mini would have gone, but I would have had Hank coming out of it a stronger person because of the ordeal. I would have had him abandon the superhero roles all together and just became Dr.Pym again. With more of a Doc Savage thing going on with him. Really, Pym should have his own series.
 
Dread said:
I suppose I'll throw my ideas into the mix.

"How would Dread do..."

Venom: Lethal Protector: This essentially a personal thing with me, since I was getting into comics strongly around this time, and Venom was a character I identified with during a rough patch of time in my childhood. But I always felt that this potential period, of Venom moving away from his hatred and revenge of Spider-Man and towards his more ambitious goal, protecting and avenging "the innocent" (after all, his own motive for attacking Spider-Man was that he felt Spider-Man took away his innocence, as well as the innocence of others around him) was mishandled almost from the start. Firstly, it was the 90's, and there were limits to what you could do in the line of "maturity". No Marvel Knights, no MAX comics, etc. We still had fads like hologram covers and so on. Secondly, too much of an effort was made to make Venom into a mainstream superhero, when he should have been an anti-hero like The Hulk or Punisher. Thirdly, there was too much conveluted crap involving the alien symbiote, which overshadowed Brock as a man, a feat that has endured almost throughout the character's history. Everyone thinks Brock is a weak character because he wasn't, oh, the father of Peter's best friend or something. He wasn't developped well, but all this wacky sci-fi crap with symbiotes was overdone. The point of Venom was that Brock was a man who did have his morals, but when his world collapsed all around him, he snapped and then was given power by another tragic being.

I always saw Venom as being in the gray area of Marvel. He's a vigilante but a monterous one, ripping criminals apart and still eating brains, marking his territory with blood to drive fear. Venom is the Id behind Brock. Brock as a man continues with this struggle, this mission to avenge and protect innocence, because he feels there is nothing else he can do. He is hunted, hated, feared, etc. He has to avenge the innocent because he is forever trying to salvage his own, which he cannot. Venom would be the savage Urban Legend type of monster that hunts the wicked, and Brock would be the man who lives in harmony with the monster inside him, forced to live a nomadic existence because of it. Also, I would stop the notion that the alien symbiote is always "evil". Why are aliens always evil? That's the easy way out. I saw the symbiote as simply being what it was; needed to feed on a host body to live and the by-products of that provided the host power, but also altered the mind. I saw Brock and the symbiote merging as one in a bond that is almost like love, but not love (the lonely Brock would even imagine the asexual symbiote as a female voice and such, but that is purely subjective). And of course, few have Venom's twisted, dark humor in battle. I figured in this role Venom could have been more interesting, and I even wrote a fan-fic about it.

Moon Knight: I've had ideas on revamping Moon Knight for ages, but unforunately the dilemma is; do you have someone else become Moon Knight, or stick with Marc Spectre, who could be interesting in his own right? I always saw Moon Knight as an occultish, pulp hero in the line of The Shadow and The Phantom. Unfortunately, Marvel is a superhero company and so he came off eventually as a poor man's Batman, which is never going to work. I would kept the origin the same but expanded on the occult elements. For example, Spectre became Moon Knight when the Egyptian God of the Moon, Knoshnu, revived him from the dead after he was left in the desert to die by his fellow merc, Bushman. That's fine, but let's add some more. Take a page from The Phantom and claim that Moon Knight has existed almost from the rise of the Egyptian empire, the essence of the Fist of Knoshnu moving from one host to the other, passed on to someone new when the next one dies, to give the impression that Moon Knight, like justice, is immortal, and never dies. Marvel could use a "ghost who walks" in a sea of superheroes and mutants.

