I saw it. And a dozen of friends of mine.
So what? Do you guys want a cookie? I said hardly anyone.
Never claimed they were. What is an R rated audience? Those that don't go see PG-13 films? Those who fell in love with Indy during their teens, 20s and 30s will be back to see this and if they like Shia probably would go see him in an action movie where he's the last man on earth.
R-rated audience = 17 yo's and above. Typically a smaller demographic than PG-13 or PG.
The point is, the studios don't want to cut out a huge demographic chunk they think Shia LeBouf plays best with. That simple.
Shame these films are made in America 'cause everywhere else, thankfully, the ratings certification boards allow most teenagers to see most R rated films.
I'm also referring to the tons of pre-teens and below that Hollywood wants Shia LeBouf to see.
We'll see after his next three films release.
Its not something you can get after a few films. You basically need the consistent drawing power for over a decade that someone like Will Smith has had to get that kind of power and control.
I enjoyed those films but he wasn't the lead as I asked in the question, he wasn't the focus of the marketing, he was the barely in it sidekick.
I believe the question asked was which films he was in, not the lead in. I'm sorry if I misunderstood.
I'm not, but there's going to be the "Fanboys" of the 80s (and 90s and 2000s) returning to see Indy on top of the families. Just like Transformers was filled with families all the Transformer Fanboys from the 80s bought tickets as well.
I guess these fanboys of the 80's you are talking about never get married and breed either. Because yeah, they never have kids, nieces, or nephews they want to take to these movies.
Okay take Shia out, which star convinces WB to go R?
Look at the track records. Either way the movie is a tough sell as an R. If they say its like I Am Legend (which was PG-13) the studio will still definitely not want an R.
Thanks for getting so pissed off, you made my day. Go get some anger management. C'mon we're just giving both our views. Try to be more optimistic. I see where you're coming from and I agree WB will probably go PG13. However I feel the material can sell itself, just like how most probably discovered the comic.
Comic audience is still different than the joe moviegoing audience. I'm just ticked like you are trying to lecture me about R-rated films making money, which is ridiculous because I know. These are NOT my views. I am simply giving you guys the Hollywood viewpoint for these types of things.
There already is evidence of R rated action films doing well in the past few years, especially with non A-listers but somehow Shia will be box office kryptonite and the premise/trailer won't be able to sell it to the masses like The Matrix Trilogy, Sin City, 300 or Watchmen.
The material is NOTHING like those movies. They aren't relevant comparisons. It's not a matter of simply naming off comic book or R-rated action movies that have made money with an R-rating. Just because they have doesn't mean the studio or the producers want to deliver this with an R-rating. Shia LeBouf's overall audience is the the same audience as Sin City, 300, or Watchmen. Also Watchmen is still a year away from being in theatres so I don't even know why you are talking about it. I see no trailer for Watchmen. I see no ultra-faithful, R-rated cut of Watchmen playing in theatres that sold to the masses.
Y, The Last Man isn't an action movie at all. It's a sci-fi comic book based movie, its a story that has some action in it, but at its core its a human drama.
Wouldn't there be a large turnout of women in their 20s and 30s watching an action film where females make up the majority of the cast and aren't all eye candy and bimbos or Lara Croft?
That's definitely a demographic to shoot for.
Plenty of females saw 300 and I'm sure Shia will gain some more female fans in the late teens early 20s with his next couple of roles.
Where does 300 and females enter into it? A lot of females seeing 300 doesn't mean they automatically will go see Y The Last Man. Also can you give me an exact count on how many females so that movie? I can guarantee you, the target audience for 300 was 18-34 yo males, and more females probably saw KNOCKED UP.
After Sin City/300/Watchmen market it as the next great graphic novel adaptation.
It's not that simple. Especially when Y The Last Man doesn't have the interesting style of Sin City or 300, not the name value of Frank Miller, and its a lot more realistic than any of those stories. You can't market Y The Last Man like Sin City or 300 at all.
You can't count the Watchmen egg before it hatches either.
Indy was made before the PG-13 was a rating. Temple of Doom has been given credit for inspiring the rating. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was ratedPG13
None of which have anything to do with studios allowing Y The Last Man to be rated R.
