Shia was definitely the star of that movie.
Why would it have anything to do with Y? It was a good performance though.
You seemed to think because he did one cheap-o R-rated flick that no one ever saw means that Y will probably be R as well.
Indys not rated yet. The PG rumor was involved with the trailer's rating.
Dude, no Indiana Jones movie has ever been rated above PG-13. It's family entertainment. Indiana Jones doesn't mean Shia LeBouf gets an R-rated audience. It will pretty much be the same audience that saw Transformers last summer.
But how'd 300 get greenlit?
It along with another 300 Spartans movie were in development for quite some time in Hollywood, the other one was GATES OF FIRE which was being developed by George Clooney. Zach Snyder hit it big after DAWN OF THE DEAD and came onto 300. 300? How did it get greenlit? Two words: SIN CITY.
Seems like the guy who won't compromise the quality if he has the power to do so.
Shia LeBouf does not have the clout or credibility to command that kind of power. He's the Hollywood IT Boy at the moment and a rising star, but he's not Tom Cruise or Will Smith.
Something else for you guys to think about. Virtually few if any directors in Hollywood ever get final cut on a movie, especially a big studio movie.
What are the movies where he was the headlining star were stinkers?
Well one he was in that definitely sucked was I, ROBOT. Another was CONSTANTINE. I, ROBOT alienated Alex Proyas from Fox and pretty much Hollywood in general.
Indiana Jones will get a PG-13 rating. It would never go to the status of a "freaking family movie." Go back and watch the films, there just wasn't a PG-13 rating until after Indy 2.
They are family movies. Opening weekend families will be going to see the movie and taking their kids to see it just like Star Wars and Spider-man. Get over it.
Don't act like Indiana Jones is edgy almost R-rated material.
The franchise targets all demos and has been around for over 25 years. Eagle Eye probably won't be R but it sure isn't going to be a freaking family movie.
All demos = broad family friendly material like Pixar films. And there's nothing wrong with that.
So what if its a family movie or not, its still not going to be R as a Shia LeBouf star vehicle.
If WB will allow 300 and Watchmen to have no names and a lot of money invested for an R rated film but won't allow Shia because he finished a kids show 6 years ago and starred in some of the biggest films of the summer during that time (Transformers 1/2 and Indy 4) to star in a R rated adaptation of Y:The Last Man then who would the studio allow to star in that role?
300 had probably half of the budget of Watchmen. The film was also testing excellently which put a lot of faith in it for WB. 300 was also building off of the popularity of SIN CITY as well. Also, it's a sword and sandals war epic. When those are done in PG-13, its safe material for an R-rating. I think you aren't realizing another reason 300 had an R-rating because it didn't have a big star in it like Shia LeBouf who plays best with a PG-13 audience.
You can believe what you want, and live in your happy world avoiding Hollywood and studio politics. But the fact of the matter is this, plain and simple, a studio will not simply get behind an R-rated comic book movie starring Shia LeBouf if its a Shia LeBouf star vehicle.
The only reason Watchmen is happening as it is right now is because of 300. So you can keep ignoring that as well. Snyder at Wondercon talked about it, before the release of 300, WB didn't like the idea of an R-rated comic book super hero movie.
Dude, don't show me this ****ing bull****. You are pissing me the hell off. Did I say I agree with the philosophy? No I don't! I know there is money in R-rated movies. I know R-rated movies can play with mainstream audiences and make a ton of money! I ****ING KNOW! I hate the idea that Y would be dumbed down and cut to a PG-13 rating. I'm simply trying to fill you guys in on the reality of the situation.
That doesn't mean that people still aren't stubborn or set on certain things and how they feel a star or draw plays with certain crowds.
You show the cities around the world with all the dead men and the disaster area looking America, the one breasted Daughters of Amazon, Yorrick cracking one liners, the fight on the train, the mask he wears, the White House scene, the town of female criminals etc., Yorrick's encounter with Sonia and any dialogue that adds intrigue in the trailer it will do well if it remains faithful.
I've read every single issue of Y. I've read the 1st draft. While I'm not sure how well it could actually play to an audience, you are letting your fandom cloud your judgement.
Chances are WB will essentially want something like I AM LEGEND, but more youth oriented with Shia, and more wise-cracking since the comics have an odd, wicked sense of humor.
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I wish I had those powers.