And for the powers. Moon Knight I always saw as brilliant because his very powers allow for his power levels to rise and fall, therefore, you can have him potent in one story and weaker in another for drama and it's all accurate! Have his strength rise in proportion to the phases of the moon; say, a full 3 ton class on a full moon, no gains during a New Moon, and various levels of strength in-between (Crescent Moon, Half Moon, 3-Quarter Moon). I would also allow the transformation into Moon Knight to be more mystical. The costume is a mystical one that forms over him at night, and he is forced to his task of fighting evil and righting injustice, otherwise his body will deteriorate. Moon Knight would also be able to travel where-ever moon light travels, responding and appearing almost automatically to moments of distress or evil. And, to get him out of overcluttered New York, Moon Knight operates around Africa/Middle East/areas around Egypt or that sector of the world, where Moon Knight is such a strong superstition that children have a rhyme about him to say as a prayer at night. Because, of course, there has always been a Moon Knight. Some Egyptian themed weapons wouldn't be bad, but less of a reliance on Bat-esque armor or technology and more on his mystical powers of strength and teleportation (and of course, Spectre's own honed skilled, kept to their peak vigor when in the magical costume and guise of Moon Knight).

Moon Knight should also encounter not only human evils and immorality, but supernatural ones, too. And I'd see him as distant toward superheroes. I mean, how do you invite The Shadow to the Avengers?

As for Spectre's sanity...being a vehicle for an almighty hand of vengence can surely drive a man mad. Ever read DC's The Spectre? Moon Knight is made to react almost automatically to distress, just as the generations change, so must the host and identity of Moon Knight. A legacy, which Marvel has little of aside for Green Goblins (notice how they are trying to backtrack and do that with Black Panther). Does Marc see himself as just a tool of the god or a man worthy of such power under his own right? Instant tension.

That's all so far.

Dude if Marvel accepts your pitch for Moon Knight and my pitch for Werewolf By Night, we should do a crossover.
 
I actually posted several fan-fictions at Hype some years ago, but after their last major revamp most of them were lost. They were mostly Spider-Man stories (I have most of them saved on a disc). However, the one with Venom is still hidden in the fan-fiction forum.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52200&page=1&pp=25

Man, been two years since that one. That was my last major fic. I have a lot of ideas for more fics but haven't had the time or the energy in ages. I really should get some of them done.

Glad many of you seemed to like my ideas.

Now for another...

"How would Dread do..."

New Avengers: I mentioned this idea way back when someone had a "make your own Avengers team" topic in this forum, but since I guess the idea fits this topic I'll restate it, and hope not to be ripped off. Basically, my idea was for some ex-Avengers to try to gather many of the "younger" superheroes, the next generation as it were, and try to show them the ropes in hopes of keeping the spirit of the then-disbanded Avengers alive through them. I had dubbed it "Avengers: Next Generation" and had a very ambitious roster:

The Teachers: Retired Avengers who now seek to teach some of what they learned to the younger heroes:

Justice
Firestar (both now a married couple, Firestar expecting a child)
James Rhodes (fresh from having sold his armor in The Crew)
Stingray (I figured they could use his hi-tech base sometimes, and he could be the wise scientist of the team)

The Next Generation

Nova
Night-Thrasher
Namorita (planned on returning her Kymera name, if only to seperate her from Namor)
Speedball
Dusk
Ricochet
Prodigy
Squirrel-Girl
Darkhawk

Associates/Guest Speakers
Silohette
Rage
Moon Knight

Of course, the Next Generation was mostly a mishmash of various New Warriors and Slingers, which was the point. I figured if Marvel wants a "Teen Titans", they may as well do it right. I always saw the New Warriors at their best attempt at something like that, a team of teenaged heroes who one day wanted to become Avengers, much like many Teen Titans grew up and some actually became Justice Leaguers or solo heroes. Nova would be like your "head of the class" type, since he has always wanted to be an Avenger, Speedball evolving in a wisecracking kind of hero (who has a dark side), and Night-Thrasher actually calmed down a bit during his haitus and is hesitant to go back into "angry vigilante" mode. But essentially these three would want to become Avengers most of all. Darkhawk is an odd character and my angle for him was that he was becoming more violent and inhuman in terms of personality the more often he became Darkhawk, since basically what would happen is that Simon Powel's mind would go into Darkhawk's techno-organic alien body, while his human body was in some alien ship/realm, where Darkhawk was when Powel wasn't summoning him. I figured the more often Powel's mind was in Darkhawk, the sooner he would lose his humanity and start to become more violent, like the machine, a fate he seeks to avoid. As for the 3 remaining Slingers, they have become darker in nature since the death of their pal Hornet at the hands of Wolverine, and they want to become part of this new order because they don't trust "the adults" much anymore. They are basically tired of seeing the world and others kept in a "soap opera" by the current adult heroes, so they join so they can be more involved in affairs. And Squirrel Girl? That's solely on a poster's topic here and I figured she'd be fun as the least experienced person there, like the reader's way in (as well as by virtue of a recommendation by Iron Man, and her victory, somehow, over Dr. Doom).

I really hadn't planned a main storyline yet, aside for various short adventures that gave everyone specific focus one at a time. The point of the "teachers" wouldn't exactly be to teach them how to be heroes, since all of them have been heroes for an adventure or dozens of adventures. The point would be to show them how to be a team, like New Avengers. Some of those shorter adventures being: someone managing to get the War Machine armor and capitlize on the bad will the Avengers have post-Dissassembled and frame Rhodes for crimes, a potential tale connecting Thrasher to the vigilante Cardiac, Speedball driven over the edge by a serial killer, and so on. One theme would be that some of the Avengers old enemies who missed out on the chance to beat the real Avengers before they disbanded now may go after the "kids" simply out of spite, like Ultron. Teenage heroes need to earn their wings through trials of fire, so after some shorter adventures, it'd be time to have them face big guns.

That's all for now, again. Of course, Vaughn is now doing a somewhat simular thing with having reformed teen heroes assemble in "Runaways" right now, which is awesome beyond words.
 
Cool angle on the remaining Slingers. I could see Prodigy and Nova vying for leadership and Speedball and Ricochet playing practical jokes on the others.
 
Its a good idea, but I think that that woulda been a great idea for young Avengers, or hell, you coulda called Young Avengers New Avengers and just kept the real Avengers as well. I had a few ideas for Avengers after disassembled, but it mostly involved the old team coming back together with a few new ones like Nova. Always felt that he needed to be moved into the big leagues. And I also liked the inclusion of the Sentry, even though he brings with him alot of baggage. The key is how to bring him back without s*&ting on what he was originally created as. I'll have to think about it some more, I'll get back later.
 
Continuing along...

"How would Dread Do..."

Kristoff Von Doom: Only us hardcore Marvel zombies have any idea who he is, which is a shame because there is some potential here. Of course, any character that brings up a notion of a "legacy" outside of Goblins and Maximoff's is usually left in limbo or not even concieved in Marvel (which is not the same as DC, which has legacies up the wazoo). Cutting out the fat, Kristoff Von Doom was a Latverian lad that was plucked up by Dr. Doom's robots during one of the times he was believed to be missing or dead, and bred to be his successor or heir. Eventually Doom naturally was fine and started instructing the boy, although he ran around the Fantastic Four for a while during their pre-Onslaught 90's period. At latest he was under 14 years old, and depending on some artists, not much older than Franklyn Richards (who I doubt will ever reach puberty before I collect Social Security).

Anyhow, my idea for reviving him for the audience would be to essentially allow him to prove himself before Doom and the reader. I suppose it would be a "relaunch" and naturally a mini-series that Marvel would never in their right minds publish, unless they could stick either Wolverine or the word BENDIS on the cover. The rundown would be that Kristoff returns to Latvernia, now an older teenager of , say, 18-19 years old (aging 4-5 years when it has been at least a decade since your last appearence seems fair to me). His "limbo" is explained by him having been travelling the world learning things he needed to become a rightful "heir" to Doom, as Doom told him that he lacked time to raise him and to set out on his own, like he did as a youth. So Kristoff returns, the opposite in some ways than Doom, since he is young, handsome, and while he has learned many things, seems more intent on focusing on magic rather than science, although merging both in his own way (Doom relies more on science by choice, to contrast easily, even though as a mage, Doom is second only to Dr. Strange). But, Doom refuses to even grant Kristoff an audience until he is "worthy" or is a ruler himself. Which means Kristoff has to go off and conquer someplace, like Doom took over Latvernia. So the impetuous Kristoff chooses the one land that not even Magneto could control:

The Savage Land.

Now, I know everyone is groaning, "Argh, ANOTHER Savage Land story!" and I agree, the Savage Land has sadly been overdone to death. But to me it seems fit since it is a major Marvel land that usually doesn't have a stable ruler for very long, has its own mystique and mysticism, as well as technology at its core (alien and Atalantian technology powers the Savage Land). So the tale is essentially like a less savage Conan story, as Kristoff sets out with his armor, his skills/spells and what not, and sets out to take over the land, alone. And of course, the contrast here is that he is not as hard as Doom and thus doesn't spread wantan violence. He does things like actually UNITE the Fall People and the Mutates, who are usually brutal enemies (including, of course, a ritual combat duel with Ka-Zar). And there is a vast exploration as he learns new magics and the inner workings of the Savage Land. He's not a tyrant who rules with an iron fist, but naturally not perfect, either, being young and a bit "romantic" (in the literal sense, not the sexual sense, although he WILL fall for someone...).

The problem is when he eventually returns to Doom, now the "ruler" of the Savage Land, Doom automatically assumes that Kristoff is still alligned with him, and pretty much asks/threatens for Kristoff to turn over the Savage Land to Doom, or at best act as his puppet ruler of a colony. So this starts breif war between Latveria and The Savage Land, which would be the 3rd act. Naturally, Dr. Doom's inclination would be to invade with robots, flying warships, and laser canons, while the more "elf" magic esque Kristoff's inclination would be to, say, convert some T-Rex's to organic steel and quadruple their size, clog machines with plants, etc. Basically it would end with a treaty and Kristoff joining that proud few in Marvel who can claim leadership over a nation (Doom, Black Panther, Black Bolt, Namor, breifly Magneto, etc).

Its meant as an open ended tale that leaves a new dynamic for the Savage Land. Times wouldn't be perfect, and Kristoff would vow not to taint the land with outside forces or too much tech, but of course since everyone keeps using the Savage Land, there would be consequences, especially to those who may not have wanted Kristoff ruling there.

That's it.
 
Well, if you don't want to overdo the Savage Land even more, you could always make Kristoff REALLY precocious and have him try to conquer Asgard or Olympus or something. ;)
 
At his level, he couldn't really conquer Asgard or Olympus. He's not tough enough. I like the sort of "jungle explorer" bit that comes with the Savage Land, though. Like he gains allies as he goes along, that kind of thing. Really trying to unify things. I mean, soon as the Gods came back, he'd be pretty much punted.

Besides, the "ruling a land that Magneto gave up on" isn't a bad tagline.
 
Yeah, I was just kidding. Although it'd be pretty interesting to see Doom himself lay siege to Asgard and win. If Asgard were still around, anyway.
 
The problem with Asgard would be that once the gods return, which is inevitable, Kristoff or Doom really shouldn't be able to maintain a hold over that for long, especially since the status quo of Asgard had Thor, Odin, or some Asgardian at the throne in-between Surtur attacks or Ragnorok stories.

But the Savage Land really keeps changing every time someone does a story, various power bases and factions, so Kristoff becoming a more permanent ruler there I figured would fit the MU better.

Frankly, my "Avengers: Next Generation" idea would probably draw more fan ire than some Bendis stuff, considering how I'd likely write the characters. Some of them I know and some I don't, and some I would be deliberately trying to take new spins on to make them more unique (like Darkhawk). And I guess the biggest mistake may be attempting to play Squirrel Girl straight, as in not in a goofy comedy comic like GLA.
 
I believe Doom could both take and hold Asgard if he had some help. Maybe if he allied himself with Loki. Sure, he can't physically take on Thor or Odin, but he'd be more than a match for the lesser gods like Balder and Sif. And, let's face it, no one in Asgard is as smart as Reed or Doom. After all, Doom did manage to conquer not one, but TWO Earths, harness the powers of the Beyonder and the Silver Surfer, and out-manipulate Mephisto.

But I'm way off on a fanboy tangent now. I don't know how well Squirrel Girl would work outside of a comedy at first, but over time I don't think she would be too hard to swallow. All it takes is some serious issues for the character to deal with to force a reader to view them in a serious light.
 
Oh, Squirrel Girl would still be a "joker" type of hero like Speedball and Ricochet (although the loss of Hornet, his best friend, would make him a bit dark like the other Slingers). Just the point would be that she has this really silly power and she's trying to play with bigger leagues of people who have more classic and potent powers (and loads more experience and team unity). Characters like that tend to identify with the reader, who hardly is a potent superhero like Nova. Like, for example, her filing down her "rodent" like teeth to fit in with people better, is a kind of quirk that may give her some fan empathy. If readers didn't like the "trying to fit in" quirk, well, then X-MEN wouldn't have lasted long. ;)

Fanboy tangents are fine. Isn't that what this topic is sort of for?
 
That it is my friend.


I gotta put something down. Dreads been blowing everybody away with his stuff.

O.k., my idea for a future FF. MC2, whatever. The team is lead by Val Richards. She never gains any powers, but she is supersmart, just like dad. She should have spent some time as a captive of Doom. Having had been schooled in the art of magic and been brainwashed to fight against her own family. She eventually gets saved by her family, and she vows never to use magic again. But of course, from time to time she has no other option. She grows up and marries the superhero formally known as Sammy the Fish boy, now called Argonaught, and eventually takes over as leader and CEO of Fantasticorp. She totally revitalizes the company. Extending trade with alternate diminsions. Tons of scientists and adventures, exploring various new worlds and subatomic universes. Imaginaught is now a job. And at the core is the FF. The main team which Ms. Fantastic leads.

Argonaut - Well, this guy needs a secondary mutation bad, so added to his ability to breath underwater we give him Super Strength and Durability. His story is that at some point in the future, a war between Humans and Mutants forces tons of Mutants to migrate. The mutant refugees are accepted into Atlantis by Namor. He takes the little fish kid under his wing and he becomes a pretty bad@$$ warrior. He meets Val during some adventure in Atlantis with the FF and they fall hard for each other. So he's there when she reorganizes the new FF.

Luna - Daughter of Quicksilver and Crystal, she joins up with the FF at the request of Val. Now, we know she doesn't have any mutations, but as a member of the Inhumans she has to undergo the Terrigen Mists thing. So she comes out as something of a butterfly thing going on. With wings and attena, and she has powers over light. Like Hard-Light constructs and force fields.

Franklin Richards - Well, he has to be toned down some. We could go with him keeping blocks in his mind to keep him just powerful enough like he is in the MC2 universe. We could say that he had alot of his powers drained away by lets say, Galactis? At any rate, he should be powerful, but not God like, but he does have the potential should something happen of a huge enough scale. Then, just like now, he would act through his subconcious. I'm still not sure weather to really put him on the team. I had an idea were he would become Galactis' Heald. ANd he would be the perfect Herald becaus instead of just warning people, he could create a pocket universe were they continue to live there lives without even knowing that their planet has been absorbed by the big G. Even carry around a pouch filled with tiny marbles that are really universes like on MIB or something.


I woulda had them form because, of course, DOOM. Escaping from where ever it is they had him locked up after Val escapes his grasp, promting the now retired FF to go after him on a inter dimensional chase. To finally find that basterd and put him down for good. Val recrutes the rest to go after them and help her parents. They could even touch down in the regular MU before finally going at it in the final battle in which here father and Doom are killed. She comes back and decides to keep this new FF together, to continue her fathers work. Take on the really hard jobs that the imaginaughts cant handle, and kick the @$$ of whoever wants some. Be it anybody from Anniulis to Mephisto or whatever.
 
Sounds pretty cool, Anubis.

Now another from me:

"How would Dread do.."

An Iron Fist solo series: Before I get into some long winded idea, I suppose I will admit that out of all my fan-fic/Marvel ideas, Iron Fist is the most simplistic and shallow. In fact, so much so that I could sum it up in about 4 words: Iron Fist beats people. But to this I would add, "who count." What I mean is, over the years, Iron Fist has lost a lot of his luster and I doubt most fans would consider him Marvel's UBER martial artist...when he should be. The problem is, if he is losing to Wolverine or stuck fighting nameless nobodies from his last attempt at a series (which was horribly mediocre at best), he won't get much attention. And of course, even a solo book with Iron Fist would include those lovely minxes, the Daughters of the Dragon for support (what with Luke Cage with the New Avengers and Jessica Jones and all). And may as well throw in the psychic Native American teenager from his last series for continuity.

The other basic statement would be, "Rand gets his groove back." Naturally, Danny decides to go back to being a Hero for Hire, but with Cage, his best partner, starting a family and working as a New Avenger, that means going back to solo work. However, he has been outside of the loop so long that even in the world of Marvel, his phone isn't ringing off the hook like it used to, which means he has to advertise the only way he knows how: by defeating a hi-profile villian. He engages the Rhino in a brawl, and due to skill and wit manages to defeat him, and naturally takes that change to advertise for the news media upon the victory. This leads to his first official job: he is hired to track down Roderick Kingsley, the original Hobgoblin, back from whatever island he is hiding out on with some stashed millions for trial. So this leads to the Paradise Islands where Mr. Kingsley gets a surprise appearence from the Iron Fist, with an aireal battle that provides many a sight for the tourists around them. Fist manages to beat him, which naturally will get SHIELD's attention, as he had been on a Top Ten list for years.

Meanwhile, of course, the Daughters of the Dragon will have tracked down and hooked up with Rand, Danny and Misty Knight of course having that chemistry, although Knight is seeing someone else. I had brainstormed another "hire" for Iron Fist, him being hired to capture Wolverine for his role in the murder of the Hornet, and upon defeating him, it turns out his hires were The Slingers, who want to see revenge. Naturally, some conversation may save Wolverine from the slammer, and hopefully avert the Slingers from a destructive course. I know I mentioned the Slingers in the last idea, but sue me, I see potential there with the death of their friend. They surely wouldn't ignore it. But this was an aside (as well as a possible fight with Silver Samurai).

The meat of the mission is that SHIELD hires Iron Fist to capture a criminal that no matter what they did, they could never find; The Foriegner. He's actually never stopped his crime campaign, he simply left NYC and did more international hits, of ambassadors and so forth with his cabal, outside the scope of many Marvel heroes. Every agent who got close to him wound up dead, which of course is why Fist is hired. While most fans wouldn't know who Foriegner is, they certainly would know the name of one of his associates: Sabretooth. The climax of the series would be a rematch between Iron Fist and Sabretooth, the latter being much more popular and powerful than when they duked it out before. WIZARD noted this idea first, but it is really a no-brainer. Of course, with Foriegner being able to hire more assassins (I considered Elektra, before she died again), and his ex-wife being Silver Sable, who knows who could be hooked in. I even debated an appearence from Black Cat, who also had ties to Foriegner once (and is being overrated, ahem, used a lot in MK Spider-Man).

Yes, it seems shallow. But I see Iron Fist as a pulse pounding martial artist, and therefore the only way to impress fans with his battles will be to construct exciting matches with villians they know and care about, so Fist can impress them. Of course, getting into Fist's head with his supporting cast may be key too, nailing down why he does what he does. He's driven by the loss of his father, but yet doesn't go that final mile and kill his enemies. Sabretooth, in his ruthless, unhonorable attacks, may push that moral over the edge.
 
Cool. Thats sounds much better than the last piece of crap Iron Fist book they put out. I can't believe I bought like 5 issues of that. I was just as disappointed with DC's Richard Dragon book.

I like the idea of Fist taking on much more popular characters. Somebody needs to kick Wolvie's ass. Seriously. ANd I would love to see him get into it with Taskmaster or Deadpool. A storyarc with Rand vs Deadpool would be kick@$$.
 

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